to steeler fans on this board its time you heard the truth

[Steeler SChuck]

Would that be the Eagles Defense that the Steelers scored only 6 points against in week 3?

I think the subject at hand was discussing your defense, not our offense - but thanks for playing.

I don't understand how some people single out one or two games and extrapolate on such small populations as support for their opinions. It really doesn't support much when you consider the concept of outliers.

But hey - nobody ever accused me of being unrealistic.

 

[SteelersGirlTN7]

Would that be the Eagles Defense that the Steelers scored only 6 points against in week 3?

LOL.

Don't worry, we know that was our worst game of the year. I think our O-Line didn't realize the game started at 4:15 and were off eating Philly cheese steaks! Ha!

That was our 3rd game this year. Since then our O has gotten much better. Steelers are able to score when they need to, and Ben is at his best toward the end of the game.

Also, related to the 3rd quarter; as previously stated that has been our best quarter most of the year, but it got no better than the San Diego playoff game, when the SD offense had the ball for :17 and had 1 play for 0 yards!! Granted, some of that may have been due to a fluke bounce off a Chargers head, however, that shows we can sustain long drives (better than we may have done earlier in the season).

I am a diehard, bleed black and gold till I die Steelers girl, but I am not so homerish to think this will be a blowout. Last year's game was a win by the Cards BY 7 after 2 picks from Ben. Really that game means nothing this year, as things are different. However the point is, if we can avoid the turnovers and have a solid game (like we've been doing), there is no reason why the Steelers can't win this game.

 

[Gee!]

This is yet another example why Cards fans are viewed as bandwagoners not just by Steeler fans but in general.

Look - I'm all for yinz supporting your team, but this statement is absurd.

Huh??

 

[Gee!]

You dam steelers fans are annoying..

 

[gamebird98]

I think the subject at hand was discussing your defense, not our offense - but thanks for playing.

I don't understand how some people single out one or two games and extrapolate on such small populations as support for their opinions. It really doesn't support much when you consider the concept of outliers.

But hey - nobody ever accused me of being unrealistic.

No...the subject was that we havent played a shut down defense like your Steelers....just making a point that the Eagles are a little better than mediocre.

 

[Steeler SChuck]

You dam steelers fans are annoying..

Why?

Because we're realistic?

Nothing arrogant about being realistic, but I gotta be honest with ya - I see a lot of false expectations on this board and with Cards fans in general.

Doesn't mean yinz can't win the SB next week, but you're 7 point dogs for a reason.

 

[Steeler SChuck]

No...the subject was that we havent played a shut down defense like your Steelers....just making a point that the Eagles are a little better than mediocre.

So you do it by comparing our offense against their defense.

Brilliant.

I said it before, I don't think the Cards aren't going to put points up on the board. You're not going to score at will IMO and our offense is capable of scoring on your defense - by controlling the clock.

 

[Stout]

That's why the general consensus is that Cards fans have stars in their eyes and really don't know what their team is up against. Seahawks fans went through the same process 3 years ago.

Your team played well in the playoffs against a couple of mediocre defenses and almost lost it toward the end with the Eagles, but the point that gets conveniently ignored by most Cards fans is that, while their team played beyond their means in the playoffs - they haven't faced a total shut-down defense like the Steelers - and don't discard the fact that your defense ranks where it is because that's how they played throughout the season. A larger population of games to gauge the true measure of that D rather than just a small sample of a couple good games.

Bell curve thing.

And if you think we're not going to be able to run the ball against the Cards bland defense, I think you're in for one of many surprises. Parker's healthy, he hasn't been for a good part of the year. Your rush defense is middle of the pack. A reasonable person wouldn't expect anything other than a solid rushing game by the Steelers.

The bigger issue is can and will the Cards try to run the ball? Last place rushing offense going up against the 2nd best rushing D in the league, I don't see that happening and that makes your offense one dimensional.

I don't see a blowout either, but the Steelers are going to try to control the clock and if they're successful in doing so, and I don't have any doubts that they can't - then the game is almost in the bag.

Ah, chuck. So blinded by the glitz of Steeler Nation. Three times we've heard blowhards swarm around us, telling us how our team doesn't match up and we don't have what it takes, under a thin veneer of them protesting that they still feel we might have a chance. Ask the Falcons. Ask the Panthers. Ask the Eagles. Ask all the know-nothings who said the same things you do here, only in different weeks. Of course, you'll have to go to the golf course to ask them, because they aren't in the playoffs any more.

The regular season means NOTHING. In the postseason we've beaten two rushing juggernauts and didn't give them 100 yards TOTAL. So what, we're supposed to tremble before the mighty Steeler rushing attack? Yeah, no.

Hmm...we've played beyond our means in the playoffs? Yeah, that's what the Patsies keep crying...that the Giants played beyond their means in the playoffs.

Go on, Steeler blowhards. Keep thinking this one's in the bag. Let's not allow reason to step in, though. Gosh no, yinz guys can't do that LOL

 

[Steeler SChuck]

Speak english ya freak..

And if you think you guys are being realistic, then your too far gone to be helped..

Care to back that up with actual football discussion or are you just here to wave your pom poms and toss insults around?

 

[Stout]

Why?

Because we're realistic?

Nothing arrogant about being realistic, but I gotta be honest with ya - I see a lot of false expectations on this board and with Cards fans in general.

Doesn't mean yinz can't win the SB next week, but you're 7 point dogs for a reason.

LOL All you keep doing is make arguments about how you're so superior and the game's pretty much in the bag, and you try to portray that as realistic? I call that illogical.

Just ask this guy...all is well in Steeler nation...nothing can go wrong!

 

[freebyrd]

football is all about playing your best at the right time right now we are playing the best football in the league,

freebyrd

 

[Stout]

Care to back that up with actual football discussion or are you just here to wave your pom poms and toss insults around?

Chuck, if you keep using yinz you're going to be pounded on. Nobody outside of Western PA, save for Western PA transplants, know what the hell yinz means. You use that, expect confusion, dude.

As for actual football discussion? Well, since you aren't basing your arguments in reality (or at least the end logic of your arguments--that we basically have no chance), why should anyone say anything other than 'you aren't using reason'? I mean, that pretty well sums it up to me.

 

[Steeler SChuck]

Ah, chuck. So blinded by the glitz of Steeler Nation. Three times we've heard blowhards swarm around us, telling us how our team doesn't match up and we don't have what it takes, under a thin veneer of them protesting that they still feel we might have a chance. Ask the Falcons. Ask the Panthers. Ask the Eagles. Ask all the know-nothings who said the same things you do here, only in different weeks. Of course, you'll have to go to the golf course to ask them, because they aren't in the playoffs any more.

The regular season means NOTHING. In the postseason we've beaten two rushing juggernauts and didn't give them 100 yards TOTAL. So what, we're supposed to tremble before the mighty Steeler rushing attack? Yeah, no.

Hmm...we've played beyond our means in the playoffs? Yeah, that's what the Patsies keep crying...that the Giants played beyond their means in the playoffs.

Go on, Steeler blowhards. Keep thinking this one's in the bag. Let's not allow reason to step in, though. Gosh no, yinz guys can't do that LOL

So you think some magical switch gets turned on when the Cards make the playoffs and that their performance in the regular season means nothing?

Wow, that's a lot of koolaid.

And, if the Giants play that Pats team 9 more times last year - they win 1 out of 10 IMO. They got lucky like some teams get lucky. That's my opinion of course, but I'd think popular opinion would generally support that.

Still, I'm not predicting the Steelers WILL win, just supporting my opinion that they should win, all things considered - rather than just banter on about what the Cards did in a couple games.

Here's a concept - tell me WHY the Cards are going to beat the Steelers next week.

 

[gamebird98]

So you do it by comparing our offense against their defense.

Brilliant.

I said it before, I don't think the Cards aren't going to put points up on the board. You're not going to score at will IMO and our offense is capable of scoring on your defense - by controlling the clock.

based on what information?

 

[Steeler SChuck]

Chuck, if you keep using yinz you're going to be pounded on. Nobody outside of Western PA, save for Western PA transplants, know what the hell yinz means. You use that, expect confusion, dude.

As for actual football discussion? Well, since you aren't basing your arguments in reality (or at least the end logic of your arguments--that we basically have no chance), why should anyone say anything other than 'you aren't using reason'? I mean, that pretty well sums it up to me.

That answers my question - yinz can't make a logical argument as to why the Cards can beat the Steelers next week so you live vicariously in your playoff wins and keep your fingers crossed and avoid the subject.

Hey - I don't blame ya. I guess as a Cards fan you have to play your only strengths.

 

[Steeler SChuck]

based on what information?

Here ya go - Teams we faced this year:

#3 rush defense x3
#4 rush defense
#6 rush defense
#8 rush defense
#9 rush defense
#11 rush defense
#12 rush defense
#13 rush defense
#15 rush defense

And we managed to use that "formula" and etch out 12 wins.

 

[Stout]

So you think some magical switch gets turned on when the Cards make the playoffs and that their performance in the regular season means nothing?

Wow, that's a lot of koolaid.

And, if the Giants play that Pats team 9 more times last year - they win 1 out of 10 IMO. They got lucky like some teams get lucky. That's my opinion of course, but I'd think popular opinion would generally support that.

Still, I'm not predicting the Steelers WILL win, just supporting my opinion that they should win, all things considered - rather than just banter on about what the Cards did in a couple games.
Here's a concept - tell me WHY the Cards are going to beat the Steelers next week.

So the Giants were lucky? Okay, funny. Then, you claim not to be a homer, but then take a homer stance. Okay, funny.

Why do I think we'll beat the Steelers? We have too many weapons for you to cover all of the time--three 1000 yd receivers--and our QB thrives on playing under pressure. Should make for a fun matchup against the top D.

The Steelers generally don't play well on offense when they can't run the ball. Look at how low your point totals are when you don't run well. You've run pretty well thus far in the playoffs, but then again, we've completely stoned the run in the playoffs. Should make for a fun matchup.

I think we're going to win because this is a hell of a good matchup, and I think we're being taken too lightly, and I think we have the mindset that we are going to bring the game to you guys. You keep harping on the irrelevant--how we played in the regular season. We were 7-3 and playing better than anyone in the league. Problem was, this team had not the mindset to handle success, and we started to tank once we had everything pretty well wrapped up. Well, to any kind of intelligent football fan, we've CLEARLY erased that mindset and have replaced it with one of determination and winning. So, yes, I think my team will win. I'm not as stupid as a lot of Steelers fans that think the game is in the bag, so I won't make that prediction. I just think we'll win, and I know the matchup is a pretty darn good one.

Much as I'd lovde to hang around and banter, I do have to run. I'll hopefully stop back in before work, but I'll be on after work for sure.

 

[Gee!]

That answers my question - yinz can't make a logical argument as to why the Cards can beat the Steelers next week so you live vicariously in your playoff wins and keep your fingers crossed and avoid the subject.

Hey - I don't blame ya. I guess as a Cards fan you have to play your only strengths.

Ya naw.. You guys aint cocky one bit.. Its all a fabrication the reputation you guys get.. Excuse me now.. I must take my lowley Cards faithful ass somewhere as to not disturb the righetous Steelers Nation.. Im guessing their board is pretty dead right now since theyre all over here preaching their greatness so I think I'll go over there..

 

[Stout]

That answers my question - yinz can't make a logical argument as to why the Cards can beat the Steelers next week so you live vicariously in your playoff wins and keep your fingers crossed and avoid the subject.

Hey - I don't blame ya. I guess as a Cards fan you have to play your only strengths.

Troll away. Try not being an arrogant prick and maybe people will receive you better.

Also, you're posting blind homerisms and expect other people to treat your arguments with respect. Nagannahappen.

 

[gamebird98]

Hmmm...so you are comparing your "O" to others "D".....I tried that, and you said .....So you do it by comparing our offense against their defense.

Brilliant.


sounds familiar

 

[conraddobler]

I've seen a lot of Yinz football being a Chiefs fan.

The Steeler mystique is a load of crap.

Yinz puts your pants on the same way everyone else does and yinz is gonna get yinz asses kicked.

Stuff it trollboy.

 

[Steeler SChuck]

So the Giants were lucky? Okay, funny. Then, you claim not to be a homer, but then take a homer stance. Okay, funny. Honestly, I'm not the only one with that opinion. A lot of people think the same, but it's really all moot. You might discover that if you peruse NFL topics other than those related to the Cards.

Why do I think we'll beat the Steelers? We have too many weapons for you to cover all of the time--three 1000 yd receivers--and our QB thrives on playing under pressure. Should make for a fun matchup against the top D. Finally, some football talk. I do like the matchup - your #2 ranked passing offense against the #1 ranked passing defense. Again, our controlling the ball on offense will be the key. I have a hunch our defense will find a way to stall your passing offense a couple plays.

The Steelers generally don't play well on offense when they can't run the ball. Look at how low your point totals are when you don't run well. You've run pretty well thus far in the playoffs, but then again, we've completely stoned the run in the playoffs. Should make for a fun matchup. Right, and as I said before - FWP was injured for much of the season earlier. Hell, we almost started pulling fans out of the stands for RB's at one point. But yet we managed to win 12 games against some real defenses. Your defense is mediocre and FWP's healthy. I don't see a problem here.

I think we're going to win because this is a hell of a good matchup, and I think we're being taken too lightly, and I think we have the mindset that we are going to bring the game to you guys. You keep harping on the irrelevant--how we played in the regular season. We were 7-3 and playing better than anyone in the league. Problem was, this team had not the mindset to handle success, and we started to tank once we had everything pretty well wrapped up. Well, to any kind of intelligent football fan, we've CLEARLY erased that mindset and have replaced it with one of determination and winning. So, yes, I think my team will win. I'm not as stupid as a lot of Steelers fans that think the game is in the bag, so I won't make that prediction. I just think we'll win, and I know the matchup is a pretty darn good one. You played in the NFC West - probably the worst division in the NFL and managed only 9 wins. Sorry but I don't think that's a great pedigree. I don't predict a Steeler win, but I along with a lot of others will be stunned if they lose. I don't have any reason to believe we will lose this game, but I am a resonable person.

Much as I'd lovde to hang around and banter, I do have to run. I'll hopefully stop back in before work, but I'll be on after work for sure.

Playing the "your just arrogant" card is a cop-out. It's not my fault that the matchups are heavily in favor of the Steelers. I'm just pointing out the reality of the matter.

 

[Steeler SChuck]

Hmmm...so you are comparing your "O" to others "D".....I tried that, and you said .....So you do it by comparing our offense against their defense.

Brilliant.


sounds familiar

Right - that's where the topic focus switched to based on your earlier reply.

I'm not sure why you're struggling with this communication thing, it's not a difficult concept.

 

[Duckjake]

Last year's game was a win by the Cards BY 7 after 2 picks from Ben. Really that game means nothing this year, as things are different. However the point is, if we can avoid the turnovers and have a solid game (like we've been doing), there is no reason why the Steelers can't win this game.

But things don't change during a 19 week season? Every year teams change during the season. To think otherwise is naive at best.

The Cards have a chance to win because they have a tremendous offense scoring over 30 points per game four straight weeks. Now normally you would say a great defense will stop a great offense but in this case the Cards have an advantage in that Whisenhunt and Grimm have practiced against that defense.

You also have the new NFL rules that have tipped the scale in favor of the passing game.

IMO this Superbowl is a match up of the unstoppable force versus the unmovable object and should be a great game.

However the biggest edge the Cards have is it won't be snowing in Tampa.

BTW: Anybody seen Eagle Mike?

 

[Steeler SChuck]

Troll away. Try not being an arrogant prick and maybe people will receive you better.

Also, you're posting blind homerisms and expect other people to treat your arguments with respect. Nagannahappen.

First, and I hate doing this but I haven't insulted anyone here. Prick? Classy. Just know that I'm not stooping to that level. Insults are for those who have no basis for debate or discussion, and I'm far from that point.

Second, arrogant? Like I said earlier - I have my opinions as to why the Steelers match-up better against the Cards. You have yours. Does that make you arrogant because your opinion vastly differs from mine? Kettle, meet pot.

Third - I'm not here to troll. I can dish out some real tolling if that what yinz want, but it's not what I'm looking to do. I'm here to discuss the game, but unfortunately - the responses I've gotten so far are insults and rhetoric.