Time for the Cards to go QB shopping?
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az jam
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Agree that Luck is the best, he won't be there when the Cards pick. Locker & Mallett are risks. Trading for a qb next year may be a better option but not sure if anyone good will be available.
Diamondback Jay
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The ones I could see being available that MIGHT not be such bad options..
Ryan Fitzpatrick: Not exactly the "wow" guy everyone's looking for, but he's quietly putting together a very nice season with an otherwise putrid offense and hasn't exactly embarrassed himself as a starter.
Bruce Gradkowski: Has good leadership skills and the Raiders seemed to play well under him last year, and in spots this year. Problem with him is, he has perpetual injury issues, which raise a red flag. However when healthy, he would be a decent pickup.
Tyler Thigpen: He's got NFL starting experience, and is a respectable dual threat QB.
More in a few.
coach wizz likes retread steelers, so for a stopgap QB,.......Byron Leftwich?
trade deadline is past.
yeah,....I was thinking more for next season, and maybe a few years while we try to develop a draft pick.
Solar7
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Yeah, at the moment there's nothing much that can be done to bring in a guy in the short term, since the trade deadline has passed. Jeff Garcia could be had, but I don't know that he'd look any better for us either. Really, the only choice the state of Arizona has at the moment is to blockade Kurt Warner in his home until he agrees to come back and finish out the season.
But when it comes to drafting a guy, or finding a replacement for the future in FA, the pickings are kind of slim. I generally think that next offseason, our only hope to keep Fitz will come if we somehow get Andrew Luck, or immediately make a move for Donovan McNabb in free agency, barring a trade for Kevin Kolb.
It's basically a nightmare scenario. I have no clue what this team is going to do.
But when it comes to drafting a guy, or finding a replacement for the future in FA, the pickings are kind of slim. I generally think that next offseason, our only hope to keep Fitz will come if we somehow get Andrew Luck, or immediately make a move for Donovan McNabb in free agency, barring a trade for Kevin Kolb.
It's basically a nightmare scenario. I have no clue what this team is going to do.
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Yeah but you're assuming all football players are the same and he might not be. His dad played in the NFL, and overseas for years. He spent a lot of his childhood in Europe etc.
He may in fact turn pro who knows, but Luck is not a kid who's making his decisions from the same background as most college football players.
If he were my son I'd tell him to turn pro but he may very well play another year at Stanford and surprise everyone.
Diamondback Jay
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True. I assumed Leinart would go pro after his junior year, and Jake Locker would go pro last year. Both proved me wrong.
My thing is, Leinart and Locker both saw (or in Locker's case, is going to see) their draft value drop by going back to school, essentially costing themselves in the process.
I think if Luck gets a clear cut impression he's going to be the #1 overall pick, he'll go pro. It's a hunch, and he could prove me wrong though.
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Yep from the pure strike while the iron is hot, he SHOULD go pro. I expect Luck to be back at Stanford but you never know. If Harbaugh leaves that will change and Jim is very highly respected in the NFL so he could get an opportunity he can't pass up. I think Singletary gets fired and who better to take over a club built that way than a guy like Harbaugh who wants a tough physical team, but actually understands offense? That would be my nightmare scenario SF ends up hiring Harbaugh and drafting Luck.
I don't think Locker's value has really dropped, I think had he come out his stock would have fallen last year too. He's just not an accurate passer he's more of an athlete than a QB. He still could pan out he improved dramatically in his first year under Sarkisian, but he's too much project to go as high as he was projected.
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I still say the best Pro QB prospect in the country is Blaine Gabbert, has the bigger arm and is tall, mobile enough, plus reasonably accurate.
I hope he stays another year but I seriously doubt he will which means we could draft him, trouble is he's got no experience.
As far out as it might seem I'm on the Mike Vick bandwagon, trouble is I doubt we could get him very easy.
If not him then sign Mcnugget, I'll take one for the team and root for him.
I hope he stays another year but I seriously doubt he will which means we could draft him, trouble is he's got no experience.
As far out as it might seem I'm on the Mike Vick bandwagon, trouble is I doubt we could get him very easy.
If not him then sign Mcnugget, I'll take one for the team and root for him.
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Does anyone know of a way to rate a college or professional QB's moxie?
I say we sign the QB with the most moxie.
I say we sign the QB with the most moxie.
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Do you trust our HC's ability to judge Qb talent? I know I don't after the crap he's left us with and cutting the best QB we had on the roster!
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Locker's value has taken a hit, but he'll show up at the combine and at least a certain percentage of teams will be all about it.
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Brad Smith was a College QB and Jets use him in wildcat. He is the guy to trade for. Run a spread offense with lots of running and short passes. Smith could be no worse than the crap the team plays at the position now. I think you could pick someone form the crowd on game day and do no worse. Just tell them no fumbles and no interceptions. Handoff or kneel down.
I once thought Orton was a loser but after watching him play more closely he is sure better than anything we have. There are so many injured QBs in the NFL finding one that someone will give up would be very difficult and cost a very high price. At this late date we are what we are. Any QB we can obtain now should be one we can live with next year. This year is most likely gone as far as playoffs go. I cannot see us winning much more than 5-6 games this year unless one of our two QBs come to life from the dead zone.
Whiz is not the GM who is the guy who puts the team together. Look to Graves for the position we are in as it his responsibility. Whiz is the Head Coach and may make suggestions to Graves but Graves slides on by apparently unseen. He is the guy behind the curtain pulling the levers and no one knows who or what he is.
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Matt leinart will be the #1 free agent qB available if the cow Girls don't snag him now, or any of the other 31 smart teams in the NFL.
And John H look at Whiz's new contract, Whiz has GM type HC powers. Its very obvious, and Graves has never been a strong team supervisor. He's a Bidwill contract man, that aint had much success as of late, with drafted Cards talent.
They all run like their hair is on fire or get top positional money they can't get elsewhere.
FA QB 2010
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?
We have the 8th rank rookie in Skelton, 4 star rated sitting on the bench. of coyurse UFA Hall Maximus is so much better in important peoples eyes, not mine.
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&pid=10
And John H look at Whiz's new contract, Whiz has GM type HC powers. Its very obvious, and Graves has never been a strong team supervisor. He's a Bidwill contract man, that aint had much success as of late, with drafted Cards talent.
They all run like their hair is on fire or get top positional money they can't get elsewhere.
FA QB 2010
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?
We have the 8th rank rookie in Skelton, 4 star rated sitting on the bench. of coyurse UFA Hall Maximus is so much better in important peoples eyes, not mine.
http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2010&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&pid=10
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Diamondback Jay
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Why would the Bears trade Cutler though?
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There is no way that Leinart will be the #1 free agent over McNabb and Vick. Each might be re-signed, but at present most teams would choose them over Leinart.
It is late in the season to try and save this season. If we look to sign a QB it should be one that could play for the next 2-3 years and help us contend. To get a guy like that would require us to give up some picks and or players. We might get a good QB in the draft but that still leaves us with a couple of years of training for this to work. Unless, it was one of the top two or there who might just be thrown in there. This has worked for some teams. Big Ben comes to mind. The St Louis QB looks promising even on a bad team. This year it appear it is Hall or Anderson. That is not very promising at this point in time but it is the reality. The mistake clearly goes back to the GM in not signing a decent QB in the off season and going into the season with what we have. Perhaps the GMs hands were tied by a lack of money available to him? We may never know but even us fans knew we had a problem before the season even started. I wonder if a reporter has ever posed this question to any of the Cardinal Coaches or management? I would surely like to hear there answer. How we have been made the favorite this Sunday is beyond me. Home field advantage doe not really help our QB play very much. Miracles happen every week in the NFL so maybe one will happen Sunday. I will be watching as always. I sure get tired of beating my self to death watching some of these game. Maybe i enjoy self punishment. Anyway I will still be cheering for the Cardinals and my Cubs. What a couple of teams to be stuck with. Real fans never change teams. They cannot as it is in there genes. All I am left with is the memory of Kurt Warner who I can now watch on Dancing With The Stars. How low can I sink?
That makes sense if it is a team that is going to finish last or next to last. Fitz is not going to sign with a team with no QB and we will lose him anyway. This deal would need to happen later in the season so we would have some idea of where our trading partner might finish. Sadly a team that might want him would be a good team in need of a receiver and who would finish high in the standing and low on the picks.
