This is what meaningless games look like

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No one is melting down just reality has hit.

We're not unbeatable and Seattle is very good.

We'll face them again in the playoffs if we win our first game. At least the NFC championship should be in our house as I think they'll beat Carolina at this point.

Either way nothing has changed we're in the playoffs as healthy as we can hope to be this time of year and we'll see but to think this didn't mean anything today is just not based in any kind of reality.

That's what losers say when they get their ass beat.

I hope the team realizes now that they have to show up from opening kick off on to have a chance because that's the truth in the playoffs anyway.

If anything this game may mean something positive for motivation so they don't learn this lesson game one of the playoffs.

Really can't stand the loser mentality that can't handle an epic beat down.

Pathetic and weak, take it like a man and learn from it for God's sake and stop whining like it's meaningless.

There is no such thing in the NFL.

+100. They should have just not played their starters if this was the kind of effort they were going to give. I can see losing like this on the road but SEA made a statement coming in here and laying a beat down.

Remember folks, SEA was without 3 of their star players in Lynch, Okung & Chancellor, they will be back for the playoffs and we will see SEA again if we make it past the second round.
 

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In his post game interview Okafor said that practice this week wasn't good. Arians confirmed that practice wasn't up to standard and it carried into the game. BA said too many players started to believe the press clippings that the Cardinals had already won the Super Bowl. He said that even though several veteran leaders were warning the young guys about it the effort wasn't where it needed to be this week.

I hope this is an eye opener for these young guys and that taste of losing makes them want to never experience it again. They get their mulligan this time around but there no longer are any more mulligans!
 

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I luv that this team is going to hear crap and forgotten about going into the playoffs. I really think guys like Bucannon and John Brown need to feel like they have not arrived at all. I want David Johnson to feel he has to work harder. I want JJ Nelson to work on his routes overtime. I want this team ticked off so they play to win and not play to not lose... whatever ego they had, needed to be squashed after winning so many games in a row :)


You are correct on all points JG , after 9 straight wins a dose of reality is likely a good thing . If the Cards had won this game 20 --- 17 they would have spent the next 2 weeks reading their press clippings about what an awesome team they are . This " WOOD-SHED " event should give them a sense of urgency !!!
 

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his post STARTED by saying people need to "####ing leave now!" and then bookended it by saying anyone who wants to moan should LEAVE NOW! if you didn't agree with it, you shouldn't have called an entire post ripping our fans and telling them to get lost "spot on".

as far as posting crap... only person who did that in this in this thread is the person telling board members to get lost... and the person who was wow'd by the post and called it "spot on".

Do you understand the meaning of the word hyperbole?

Don't blame the follow on, if you didn't like it blame me.

1st off you don't know how to read.

I didn't start that way, I finished that way.

The point of the Babe Ruth story was that he didn't want to waste his time with people with whom he could not get anywhere.

And those who I said to leave now, were those who were bandwagon jumper who were ready to toss the team aside because of this game.

If you place yourself in that category then we don't have time to waste with your posts because we have a Super Bowl to get prepared for.

Do you think because you've posted 40,000 times your negative attitude carries some weight? If you think my post was crap so be it. I don't know who you think you are but you're no different then anyone else who posts here except you seem to have a lot more time on your hands then others of us do. Your silly response is valueless.
 
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The only guy who showed up to play today was Fitz, that's it! No bueno...

DJ Swearinger for sure showed up. But I think he might be legit crazy, so he's going to show up for anything and lay some wood. That could be a quinceanera and he'd knock over the girl to lay a hit on the pinata.
 

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Do you understand the meaning of the word hyperbole?

Don't blame the follow on, if you didn't like it blame me.

1st off you don't know how to read.

I didn't start that way, I finished that way.

The point of the Babe Ruth story was that he didn't want to waste his time with people with whom he could not get anywhere.

And those who I said to leave now, were those who were bandwagon jumper who were ready to toss the team aside because of this game.

If you place yourself in that category then we don't have time to waste with your posts because we have a Super Bowl to get prepared for.

Do you think because you've posted 40,000 times your negative attitude carries some weight? If you think my post was crap so be it. I don't know who you think you are but you're no different then anyone else who posts here except you seem to have a lot more time on your hands then others of us do. Your silly response is valueless.

Keep on bashing posters instead of talking football. Kudos for making this a better place.
 

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BA said too many players started to believe the press clippings that the Cardinals had already won the Super Bowl. He said that even though several veteran leaders were warning the young guys about it the effort wasn't where it needed to be this week.
There it is there

Team needs to find a way to respond and build on this
 

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DJ Swearinger for sure showed up. But I think he might be legit crazy, so he's going to show up for anything and lay some wood. That could be a quinceanera and he'd knock over the girl to lay a hit on the pinata.

True... I love his energy!
 
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And to the question of "if it was meaningless, why play Carson for a half?"

Why do we play starters for 2 and a half quarters in the 3rd preseason game? To make sure they are ready, and are seeing reps against live defenses and not the practice defenses. It isn't important that they do well, just that they get live fire and don't get injured.

This was a preseason game. We schemed it like one. We approached it like one. We brought the intensity like one. We didn't want to get thumped, but it didn't really matter. We didn't blitz, and rushed 3 a lot. We didn't run any odd sets. No 5 wides. No JB coming around for fake handoffs, stuff we do in every game.

From early in the week the question was "how long will the starters play." When else do you hear that refrain? That's right, in the third preseason game.

When you prepare to play a preseason game, don't be surprised that you perform like you are playing a preseason game. BA alluded to the way they practiced that echoes this entirely.

Clearly, the Seahawks did NOT treat this like preseason. Big whoop.
 

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And to the question of "if it was meaningless, why play Carson for a half?"

Why do we play starters for 2 and a half quarters in the 3rd preseason game? To make sure they are ready, and are seeing reps against live defenses and not the practice defenses. It isn't important that they do well, just that they get live fire and don't get injured.

This was a preseason game. We schemed it like one. We approached it like one. We brought the intensity like one. We didn't want to get thumped, but it didn't really matter. We didn't blitz, and rushed 3 a lot. We didn't run any odd sets. No 5 wides. No JB coming around for fake handoffs, stuff we do in every game.

From early in the week the question was "how long will the starters play." When else do you hear that refrain? That's right, in the third preseason game.

When you prepare to play a preseason game, don't be surprised that you perform like you are playing a preseason game. BA alluded to the way they practiced that echoes this entirely.

Clearly, the Seahawks did NOT treat this like preseason. Big whoop.

I really don't have much problem with a lot of the above... but the idea that the Seahawks prepared for this game like their life depended on it has been repeated over and over again without any mention of the fact that they rested a TON of players... both starting OT, Kam Chancellor, starting TE, and were down to their 3rd string RB. And do you think Pete went all out with his schemes/playcalling because I didn't see anything tricky or a multitude of blitzes on either side of the ball. I just saw another team that had nothing to play for kick the crap out of us and have fun doing it.
 
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I really don't have much problem with a lot of the above... but the idea that the Seahawks prepared for this game like their life depended on it has been repeated over and over again without any mention of the fact that they rested a TON of players... both starting OT, Kam Chancellor, starting TE, and were down to their 3rd string RB. And do you think Pete went all out with his schemes/playcalling because I didn't see anything tricky or a multitude of blitzes on either side of the ball. I just saw another team that had nothing to play for kick the crap out of us and have fun doing it.

I don't think they prepared like their life depended on it, more that we were the converse of that. At the end of the day, we wanted to win, but not at the cost of working for it. They just still had some skin in the game, and were really pissed about us beating them earlier in the season. They prepared and cared more than us, bottom line. They did throw out some odd formations and some schemes that I hadn't seen in our previous game against them, that uber-split 4 wr set was really odd (and failed) but I guarantee they have a wrinkle on that which will kill us.
 

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I really don't have much problem with a lot of the above... but the idea that the Seahawks prepared for this game like their life depended on it has been repeated over and over again without any mention of the fact that they rested a TON of players... both starting OT, Kam Chancellor, starting TE, and were down to their 3rd string RB. And do you think Pete went all out with his schemes/playcalling because I didn't see anything tricky or a multitude of blitzes on either side of the ball. I just saw another team that had nothing to play for kick the crap out of us and have fun doing it.
Seattle did have something to play for. First of all they still had a shot at a higher seed in the playoffs (so did the Cards so this was pretty much a wash).

Secondly they had just played like crap the week prior and wanted to make sure they didn't let that happen 2 weeks in a row entering the playoffs.

Also They had already lost to the Cards in their own building this year and didn't want to go into the season having being swept in the regular season by us.

Lastly there was quite a bit of mention from players about how they were still bothered by their loss in the superbowl in our building and that was just a little extra for them to play for.
 

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Seattle did have something to play for. First of all they still had a shot at a higher seed in the playoffs (so did the Cards so this was pretty much a wash).

Secondly they had just played like crap the week prior and wanted to make sure they didn't let that happen 2 weeks in a row entering the playoffs.

Also They had already lost to the Cards in their own building this year and didn't want to go into the season having being swept in the regular season by us.

Lastly there was quite a bit of mention from players about how they were still bothered by their loss in the superbowl in our building and that was just a little extra for them to play for.

none of that really amounts to all that much, IMO. You could say the same things about the Cardinals not wanting the Hawks to kick their asses again in their own stadium. Not wanting to end the season on a terrible note heading into a bye, etc. etc. Reality is neither team had major motivation going into the game and Seattle just crushed us. What it means? We won't have an answer for that unless we play them again.
 

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none of that really amounts to all that much, IMO. You could say the same things about the Cardinals not wanting the Hawks to kick their asses again in their own stadium. Not wanting to end the season on a terrible note heading into a bye, etc. etc. Reality is neither team had major motivation going into the game and Seattle just crushed us. What it means? We won't have an answer for that unless we play them again.
I completely disagree with you on this. My 2nd and 3rd point to me are more than enough reason for Seattle to have a little more fire in them for this than we do. Also keep in mind that in the back of this teams mind they knew regardless how they played yesterday that they would have a full 2 weeks to prepare for their first playoff game and Seattle knew they didn't have that to fall back on. They played like crap last week and knew they needed to get it fixed immediately so that it wouldn't bleed over into their first round game.
 

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I completely disagree with you on this. My 2nd and 3rd point to me are more than enough reason for Seattle to have a little more fire in them for this than we do. Also keep in mind that in the back of this teams mind they knew regardless how they played yesterday that they would have a full 2 weeks to prepare for their first playoff game and Seattle knew they didn't have that to fall back on. They played like crap last week and knew they needed to get it fixed immediately so that it wouldn't bleed over into their first round game.

and yet they held out both starting OTs, their starting TE and their leader on defense, Kam Chancellor. Even if they had a little extra motivation, they were decimated with injuries and still put a shellacking on us... right from the get go when we still had a shot at the 1 seed.
 

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and yet they held out both starting OTs, their starting TE and their leader on defense, Kam Chancellor. Even if they had a little extra motivation, they were decimated with injuries and still put a shellacking on us... right from the get go when we still had a shot at the 1 seed.
I've seen you post this before and I don't really see the relevance. So seattle had some players out what does that have to do with which team was willing to fight more for the win? If anything being short manned gave them extra motivation because they knew they would have to pick up the slack for the players they were missing.
 

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I don't think anyone, especially the Cardinals, thought that was within the realm of reality.

I'll be honest, then that's pathetic and the fact that they blew off the entire week apparently pissed me off. That's just completely unprofessional. This team hasn't won jack squat yet and they think they're the **** of the walk and don't need to prepare in case something great falls in their laps? That sucks.
 

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I've seen you post this before and I don't really see the relevance. So seattle had some players out what does that have to do with which team was willing to fight more for the win? If anything being short manned gave them extra motivation because they knew they would have to pick up the slack for the players they were missing.

You don't see the relevance in a team holding out players because the game isn't that important to them? Wouldn't players who might have been able to play been in the game if it meant that much to them?
 
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I'll be honest, then that's pathetic and the fact that they blew off the entire week apparently pissed me off. That's just completely unprofessional. This team hasn't won jack squat yet and they think they're the **** of the walk and don't need to prepare in case something great falls in their laps? That sucks.

To be honest, my take is they felt the 2 seed is the better position overall. Seattle is the wild card in this playoffs and Carolina is also dangerous. The the best way to put Carolina and Seattle together is us as the 2 seed. Beating Seattle puts them at 6 seed and it works out, but if we somehow got the 1 we'd face Seattle first, then Carolina. Losing to them means we might have to face them in the first game but likely they still go elsewhere. Many other scenarios in play where they face off against Carolina, and we only end up facing one of them. And with GB a dumpster fire right now, I wasn't surprised to see Minny win.

Regardless of whether this was in the forefront of their mind, these kinds of thoughts were DEFINITELY in the back of their mind.

The Bucs had no motivation to try and beat Carolina. Going through the motions there. The NFL rescheduled it to try and get some heat on the Cards game, but at the end of the day, I think we had 2, we wanted 2 and really didn't care whether we won or lost the game. Seattle had more to play for, both mentally and in the playoff seedings.

Special teams was especially atrocious yesterday, and IMO that's where you see the lack of focus more clearly than anywhere else.
 

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