Top 13 Mock 3/24/17

[JeffGollin]

A couple interesting tidbits from Wolf the other morning:

1) Cards FO & BA "really" like Mahomes. Not a smokescreen. They also like Trubisky, Watson, & Webb, just not as much as Mahomes.
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I still smell trade-down, but not necessarily involving the Cards. Maybe a bit farfetched, but here's how it might work:

Let's say the Cards are interested in a non-QB (like Foster, Howard or C Davis) but are worried that he'll be gone before #13. Their objective: Get an extra QB drafted in the top 12. Strategy: Talk up that they're interested in ALL top 4 QB's to encourage a late drafting team to leapfrog the Cards to take one of those QB's. Result: The chance for the Cards to hopefully grab the guy they want from the group that would presumably include Foster, Howard &' C Davis

 

[Jetstream Green]

I still smell trade-down, but not necessarily involving the Cards. Maybe a bit farfetched, but here's how it might work:

Let's say the Cards are interested in a non-QB (like Foster, Howard or C Davis) but are worried that he'll be gone before #13. Their objective: Get an extra QB drafted in the top 12. Strategy: Talk up that they're interested in ALL top 4 QB's to encourage a late drafting team to leapfrog the Cards to take one of those QB's. Result: The chance for the Cards to hopefully grab the guy they want from the group that would presumably include Foster, Howard &' C Davis

If the Cards hold true to their outward perception to the public and draft a QB at 13, I think it will be Mahomes or Watson but if they trade down... I think it is because they wanted Kizer all along and that is why they are staying away from him in the public eye

 

[cardncubfan]

It would be interesting to go back 2,3,4,5 years on this board and see how we all felt about QB's heading into those drafts. How many times did each of us get behind a QB like we are this year with Watson, Kizer, Mahomes, Webb, etc...only to be disappointed?

I can't evaluate an NFL QB and admit that I wanted Connor Cook last year (he still has time .

I wanted us to draft Dak & Jimmy G. Loved both of them at draft time. It's not every year there is a QB I like. This year it's Mahomes.

 

[JeffGollin]

I think drafting a QB at #13 all boils down to the following:

If BA really loves the dude, we take him.

Otherwise forget it - we wait & consider a plethora of options which might include using one of our subsequent picks on a QB, trading down for an extra pick and using it to draft a QB, packaging 2+ picks to trade back up for a QB or getting lucky & having the right guy fall into our laps.

The unknown in all this is knowing how BA really feels.

The three options that might conceivably excite me would involve D Watson at #13, Webb at #45 or later or Dobbs on Day 3. But none of these guys gives me goose-bumps the way Roethliberger, Eli, Luck or Bradford did when they came out. (Watson comes close, but that's the only one).

 

[Mitch]

Finished this and posted in on Footballsfuture.com:

1. CLE---Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M. They can see for Myles and Myles and Myles.

2. SF---Solomon Thomas, DE, Stanford. Waiting a year on Kurt Cousins. Will go Biblical and build a King sized pass rush first.

3. CHI---Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio St. They want this Hooker to make night and day calls on Aaron Rodgers.

4. JAX---Derek Barnett, Edge, Tennessee. Tom Coughlin building Barn-burning pass rush.

5. LAC (from TEN)---Jamal Adams, S, LSU. They wanted Hooker and trade up so as not to miss out on Adams. Costs them their 4th rounder and a six pack of Sam Adams.

6. NYJ---Mitchell Trubisky, QB, North Carolina. The Biscuit goes to Bowles.

7. TEN---Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford. Adds tremendous versatility and nuance to the fast-emerging offense under Marcus Mariotta. Mismatch McCaff.

8. CAR---John Ross, WR, Washington. Their instant upgrade over Ted Ginn, Jr. Faster than a 3AM Trump tweet.

9. CIN---Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama. A Reuben not on Rey.

10. BUF---Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio St. Stud to replace S. Gilmore

11. NO---Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama. Rebuilding the defense. BPA steal.

12. CLE---Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson. Elementary, my dear Hugh.

13. AZ---Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech. Mahomes is Alone on the top of Steve Keim's draft board.

14. IND---Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU. From Gore to Four.

15. PHI---Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama. Fits their style. Humphrey will Bogart the reps at RCB.

16. BAL---Charles Harris, Edge, Missouri. The Wizard of Ozzie strikes evermore.

17. WAS---Takkarist McKinley, Edge, UCLA. McKinley will Mount a resurgent pass rush in DC.

18. TEN---Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan. First McCaffrey, now Davis. Offense looking like a Mariotta Courtyard.

19. TB---O.J. Howard, Alabama. Winston lights up the scoreboard with Howard and company.

20. DEN---Garrett Bolles, T, Utah. Super fit in Bolles.

21. DET---Haason Reddick, LB, Temple. Can rush, chase and stuff.

22. MIA---David Njoku, Miami. RAC machine.

23. NYG---Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi. Eli to Evan---Rebel Rebel.

24. OAK---Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio St. Can play outside and inside on the slot.

25. HOU---Forrest Lamp, G, Western Kentucky. This Lamp is on, baby.

26. SEA---Ryan Ramcczyk, T, Wisconsin. This Badger Merits the pick.

27. KC---DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame. Reid the writing on the wall, Alex.

28. DAL---T.J. Watt, Edge, Wisconsin. The Watts now own the state of Texas.

29. GB---Taco Charlton, Edge, Michigan. Plenty of Cheese on this Taco.

30. PIT---**** Tabor, CB, Florida. Time to **** Brady.

31. ATL---Mike Williams, WR, Clemson. Can't believe he's there, but every year some big name players slides. Falcons snatch him up.

32. NO---Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU. The Butler didn't show up.

 

[NJCardFan]

So what you are saying is, you wouldn't draft any of the top QB's in this draft right?

Go back and re-read my posts and please tell me where I even insinuated that. I'll wait.

 

[Reign Blood]

I think I've officially jumped on the Mahomes bandwagon.

Cash me outside how bow dah?

 

[Hypothesis]

Go back and re-read my posts and please tell me where I even insinuated that. I'll wait.

Based on your line of thinking, you want to draft a QB from a school that has history of producing successful QBs. Well no QB in this draft comes from a school with any history of successful QBs. Clemson, NC and Texas tech have never produced a quality starter. Notre Dame, outside of Montana, has at least produced Beuerline who had a couple of years of moderate success.