The price for Luck

[Cbus cardsfan]

What do you think the price tag is going to be to trade up to #1 for Luck and what would you pay? I think the cost of the Bears getting Cutler was two number 1's and a number 2. If I'm the Cards, I give that to Carolina right now. Cutler was somewhat established so the price tag should be similar. It paid off for the Bears as ther are now enjoying their bye week in the playoffs. It paid off for the Giants with a SB with Eli.
If I'm the Cards I offer up this year's 1 and 2,next year's 1 and 3, and even a pick in the following year , 2nd? Carolina doesn't have a 2nd rounder this year so that would be enticing to add one by only moving down 4 spots where they could still get Bowers/ Quinn.
Luck is hands down the real deal. He's a better prospect than Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, any of those guys. There aren't too many oppurtunities to get a franchise QB like him. THe Cards need to make a move to get him. Once he declares, I'm on the phone an hour later to Carolina to make a deal.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

What do you think the price tag is going to be to trade up to #1 for Luck and what would you pay? I think the cost of the Bears getting Cutler was two number 1's and a number 2. If I'm the Cards, I give that to Carolina right now. Cutler was somewhat established so the price tag should be similar. It paid off for the Bears as ther are now enjoying their bye week in the playoffs. It paid off for the Giants with a SB with Eli.
If I'm the Cards I offer up this year's 1 and 2,next year's 1 and 3, and even a pick in the following year , 2nd? Carolina doesn't have a 2nd rounder this year so that would be enticing to add one by only moving down 4 spots where they could still get Bowers/ Quinn.
Luck is hands down the real deal. He's a better prospect than Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, any of those guys. There aren't too many oppurtunities to get a franchise QB like him. THe Cards need to make a move to get him. Once he declares, I'm on the phone an hour later to Carolina to make a deal.

I'd give 3 first rounders.... seriously.

 

[Mulli]

What do you think the price tag is going to be to trade up to #1 for Luck and what would you pay? I think the cost of the Bears getting Cutler was two number 1's and a number 2. If I'm the Cards, I give that to Carolina right now. Cutler was somewhat established so the price tag should be similar. It paid off for the Bears as ther are now enjoying their bye week in the playoffs. It paid off for the Giants with a SB with Eli.
If I'm the Cards I offer up this year's 1 and 2,next year's 1 and 3, and even a pick in the following year , 2nd? Carolina doesn't have a 2nd rounder this year so that would be enticing to add one by only moving down 4 spots where they could still get Bowers/ Quinn.
Luck is hands down the real deal. He's a better prospect than Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, any of those guys. There aren't too many oppurtunities to get a franchise QB like him. THe Cards need to make a move to get him. Once he declares, I'm on the phone an hour later to Carolina to make a deal.

Orton was also in the deal. Throw in DA.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'd give 3 first rounders.... seriously.

I'd have no problem with it either.

 

[New Mexico]

The Donkeys are gonna offer Heaven and Earth.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The Donkeys are gonna offer Heaven and Earth.

Isn't that the same as just offering up Tebow ?

 

[Early]

Or select Ponder with the 1st pick....

Luck is going to be amazing, he is worth trading up. I think he is as good prospect as Ryan was. I wanted us to pick Ryan that year, trade up, although it made no sense to anyone why one should pick Ryan when you have Warner and Leinart. Well, not he would be worth everything. Sometimes you have to pick BPA and not the need. It will often become a need much sooner than you think.

I'm all over Luck and Ponder, they are great pro prospects.

 

[football karma]

the problem is that Carolina is a fairly rational organization

they just watched Bradford take the Rams from 1-15 to respectability in one season

Luck is the only guy who looks like he has a chance to do that this year

 

[Southpaw]

I figure their are only 2 1st round QBs if Luck comes out. Luck and Gabbert. Cards can get Gabbert at #5. I would give up the farm for Luck. Those college awards are a joke when it comes to transitioning to the NFL. There are very few worthy Offensive players at the top of this draft and Luck is clearly the #1 pick. If Carolina, stupidly , trades away the rights, they will get fat on multi picks.

If Newton does his running schtick in the MNC game , that will only deflate his stock. If he wants to be a 1st rounder, he has to come out throwing and do what Luck did in the Orange Bowl, and I don't see that happening. Mallet will be better off sticking around for his senior year, unless he performs miracles at the Sugar Bowl.

 

[Snakester]

Our entire draft this year would get Luck. Or our 1st and Fitz would get him. Or Two number ones and two number two's.

 

[DoTheDew]

Well, NYG traded Two 1sts (#4) a 2nd and a 5th to get Eli.
Atlanta traded their 1st (#5) and 2nd to get Vick.
Rams traded their 1st (#6), 3rd, 4th, and 7th to get Orlando Pace.

Based on that, I'd guess it would take something slightly greater than the Giants trade since we are picking one lower than they were.

In that light, your idea of tradnig our 1st, 2nd, next years 1st, and next years 3rd, is probably spot on. Of course, this all depends on whether or not rookie contracts are redone with the new CBA.

If they are, that #1 pick gains a ton of value, but it also likely means Carolina will have no incentive to trade it. If they aren't, then Carolina is much more likely to trade it, but will the Bidwills be willing to commit nearly $100 mill. + to Andrew Luck? That will be the price of the #1 pick this year. Bradford got $86 mill.($56 mill guaranteed). Stafford was $71 mlll and $42 mill guarenteed.

 

[Dr. Jones]

1st & 2nd, 4th, 6th this year.

2nd, & 3rd Next.

Could that work? I think we will be super crappy next year with the impending schedule. Our first pick will probably be top 3.

Honestly, I hope Luck stays. If the new CBA affect players this year and he can't get the huge money, he might as well wait. His family is already loaded.

 

[conraddobler]

Trade Fitz for him and a first.

That would work I think and it would be smart, except, we can't because we can't trade Fitz it's in his contract, drats.

 

[DoTheDew]

Thinking about this again, with Whiz recently saying that he was too lenient on vets who were here with the SB run rather than evaluate them based on their play this year, I could see us trading multiple picks this year to get Luck, then turning around and trading lot of these vets to gain picks like we did last year.

ADub seems like a nice way to pick up a 3rd or 4th round pick, who else might be trade-able? Fitz, obviously, if we think we can't re-sign him and he agrees to go to whomever we were trading him to. Could probably get a late first out of him. Who else might be on the trading block?

CC?
Levi?
Hayes?

 

[Mulli]

There is no way anyone ever gives up a 3rd or 4th for AW. Sorry.

 

[Russ Smith]

I can't decide if them firing Fox is good or bad for the Luck situation. On the one hand the new coach won't have drafted Clausen so he'll have no loyalty, on the other hand the new coach won't have coached Clausen yet so he might be fooled into thinking he's the QBOF and we can get a treasure trove by trading the right to pick Luck.

I think they're crazy if he enters the draft and they don't take him.

I also think it could be interesting, Luck hasn't said anything but it wouldn't shock me if he thinks like Elway did and might want to tell certain teams don't pick me I won't play for you? No idea if Carolina would be on such a list but he has a lot of options, he can go back to school etc. So he could really influence who picks him.

 

[football karma]

Trade Fitz for him and a first.

That would work I think and it would be smart, except, we can't because we can't trade Fitz it's in his contract, drats.

he can be traded, he just has to agree to where he is going

Carolina and Jimmy Clausen? I dont see it.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

1st & 2nd, 4th, 6th this year.

2nd, & 3rd Next.

Could that work? I think we will be super crappy next year with the impending schedule. Our first pick will probably be top 3.

Honestly, I hope Luck stays. If the new CBA affect players this year and he can't get the huge money, he might as well wait. His family is already loaded.

Nah, you have to start with 2 1st round picks and go from there.....IMO.

I could easily see 1st and 2nd this year, 1st and 3rd next year.

 

[Southpaw]

There is no way anyone ever gives up a 3rd or 4th for AW. Sorry.

Saw him jogging across the field while the 9er was headed for the end zone. That is flat ass quitting. He's done. Probably wants to get cut and picked up by Pats, but Pats probably wouldn't want him.

 

[Mulli]

Saw him jogging across the field while the 9er was headed for the end zone. That is flat ass quitting. He's done. Probably wants to get cut and picked up by Pats, but Pats probably wouldn't want him.

Some players just don't care.

 

[Pariah]

The Donkeys are gonna offer Heaven and Earth.

I think Elway is a Tebow guy. At least, that's the talk here in Denver.

 

[Pariah]

I'd be willing to give just about whatever Carolina asks for to move up to get Luck...provided he comes out. (and if he doesn't, I wonder if he's as smart as people are giving him credit for. The desire to finish school is nice and all, but it doesn't make sense. This guy is never going to need that degree, and only bad things can happen to his draft status in the coming season--anything from sliding a few slots to blowing out an arm and not getting drafted at all).

 

[clif]

I've give it up like a 2 minute man! Oh wait.

 

[DoTheDew]

There is no way anyone ever gives up a 3rd or 4th for AW. Sorry.

For a guy in the pro bowl? I know he got torched in coverage quite a few times, but he's still a tackle machine and effective if used properly. It's not his fault Billy Davis doesn't know how to use his personnel.

 

[Mulli]

For a guy in the pro bowl? I know he got torched in coverage quite a few times, but he's still a tackle machine and effective if used properly. It's not his fault Billy Davis doesn't know how to use his personnel.

He is really not a tackle machine. And a defensive coordinator should be able to ask his SS to defend the pass. If he cannot, the SS is not a Pro Bowler.