Trade talk

[Jetstream Green]

I read an article today the betting lines on Kyler getting traded are +600 to the Bucs. I know we own his rights but players today have many ways of getting what they want if they really want out? I know he played with Mike Evans at T A & M but you think they didn't talk about the possibility of playing together again on the Bucs during the pro bowl? Brady is done & they need a QB. I'm sure several players tried to recruit him in which their teams need a QB. I'm sure in those recruitment talks their teams FO was discussed in comparison to ours. How would you think those discussions went coming from Kyler about our FO? This is pure speculation on my part but I really don't think I'm wrong. Let's face it, our OL isn't great, especially our guards, Kyler wants an OL that can protect him one can assume & Keim absolutely sucks at building one. Kyler knows this & more than likely doesn't see that changing & knows Keim ain't going anywhere anytime soon. The Bucs have a good OL so connect the dots. I may be reaching but maybe not? If we trade Kyler, then what? Thoughts?

No way in hell does Kyler match the 'throw the ball get hit exposed pocket' demanded of Arians and Arians' old school personality would totally shatter the current soft entitled stance of this young man where he would pick up his proverbial ball and go home... hence, this makes no sense except for the fact Bruce is a good coach but hardly a QB guru and those are facts towards drafting and developing his own

 

[Jetstream Green]

Yup, but he didn't Tom, Carson or Andrew.

Well, he actually did to Tom a few times

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

No way in hell does Kyler match the 'throw the ball get hit exposed pocket' demanded of Arians and Arians' old school personality would totally shatter the current soft entitled stance of this young man where he would pick up his proverbial ball and go home... hence, this makes no sense except for the fact Bruce is a good coach but hardly a QB guru and those are facts towards drafting and developing his own

You may be right. I was just saying that players talk & one would think Mike Evans was recruiting Kyler during the pro bowl. The decision to trade for Kyler would be up to management but obviously they need a QB in Tampa. What would Kyler look like behind a good OL? Tampa has one & we don't, the OL thing has to be weighing on his mind imo. Keim just doesn't know how to build one. That part is weird to me since Keim was an OL at NC. ST. Memory is escaping me right now but if I remember correctly, did BA want Keim to try & move up to draft Mahomes? Or was that after he retired? I really think Kylers height will always be a problem trying to throw over the middle unless he learns to step up in the pocket. That won't happen as long as KK is our coach. Drew Brees was only about 6' tall but he learned to step up in the pocket & throw from his tip toes which worked well, not to mention he had a way better play caller than we do in Sean Payton lol.

 

[Jetstream Green]

You may be right. I was just saying that players talk & one would think Mike Evans was recruiting Kyler during the pro bowl. The decision to trade for Kyler would be up to management but obviously they need a QB in Tampa. What would Kyler look like behind a good OL? Tampa has one & we don't, the OL thing has to be weighing on his mind imo. Keim just doesn't know how to build one. That part is weird to me since Keim was an OL at NC. ST. Memory is escaping me right now but if I remember correctly, did BA want Keim to try & move up to draft Mahomes? Or was that after he retired? I really think Kylers height will always be a problem trying to throw over the middle unless he learns to step up in the pocket. That won't happen as long as KK is our coach. Drew Brees was only about 6' tall but he learned to step up in the pocket & throw from his tip toes which worked well, not to mention he had a way better play caller than we do in Sean Payton lol.

I actually would call Kingsbury a good play caller and the fact we won 11 games and our records have improved says at least as a OC he qualifies for the NFL, game management and being a head coach is still up for debate haha... but if a young guy like Kyler who chances are does not know Evan personally is swayed by that meeting to do what he did, then we have, or anyone else. will have problems with this short but immensely talented young man, because a actual leader of men should not be that impressionable

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I actually would call Kingsbury a good play caller and the fact we won 11 games and our records have improved says at least as a OC he qualifies for the NFL, game management and being a head coach is still up for debate haha... but if a young guy like Kyler who chances are does not know Evan personally is swayed by that meeting to do what he did, then we have, or anyone else. will have problems with this short but immensely talented young man, because a actual leader of men should not be that impressionable

The short time Kyler was at TA&M he played with Mike Evans, they do know one another personally you would have to think.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

BA definitely does.

Exactly, even the great Tom Brady.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

He straight up threw Jameis under the bus when he was starting

That's what 5 TD passes 400 yards & 3 INT's will get you in any particular game lol.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Yup, but he didn't Tom, Carson or Andrew.

He did say the Brady needed to play better a couple of times if I remember correctly?

 

[slanidrac16]

Maybe we can get these “ all pro” draft picks to help Rosen or Bortles to lead us to victory.
Better yet after Brady goes to the 49ers we can trade for Garrapolo and renegotiate a cap friendly 10 year contract.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The short time Kyler was at TA&M he played with Mike Evans, they do know one another personally you would have to think.

Touche