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It was a garbage call and WHY was Byrnes sent back to second??? I have no clue why that happened...it defies logic. Byrnes was on third, it was a double play ball so he'd be on third regardless, yet they put him back on second? That's a double penalty. Take the bs call and give the double play, but Byrnes should have stayed on third.
Interference was the CORRECT call. Byrnes being sent back to 2nd was also the CORRECT call. Maybe the 40,000 should learn about the rules of the game before they make themselves look like fools on national television.

The people in the rest of the country aren't looking down at DBacks fans because of the bottle throwing. That was nothing compared to what Cleveland fans have done in the past. However, they laugh because the DBacks can't even sell out an NLCS game. That's embarrassing. It's like the West Coast Atlanta Braves.
 

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Interference was the CORRECT call. Byrnes being sent back to 2nd was also the CORRECT call. Maybe the 40,000 should learn about the rules of the game before they make themselves look like fools on national television..

tell me why sending Byrnes back was the CORRECT call. I don't worry about the interference call, which is a judgement that I can live with.

But tell me why, when in a double play when the runner on second WILL advance to third regardless of the outcome of the play, does he have to go back to second because of interference on the throw to FIRST. I can understand clearly out at first and second, but NOT the runner at third having to go back to second.

He was advancing REGARDLESS of the throw, as it did not go to third, but to first. Basically, because of the interference, runner advancement is negated on BOTH first and THIRD. That makes no sense.

Since you obviously know the ruling...tell me why.

And then tell me why it makes logical sense.

Because I simply don't get it. It seems like a bad rule, if correct.
 

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I'm calling the ones who threw stuff on the field classless. Unfortunately, the people across the country will now think the Arizona fans as a whole are classless.

It sounds weird, but I'd almost rather them think we're into the game enough to get pissed. I'd rather appear as a fan that is rude and throwing things onto the field than some no sack havin' "Well let's clap for the other team too, they gave a good effort" type of fan. Meh, probably just me though.

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Interference was the CORRECT call. Byrnes being sent back to 2nd was also the CORRECT call. Maybe the 40,000 should learn about the rules of the game before they make themselves look like fools on national television.

Not to be "that guy"... but it was Snyder that was sent back.... Brynes was in the dugout
 

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tell me why sending Byrnes back was the CORRECT call. I don't worry about the interference call, which is a judgement that I can live with.

But tell me why, when in a double play when the runner on second WILL advance to third regardless of the outcome of the play, does he have to go back to second because of interference on the throw to FIRST. I can understand clearly out at first and second, but NOT the runner at third having to go back to second.

He was advancing REGARDLESS of the throw, as it did not go to third, but to first. Basically, because of the interference, runner advancement is negated on BOTH first and THIRD. That makes no sense.

Since you obviously know the ruling...tell me why.

And then tell me why it makes logical sense.

Because I simply don't get it. It seems like a bad rule, if correct.

Agreed. Never in my life have I heard of such a thing, nor seen such a thing. Please explain...
 

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Interference was the CORRECT call. Byrnes being sent back to 2nd was also the CORRECT call. Maybe the 40,000 should learn about the rules of the game before they make themselves look like fools on national television.

I won't call fans out for being passionate but it appears it was the right call. Its a rule that is rarely used and I can't blame people for not understanding/being pissed off because of it. I've seen far worse let go and the rule not being used.

Rule 7.09 (e)
If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.


The people in the rest of the country aren't looking down at DBacks fans because of the bottle throwing. That was nothing compared to what Cleveland fans have done in the past. However, they laugh because the DBacks can't even sell out an NLCS game. That's embarrassing. It's like the West Coast Atlanta Braves.

This you are wrong about however.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/1012dbgamer.html

Some of the 48,142 fans who showed up at Chase Field - yes, it was a sellout - will want to forget about their own performance as well as their team's
 

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Rule 7.09 (e)
If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

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Then that is just a Stupid, STUPID rule. In fact, no bases WERE run because of action by that runner. The runner had already reached third...regardless of the infraction on second. Just an absolutely HORRID rule.

That's complete bullcrap. That needs to be reviewed by the rules committee.
 

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Im glad fans booed and were passionate, but throwing stuff on the field makes you a drunken yokel who probably ought to not be allowed out in public. I can't believe some of you are defending that as 'passion' and a good thing. I'll cheer my team and boo the other until my eyes bleed, but throwing stuff on the field? There's no reason for that. Furthermore, you're throwing junk in YOUR OWN STADIUM. What sense does that make? Thats like rioting in your own city after your team wins, why would you do that? Why wreck your home? I don't get it.

From what I've seen, the umps made the right call, though its understandable why the fans thought it wasn't. Some idiots threw crap on the field, which they shouldn't have done. Then Hurdle acted like a 6 year old by pulling his field off the team. None of them were in danger and he was just being a little attention ***** and trying to make some obtuse point, and just made the situation worse.
 

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The only way that game was a sellout was if the ticket office shreded 3-4k before the game.
 

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I was too far up in the cheep seats to throw my 1/2 full beer - I would have.
NO apologies to the country club set tha thinks throwing a few plastic water/beer bottles is a big deal.
The east coast media can bite my burrito.
 

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I was too far up in the cheep seats to throw my 1/2 full beer - I would have.
NO apologies to the country club set tha thinks throwing a few plastic water/beer bottles is a big deal.

I said the same thing. In fact, if you are going to litter the field, let it all fly.
 

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If this had been at Wrigley or in the Bronx no one would have blamed anyone except maybe the umpires.

At Wrigley, this sort of thing happens because it is Tuesday or whenever someone feels like seeing a beer bottle fly.
 

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If this had been at Wrigley or in the Bronx no one would have blamed anyone except maybe the umpires.

At Wrigley, this sort of thing happens because it is Tuesday or whenever someone feels like seeing a beer bottle fly.

lol, so I've heard.
 

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I was at the game. I enjoyed the bottle throwing. It actually woke me up from being half asleep watching the most boring sport in the world.
 

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Who cares what fans of other teams think about Dback fans.

They weren't watching anyway.
/signed all the crap ass so called experts out there who only care about baseball in New York or Boston.



Like someone stated earlier, it was only maybe 10-12 items that I saw actually make it on the field. Oh and it's not like NY fans or Philly fans that throws batteries and syringes at players have any room to talk.
 

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Was just watching MLB.tv, I heard Joe Buck(or whoever sounded like him, maybe the guy from the Braves) say "And this is a big shame for the fans of Arizona, they're known to be classy"

I still stand behind everything the fans did, even the bottle throwing, though it was lame that it prolonged the game.


Sorry to linger on this subject but it just bugs me. When we just shut up and take the other teams fans come into our stadium and take over (Like this years Red Sox v Dbacks) we're classy.
We get pissed at one call, start booing and throwing things on the field and immediately we're Raider fans. What about the game I was at August 26th against the Cubs, when I get made fun of and cussed at for cheering for the home team at the home game! But sit there and take it Phoenix, you guys have to be classy. Pfft, Classy is just what the other teams fans say after they're down taking over our stadiums.


Eh, sorry about the mini-rant. That is all.
 

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Chip Caray said something similar. Brenly immediately stuck up for the majority of the fans.
 

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I was at the game. I enjoyed the bottle throwing. It actually woke me up from being half asleep watching the most boring sport in the world.

Agreed, but apparently you've never seen soccer.
 

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The booing was great. I really can't believe how pissed people were. It was great to hear that emotion for a change. I haven't ever seen a DBacks crowd get so mad in my 10 years of watching games.

I don't agree with throwing crap on the field though. It just makes everyone look like a bunch of drunk hillbillies who can't control themselves. That's what pisses me off. Protest the call all you want, but don't be a ******.

Colorado fans are going to let Upton have it though. :lol:
 

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The booing was great. I really can't believe how pissed people were. It was great to hear that emotion for a change. I haven't ever seen a DBacks crowd get so mad in my 10 years of watching games.

I don't agree with throwing crap on the field though. It just makes everyone look like a bunch of drunk hillbillies who can't control themselves. That's what pisses me off. Protest the call all you want, but don't be a ******.

Colorado fans are going to let Upton have it though. :lol:

You're right, I'm really disappointed by people justifying the throwing crap, what a bunch of yokels. Remember what Charles Barkley said folks, 'we're civilized in Phoenix', lets try to act like it.
 

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No, there were blocks on seats open all night near the top of the upper deck along the first base line.
I wonder if people who had those crap seats, just cram into standing room spots closer to the field. Those seats up there are terrible, that is what I would do, and have done.
 

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We Were Wrong, But I'm Over It

I was at the game too. The throwing of water bottles began with one or two idiots in left field and then a bunch of ******** copycats got in on the act. I am glad we showed passion, but I would also hope we could show a little bit of brains.

People, if you are in the top of the upper deck, you probably don't have the arm to chuck a water bottle onto the field. More likely, you'll just rain down debris on the fans in the lower deck. That happened alot too. So I am of the opinion that these morons were classless and should have been ejected. They obviously had no respect for the game.

The call was a good one, though it was hard to tell at the time because it happened so fast and a replay was never shown in the stadium. I was always taught that a pop-up slide on an attempted double play was always interference. That is what happened. I booed my lungs out last night as well, but when I got hope and finally saw the replay, I realized the ump made the right call.

I am going again tonight and I truly fear what will happen if Colorado decides to retaliate against Upton. If they throw at him, the place just might explode. They are a class organization and have so far said that they thought it was a good hard baseball play. I hope they let it drop.

Eric Byrnes was on Bickley and MJ this morning. He said he had no problem with the fans' reaction, but he obviously didn't condone throwing items on the field. He said his problem was with the fans that decided to stay home.

On a fun note, last night I stood up and cheered during the late attempted rally. The lady behind me told me to sit down. I told her to "stand up, it is the playoffs you cow!" She decided to leave rather than stand up. If I had my choice, I'd rather AZ fans be known for the water bottles than for the passive losers like this woman. I wish we could just be loud and passionate, without being classless, however.
 

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I hope all you "wah wah way stay classy wah wah" types didn't hear Byrnes on MJ and Bickely about 20 minutes ago, because he basically flipped you all the bird.

He was fine with the fans...happy for the passion. "So they threw some junk on the field, so what?"

Bickley tried to bait him into berating the fans.."but you have to say it wasn't very classy."

"I don't care about them being classy...I'm happy to see the passion out there. You know what I'm mad about...not the fans there booing and throwing things, but the fans who didn't come to the game at all."

He had a lot more, and he CLEARLY didn't care if the fans are perceived as classy or not...but he did care that they showed passion and emotion and it fired him up.
 

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