Time to admit it: This is a terrible football team.

[crisper57]

They lost to the Cardinals at home! They're the very definition of a garbage team...

FTFY

 

[Cheesebeef]

Whateva dude... you're wrong... JAX is a garbage team... The Jets are a garbage team...
The Bucs are not...

And by the way - I am not at all trying make our win something it's not. It's a hard earned road victory over a team that, while talented, we should expect to beat.
But nope... they are definitely not a garbage team...

Jax is one of the worst teams of all time. But that Tampa team is still awful. They've lost 8 of their last nine games, have an awful offense that is completely hamstrung by a rookie 3rd rounder QB, an awful head coach, and a decent defense. All of which will likely land them with a 3-13 record and will probably get their Head Coach fired. That's an awful team.

 

[crisper57]

Jax is one of the worst teams of all time. But that Tampa team is still awful. They've lost 8 of their last nine games, have an awful offense that is completely hamstrung by a rookie 3rd rounder QB, an awful head coach, and a decent defense. All of which will likely land them with a 3-13 record and will probably get their Head Coach fired. That's an awful team.

They are the Max Hall Cardinals.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Jax is one of the worst teams of all time. But that Tampa team is still awful. They've lost 8 of their last nine games, have an awful offense that is completely hamstrung by a rookie 3rd rounder QB, an awful head coach, and a decent defense. All of which will likely land them with a 3-13 record and will probably get their Head Coach fired. That's an awful team.

They have a rookie at the QB position. And Schiano is a arse-hole... Glennon is talented and I really wouldn't be surprised if he eventually develops into a better than average NFL QB. Time will tell...
Uggghhhh... can't believe I in a conversation where I am propping up a team we just beat.

Bottom line is that this was a hard-earned, credible win for this team. The Bucs are not a garbage team. We always play crappy in early east coast games. Unless it's the Jags or the Jets, you won't catch me talking down an opponent we just beat as, in the NFL, all players get paid to play... Hell, if we won 9 more games in that fashion, I'd take it...

 

[Cheesebeef]

They have a rookie at the QB position. And Schiano is a arse-hole... Glennon is talented and I really wouldn't be surprised if he eventually develops into a better than average NFL QB. Time will tell...
Uggghhhh... can't believe I in a conversation where I am propping up a team we just beat.

Bottom line is that this was a hard-earned, credible win for this team. The Bucs are not a garbage team. We always play crappy in early east coast games. Unless it's the Jags or the Jets, you won't catch me talking down an opponent we just beat as, in the NFL, all players get paid to play... Hell, if we won 9 more games in that fashion, I'd take it...

82...the Jets are a garbage team in your eyes...but the team who's 0-4 and LOST to the Jets aren't? I'm not saying its a garbage W. any W, on the road fot us is a W, period. but that doesn't change how awful Tampa is.

 

[82CardsGrad]

82...the Jets are a garbage team in your eyes...but the team who's 0-4 and LOST to the Jets aren't? I'm not saying its a garbage W. any W, on the road fot us is a W, period. but that doesn't change how awful Tampa is.

The Bucs won that game... up 17-15 with 10 secs left and Davis, their LB hits Geno out of bounds and gets flagged for a personal foul, allows the Jets the chance to kick a 50 yard FG to win the game.
Tampa is better than the Jets and is not a garbage team... And, I'm done defending them!

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Bucs won that game... up 17-15 with 10 secs left and Davis, their LB hits Geno out of bounds and gets flagged for a personal foul, allows the Jets the chance to kick a 50 yard FG to win the game.
Tampa is better than the Jets and is not a garbage team... And, I'm done defending them!

If the Bucs won that game, they woud have WON that game. Garbage teams make incredibly bad mistakes...just like they did against the Saints...just like they did against is. those kind of mistakes are the hallmark of a garbage team...Cardinals fans of all fans should know that.

 

[gamebird98]

Interesting comment from BA today, "The offense, Arians said, “was putrid.” Asked if this offense usually takes this amount of time, Arians shook his head. “I haven’t seen it take this long ever.”

I have to admit, he is much more upfront and vocal than any other coach I can ever remember. Except for maybe Buddy Ryan, but I'm not nearly ready to make that comparison.

Go Cards!!!

"THE SYSTEM WORKS"

 

[Duckjake]

It's amazing how people have selective memories. This board is no different today than it was 10 years ago.

 

[CardNots]

It's amazing how people have selective memories. This board is no different today than it was 10 years ago.

Certainly worse at times. During those times the birds really sucked and this board still called it like it saw it. Never been any different since I've been a member.

To address the thread 2-2 is a good start, too many drive killing mistakes. All correctable.

 

[Chopper0080]

Jax is one of the worst teams of all time. But that Tampa team is still awful. They've lost 8 of their last nine games, have an awful offense that is completely hamstrung by a rookie 3rd rounder QB, an awful head coach, and a decent defense. All of which will likely land them with a 3-13 record and will probably get their Head Coach fired. That's an awful team.

Agreed.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If this game went down the same way and we beat the Patriots, the Broncos, or the Seahawks, we'd be singing their praises.

But they weren't playing a good team, or even a competent team. We struggled mightily against the Bucs. The freaking Bucs! And their rooking QB!

Winning on the road, especially on the East Coast, is tough. But we escaped losing to a garbage team by the skin of our teeth. What does that make us? Certainly not contenders.

That being said, I am thrilled to be 2-2 with a chance to still figure things out. I just wish it didn't feel like they were regressing before our eyes.

Bingo.

I can't imagine any fan base, except for jax, having a circle jerk after that game yesterday. I'm stoked with a W and a chance to 3-2 next weekend, but that game gave everyone A LOT to talk about, a lot of it negative.

Exactly. There is absolutely no excuse for how poor this team is on 3rd down. None. Even last year's pathetic offense was better.

 

[Chopper0080]

I used to love to read and post on this site because it was mostly really Cardinal Football fans! The last couple of years it has become so depressing to read the posts that I rarely even bother. Where are the upbeat fans who never jump off even when the ship is listing? We are only four games into the season and already most are predicting disaster! I find there are so many positives with some of the new players and I think we finally have a real coach! Too bad, I used to look to this site for fun and pride in our team but not anymore. I go back to when we met at half time at Sun Devil Stadium in 110 !!And when we went up to Flag for camp there was always just a few of us always there, including the father of this site Skorp, he would be very upset if he knew what this has become! RIP

Some fans demand a more competitive team and a more competent organization. A bunch of people all agreeing on how great things are when they aren't doesn't make a fun or interesting message board. Sorry you don't enjoy this forum as much as I do.

 

[40yearfan]

If this game went down the same way and we beat the Patriots, the Broncos, or the Seahawks, we'd be singing their praises.

But they weren't playing a good team, or even a competent team. We struggled mightily against the Bucs. The freaking Bucs! And their rooking QB!

Winning on the road, especially on the East Coast, is tough. But we escaped losing to a garbage team by the skin of our teeth. What does that make us? Certainly not contenders.

That being said, I am thrilled to be 2-2 with a chance to still figure things out. I just wish it didn't feel like they were regressing before our eyes.

A win is a win is a win. Playing one of the top teams close, but losing in the final moments might be a moral win, but it don't count in the standings. We have a better record than either the Steelers or Giants. We won't know the good or competent part till we reach the half-way mark.

And as the old saying goes, I'd rather be lucky than good.

 

[MrYeahBut]

A win is a win is a win. Playing one of the top teams close, but losing in the final moments might be a moral win, but it don't count in the standings. We have a better record than either the Steelers or Giants. We won't know the good or competent part till we reach the half-way mark.

And as the old saying goes, I'd rather be lucky than good.

You forgot!! We have a better record than the Bucs too.


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[40yearfan]

You forgot!! We have a better record than the Bucs too.


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And the Eagles, Redskins, Vikings and Packers. And we are tied with the Niners and Ravens. How many people would have believed that at the beginning of the season?

 

[chickenhead]

I don't think it's worth even discussing the #1 pick this early in the season. Or even the top 5. Last year there were 7 teams with a record of 5-11 or worse. Half the teams were under .500 and two more were only at .500. There are countless plays and bounces that affect the top of the first round. If we're lamenting a win in week four we might as well not watch at all.

The team isn't great, and it was an ugly win. But I was at a baseball game on Sunday, and still excited to see that final score flash up on my phone.

 

[SECTION 11]

It's amazing how people have selective memories. This board is no different today than it was 10 years ago.

This board is a bit different than it was ten years ago It used to be fun, regardless of our record.

 

[crisper57]

This board is a bit different than it was ten years ago It used to be fun, regardless of our record.

Then we got a taste of winning...

 

[SECTION 11]

Then we got a taste of winning...

That's not it. That was a blast.

 

[crisper57]

It was. And losing those good times made us all bitter. We were happy in our blissful ignorance!!!

 

[Cheesebeef]

I miss Lex and Tango.

 

[40yearfan]

This board is a bit different than it was ten years ago It used to be fun, regardless of our record.

+1

 

[crisper57]

This board is a bit different than it was ten years ago It used to be fun, regardless of our record.

We're like Gollum from Lord of the Rings. We used to be be happy, joking with our buddies and knowing nothing about the outside world (winning).

Then the Ring of Power came along (NFC Championship). We knew what true happiness was. Then, as quickly as it arrived, it was gone.

Now we wander Middle Earth (ASFN), driven mad by our obsession to regain our precious.

Or something like that.

 

[Shane]

This board is a bit different than it was ten years ago It used to be fun, regardless of our record.

Whats changed in your opinion? Seems like he same place to me. There was plenty of bitching go around since day one.