Time to trade Reynolds

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I'm no baseball math genius but it seems pretty obvious to me that the last guy you want to worry about is the one who leads the team in RBIs!

Last time I checked scoring more runs than the other team was still the most important stat.

As far as errors go I think Reynolds makes just about as many spectacular plays as he does errors. How do you measure that?

I bet if you check our .300 hitting Cojack has had just as many opportunities to drive in runs as Reynolds.

A quick look at some numbers shows:

Jackson: 85AB with RISP, .341, 40 RBI
Reynolds: 99AB with RISP, .303, 46 RBI
 

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When ducks are on the pond, we expect Reynolds to hit one into the Fatburger stand each time. Too often he whiffs and the big strikeouts have been equally as easy to remember. As far as fielding, he's all or nothing, it seems. His fielding percentage is .916, which is not very good. But some of the dandy plays he has made don't get extra weight in the equation, they just count as chances like all the rest of the plays. I'm not ready to get rid of him yet unless the right offer came along.
 
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And that's my question. I didn't demand a trade, I asked if we were to trade him what could we get for him. Packaged with someone else? What would be the "right" trade??
 

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But it has a kernel of truth to it -- he was pegged already, Carlos said it himself. We all know Melvin would have had to have a gun to his head to play Carlos every day. He got to Chicago and said that immediately their trainers took a totally different rehab approach to him, far more patient and even restrictive. The veterans on the team, he said, provided real role modelling about work ethic, and went out of their way to help young players in Spring Training -- which really surprised him. He knew he had to prove he belonged in the big leagues, but once there, at least he didn't have to dig himself out of a hole to do it.

The reality is, the Carlos Quentin we are watching from afar very possibly could never have happened in our system.

You'r right to an extent, because of Melvin. But I would have settled for what he could have been when healthy, here! Even Melvin would have had to come around.
 

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But it has a kernel of truth to it -- he was pegged already, Carlos said it himself. We all know Melvin would have had to have a gun to his head to play Carlos every day. He got to Chicago and said that immediately their trainers took a totally different rehab approach to him, far more patient and even restrictive. The veterans on the team, he said, provided real role modelling about work ethic, and went out of their way to help young players in Spring Training -- which really surprised him. He knew he had to prove he belonged in the big leagues, but once there, at least he didn't have to dig himself out of a hole to do it.

The reality is, the Carlos Quentin we are watching from afar very possibly could never have happened in our system.

While I appreciate the psychological argument from you more than anyone else, it is not convincing enough to me to justify the actions that were made regarding CQ. I don't see how this backs the statement that there was no room for him. EB should not have been extended. This is hardly up for debate at this point in hindsight (though maybe some will try to argue for it) and without EB, CQ would have had plenty of opportunities to show his true talent level just as CJ has been able to show his when finally given a chance to play everyday here. If we're told CQ thinks too much to make it in AZ and previously we were told CJ thinks too little to make it here then what are we left to choose from?
 

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I'm actually more convinced by his comments about the trainers, DWKB -- he said it was from day one a very different approach and regimen, and here he is -- healthy for the first time. He also said the coaches and veterans worked with him patiently but hard on his hitting stance and his attitude at the plate. Someone knew how to work with his head for a change.

While Melvin is a problem and would have had a constant negative effect on CQ regardless, I think our whole approach to young players may be a serious limitation to their maximum development.

The EB deal was a disaster, as many of us predicted at the time, and it is why CQ is gone -- but I remain unconvinced he would have been given what he apparently needed, at least to have this kind of breakout season so quickly.
 
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