Trade deadline 2023

[BritCard]

I figured it would be handy to have a thread for the deadline action and discuss any Cardinals we think might move.

I wonder if Zaven Collins will be moved. Its a crowded room at Edge and Zaven hasn't shown any rush ability. He's done well at contain and dropping into coverage and he's picked up sacks on stunts but I'm not convinced he's a scheme fit or Edge is his natural position.

They have to decide on his 5th year option in March, it seems unlikely and it might be best to let another team make that decision.

With 3.5 sacks and an INT to his name, and a cheap year with an option remaining his value may never be higher.

If the FO wants to thin out the room with a view to drafting/signing a top guy next year Zaven seems like the prime candidate.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I figured it would be handy to have a thread for the deadline action and discuss any Cardinals we think might move.

I wonder if Zaven Collins will be moved. Its a crowded room at Edge and Zaven hasn't shown any rush ability. He's done well at contain and dropping into coverage and he's picked up sacks on stunts but I'm not convinced he's a scheme fit or Edge is his natural position.

They have to decide on his 5th year option in March, it seems unlikely and it might be best to let another team make that decision.

With 3.5 sacks and an INT to his name, and a cheap year with an option remaining his value may never be higher.

If the FO wants to thin out the room with a view to drafting/signing a top guy next year Zaven seems like the prime candidate.

Eh he's a guy I'd hold onto because I don't think you get enough in return to equal his on field value. He's a solid player.

 

[TheCardFan]

One last conspiracy theory on KK...

Did the Cardinals take him off PUP list and practice him this week to show teams he was healthy before trade deadline?

 

[CardNots]

One last conspiracy theory on KK...

Did the Cardinals take him off PUP list and practice him this week to show teams he was healthy before trade deadline?

Ahhh, aptly named…

 

[TheCardFan]

One more trade thought...

IF Monti and JG know that Kyler is the franchise QB and we are not going to trade him this year/next year...

I would trade for Chase Young.

 

[Chopper0080]

One more trade thought...

IF Monti and JG know that Kyler is the franchise QB and we are not going to trade him this year/next year...

I would trade for Chase Young.

I would also inquire about Chase You g

 

[TheCardFan]

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[BritCard]

Eh he's a guy I'd hold onto because I don't think you get enough in return to equal his on field value. He's a solid player.

I don't see the long term value.

I don't think they take his 5th year, and it seems unlikely, baring a huge leap as a rusher, that they extend him beyond next year. I think the highest odds are on him hitting FA, thinking he's been used out of position and moving elsewhere.

I could see him doing well somewhere like the Lions as an offball OLB. Take a late 3rd/early 4th for him while you can.

And if the FO has their eye on a Latu or Turner next year someone needs to go and for me the most obvious is Collins for the reasons above.

 

[kerouac9]

Take a late 3rd/early 4th for him while you can.

I don’t think you get that for Collins. He’s an average-ish starting strong side edge with little pass rush juice.

I’m also not in a big hurry to see more Cam Thomas, Victor Dimukegje, and BJ Ojulari either.

 

[BritCard]

I don’t think you get that for Collins. He’s an average-ish starting strong side edge with little pass rush juice.

I’m also not in a big hurry to see more Cam Thomas, Victor Dimukegje, and BJ Ojulari either.

We need more Ojulari. Not giving him snaps in a dead year makes no sense.

Zaven Collins has a similar vibe to Jamie Collins. Similar testing, positional flexibility between off ball linebacker and edge rusher. Jamie Obvs played on a better team but he went for a 3rd at the deadline in his 4th year. And that was a very high 3rd.

I think a late 3rd or early 4th is achievable.

 

[cardncubfan]

I don't see why anyone would want to trade Collins. It would be another Reddick like mistake.

 

[Chopper0080]

My hope is the Cardinals make a move for one of the Washington DL players but I am not holding my breath.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

My hope is the Cardinals make a move for one of the Washington DL players but I am not holding my breath.

We could use one of them for sure

 

[Chopper0080]

We could use one of them for sure

Yes and the Cardinals are just so devoid of talent upfront. Use a mid round pick to grab one, give that player an extension, and then add more talent in FA and the draft next year. Don't see a reason you can't start now. It won't make a huge difference this year.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

My hope is the Cardinals make a move for one of the Washington DL players but I am not holding my breath.

I hope they go after Sweat.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I hope they go after Sweat.

Yes rumor is Atlanta offered a 3rd for him. Our third would most likely be higher than theirs. But along with that rumor they want a second.

 

[Arz101]

My hope is the Cardinals make a move for one of the Washington DL players but I am not holding my breath.

This is a near must thing. They need a strong DL next season.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Yes rumor is Atlanta offered a 3rd for him. Our third would most likely be higher than theirs. But along with that rumor they want a second.

Are you going to draft a DL next year with a 2nd, who's better than Sweat? Also,.Cards can sweeten the pot with another lower pick or 2, if they don't want to go higher than a 3rd.

 

[Phrazbit]

Both Sweat and Young are about to be free agents, no way we should trade for either.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Both Sweat and Young are about to be free agents, no way we should trade for either.

Sign and trade deal would have to be in place, unless you're willing to tag them.

 

[Phrazbit]

Sign and trade deal would have to be in place, unless you're willing to tag them.

Our season is in the tubes, the Commanders are not extending either one, it seems, so just go after them in free agency if you really want one of em.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Our season is in the tubes, the Commanders are not extending either one, it seems, so just go after them in free agency if you really want one of em.

But then you're competing with 30 other teams for their wares.
Basically it's an early start to free Agency.

 

[Evil Ash]

But then you're competing with 30 other teams for their wares.
Basically it's an early start to free Agency.

This close to FA its unlikely they would sign a long-term deal. Only advantage to trading for them is that you can tag them

 

[WisconsinCard]

This close to FA its unlikely they would sign a long-term deal. Only advantage to trading for them is that you can tag them

I get it and that is why they might be available for a third round pick.

 

[WindCardinal]

I don't see why anyone would want to trade Collins. It would be another Reddick like mistake.

Personally I wished they would have moved him back to ILB next to White and kept Sanders. Still baffles me that someone like Jesse Luketa was kept over someone like Sanders. Reddick was a bit unique as he dominated at edge (and still is now) but unfortunately we waited too long to try him there and the 5th year option was already declined.