Trade Bledsoe instead of Knight?

[Phrazbit]

If the Suns traded Bledsoe this year I could see it being another IT sort of trade where a lot of fans are ok or happy with it but in a year or two they'll call it one of the worst trades the Suns have ever made. We'd need to get a player with All-Star potential for him and I don't see any team being that excited to bring in a player like Bledsoe in return for a good to great prospect.

Its contenders who'd want Bledsoe, those teams are generally bereft of the kinds of stuff we'd want in return for him. IMO trading him makes very little sense right now.

 

[pokerface]

I've read all the responses and I agree. Bled can only be dealt if the deal is right and the other team has the assets we'd want...Which is a tough deal to get. It's true too that bled is still young enough to where we can mount a playoff push within a year or two and he'd still be in his prime. That's entirely possible.

Now having said that I'm going to have to push back a little... Bledsoe is playing out of his mind and so is Booker yet the Suns have the second worst team in the NBA as we speak. To me it still looks like we need a quantum leap of some kind for some kind of serious playoff push. Getting swept in the first round doesn't do it for me! All I'm saying is Bled is not one of the untouchables...His stock is high and it wouldn't be like the IT trade because his value was more obscure while Bledsoe is a proven commodity...He wouldn't be given away cheap.

 

[Bada0Bing]

Yeah, I would not be at all surprised if Cleveland made some similar such deal and desperately mortgaged the future for the present. Contenders do it all the time (cough, Nash Suns, cough). But I also wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland is still able to ride LeBron (and his ability to lure in other quality talent) for another 6+ seasons of 50-60 win basketball, in fact... I expect they will.

I would not be at all surprised if LeBron bailed on Cleveland rather than sticking it out another 6+ seasons. Especially if they can't beat the Warriors in the finals. If he does, Cleveland will nose dive fast and be stuck in salary hell for years.

 

[slinslin]

Even if Lebron does not carry Cleveland to 5-6 more seasons of winning the Eastern Conference they would still have Bledsoe, Irving, Love and Thompson.

Trading for a futurey Cavs pick is a waste, Bledsoe has to be worth more than such a vague return.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah, I would not be at all surprised if Cleveland made some similar such deal and desperately mortgaged the future for the present. Contenders do it all the time (cough, Nash Suns, cough). But I also wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland is still able to ride LeBron (and his ability to lure in other quality talent) for another 6+ seasons of 50-60 win basketball, in fact... I expect they will.

Another six years?!? He's 32! And I know he's still peak, but gazillionaires don't play that long. I would t be surprised if he hung them up in 3 or 4 years.

 

[sunsfan88]

Another six years?!? He's 32! And I know he's still peak, but gazillionaires don't play that long. I would t be surprised if he hung them up in 3 or 4 years.

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[Hoop Head]

Kobe is a fair comparison because they both made the leap from High School to the NBA but I don't see Lebron being ok with losing like Kobe was his last 3 seasons or so. He'll retire before he ends up being the only piece on a team. Another difference is Kobe was a bench player early on and Lebron was a starter from day 1. He definitely has more miles on him than Kobe did at similar stages of their careers.

 

[Mainstreet]

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You certainly brought up a couple who wanted to keep playing. Tom Brady is still on top of his game.

 

[pokerface]

We had no problem in the free agent market in recent years despite sucking, we even got in the conversation with some star talent.

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The fact is we aren't getting star talent in free agency because we have no All-stars to attract it.

 

[chickenhead]

If Bledoe were a few years older it would be a different story, but after all the weighing in I agree that you need more than a vague return. Otherwise you're mainly trading him out of fear.

If the Suns do well in the lottery, pick say Lonzo Ball, and are certain he's the PGOF, then maybe you have a chance to trade Bledsoe in the off-season to a team with a vested interest in the remainder of his contract and possibly an extension.

 

[Phrazbit]

Another six years?!? He's 32! And I know he's still peak, but gazillionaires don't play that long. I would t be surprised if he hung them up in 3 or 4 years.

I'd be shocked if he retired in 3 or 4 years. If Cleveland stinks in the near future I think it will be because LeBron jumped ship again, not because he hung em up. If LeBron retires before 39 or 40 it will only be because of injuries (and he has been crazy durable) or because he won like 3 or 4 titles in a row, which I don't see happening.

The sports biggest stars rarely go out before they have a steep decline.

 

[pokerface]

If the Suns do well in the lottery, pick say Lonzo Ball, and are certain he's the PGOF, then maybe you have a chance to trade Bledsoe in the off-season to a team with a vested interest in the remainder of his contract and possibly an extension.

Here is how I see it... Bledsoe has more trade value now than in the offseason. A team contending but more importantly a team looking to get in the playoffs may pay a premium to get Bled now. Then when they get him they have him for 2-1/2 seasons and a current playoff run instead of just 2 seasons. Plus trading Bledsoe now ensures a better tank job and a high pick. We can't take our potential #2 or #3 pick for granted because there is a lot of games left and the Lakers are hot on our heals. Anything can happen like when we smeared the bulls the other night. Bled can mess up our draft this year and next...then with our luck he gets broken down again!

 

[JCSunsfan]

Here is how I see it... Bledsoe has more trade value now than in the offseason. A team contending but more importantly a team looking to get in the playoffs may pay a premium to get Bled now. Then when they get him they have him for 2-1/2 seasons and a current playoff run instead of just 2 seasons. Plus trading Bledsoe now ensures a better tank job and a high pick. We can't take our potential #2 or #3 pick for granted because there is a lot of games left and the Lakers are hot on our heals. Anything can happen like when we smeared the bulls the other night. Bled can mess up our draft this year and next...then with our luck he gets broken down again!

The problem is that there is no contending team with assets they can give up for Bledsoe that will still allow them to contend. I am not worried about our draft this year. We will be #2 in the lottery seeding which is as good as we can get. Also, it looks like he is going to be rested a bit going down the stretch.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'd be shocked if he retired in 3 or 4 years. If Cleveland stinks in the near future I think it will be because LeBron jumped ship again, not because he hung em up. If LeBron retires before 39 or 40 it will only be because of injuries (and he has been crazy durable) or because he won like 3 or 4 titles in a row, which I don't see happening.

The sports biggest stars rarely go out before they have a steep decline.

This. He will be chasing all-time records in lots of categories. LeBron has a huge head (literally and figuratively) and he will not leave all that behind unless injuries force it (like Kobe).

I remember watch the vid of Kobe's achilles injury and knew at that moment that his career was basically over.

But I do not wish that on anyone--even LeBron.

 

[slinslin]

A better target for the Suns to trade Bledsoe would be teams like the Mavericks, Pelicans, Sixers, Magic, Knicks that don't have a PG and might not be in the top 4 position to get fultz, ball or smith.

I would be willing to move some combination of Bledsoe, Bender, Warren, Miami 2018 to get one of the top 3 small forward prospects along with picking one of the top 3 PGs with our own pick.

 

[JCSunsfan]

A better target for the Suns to trade Bledsoe would be teams like the Mavericks, Pelicans, Sixers, Magic, Knicks that don't have a PG and might not be in the top 4 position to get fultz, ball or smith.

I would be willing to move some combination of Bledsoe, Bender, Warren, Miami 2018 to get one of the top 3 small forward prospects along with picking one of the top 3 PGs with our own pick.

Yes. Teams that are full of young talent and that need a vet now to take the next step. I do think Bled seems to be turning the corner on his game. He might actually be even more valuable by summer.

 

[slinslin]

With Okafor about to be traded I just hope we do it for Knight.

I am not an Okafor fan but a diceroll on a young guy is the best we can hope to get for Knight. If Okafor works out we have less pressure to resign Len. If he does not we keep Len and have a center rotation that of Len and Okafor which should be ok at least for a long time.

Post scoring is definitely something we lack and while diminished in the current NBA I don't think it is completely worthless.

 

[pokerface]

The problem is that there is no contending team with assets they can give up for Bledsoe that will still allow them to contend.

That is being said by some you guys and I see the logic but I'm not buying it 100%. That is too many teams you are trying to classify... Especially since our main interest would be getting draft picks and a "up and coming" player in return for Bledsoe. That would not gut a teams chances to get in the playoffs...Or "contend". Plus there are a lot and lot of teams in the cusp of getting in the playoffs that have the assets to deal with and a strong desire to get Bled.

 

[Ronin]

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