Trey gets paid

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Absolutely. That is what you do, when you start over in a rebuild.

Not really. Deciding to only spend on bargain basement free agents and let your valuable free agents walk is a choice monti made. Not every gm operates that way.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Obviously “top 5 player in free agency” isn’t an objective metric. You’ll just disagree smugly.

Mike Iupati was a highly regarded free agent signing. Jared Veldheer also. As was Edge James. Both were wildly more accomplished than Josh Sweat.

Making the best choice from the McDonalds menu is I guess a thing to celebrate?

When dealing with subjectivism, don't we usually go by a consensus? Feel free to use all of the sites that rank free agents. Isn't that how we usually come to some sort of consensus in this type of question?

I was a big fan of all of the signings that you mentioned. They were highly rated and also subjective, but none of those signings happened in the same free agency period. Everything I mentioned did.

So again, looking at THIS offseason objectively, it's not hard to say that this has been one of the most successful free agency periods of all time. That is, unless you aren't being objective... no matter what their record was the previous 2 seasons...

 

[Stout]

Absolutely. That is what you do, when you start over in a rebuild.

Just answer the question I have asked several times. You have not answered. Your moronic stand is that you prefer Monti to NOT to have the flexibility to add more player in case he doesn't use it. Is this really your stance?


This makes absolutely no sense!!!

You are already concluding that Monty keeps his powder dry. And again. Just answer the question. Do you really want Monti to NOT have any powder? Monti constructed contracts the year to have more money to spend. He could easily have chosen not to do this and there would be zero money to spend, but now he has the option AND it has zero impact on the cap in the future because he can even that out by extending players.

Who would you like him to sign right now? 9 days before the draft. Who?

You are acting like it’s a conclusion that he is not using it.

I ask the same question AGAIN.
Would you prefer that he didn’t create the extra space?

I’m completely calm. And it's not a me problem, it's a you problem. Stop playing victim here...

I'm keep challenging you because of YOUR behavior. You are making up false narratives in order to criticize other posters. That is on you! Right now you are making up that I give Monti credit for trying, while there is probably 20 posts where I am saying the opposite.

You had a post out of nowhere "I see a lot of Bidwill apologists on this board". I haven't seen a single post defending Bidwill and not willing to call out his shortcomings as an owner. Yet, you just make something up like that to build a false narrative.

So as long as you show zero respet for other people's opinion and have to create false narratives in order to justify yourself, I'll comment.

AND PLEASE!

Just answer the question. Are you actually saying that you prefer Monti NOT to have created this extra capspace, giving him ZERO options to add more player or to trade for someone THIS season??

Yeah, you're full of ish, doing nothing more than call me a moron and making things up out of thin air. I'm not going to read your wrathful rant, let alone respond to it. Troll on. I should report the post, but I won't. If you want to embarrass yourself, fine by me.

 

[Stout]

Not really. Deciding to only spend on bargain basement free agents and let your valuable free agents walk is a choice monti made. Not every gm operates that way.

Truth.

 

[BACH]

Yeah, you're full of ish, doing nothing more than call me a moron and making things up out of thin air. I'm not going to read your wrathful rant, let alone respond to it. Troll on. I should report the post, but I won't. If you want to embarrass yourself, fine by me.

Oh. I figured about 10 posts ago that you were never going to answer, so didn’t expect that.

In your eagerness to point at anyone supporting Monti’s decision to create more flexibility you painted yourself in a corner of stupidity.

Please report me, if you believe I not following guidelines.

 

[Stout]

You kicked off this stupidity and cascading series of childish attacks on page 5 by quoting a post where I thanked you by telling me to calm down from my rant and that I was missing the point. Here is the "ranting" post where I was "missing the point" that you called out:


"Thank you for providing that distinction!

So the handful of board posters that protested we HAD to spend all our cap space were incorrect. Interesting. I'm not going to say Monti did a bad job by any stretch, but it is disappointing we haven't utilized our cap space."

You want to talk about stupidity and moronic posting, there you have it. I have no idea what has unhinged you. Are you okay? Are there external problems you're dealing with? I've been there. Heck, we've all been there. Seriously, hit me up by PM if you need to talk.

 

[Chopper0080]

You're ridiculous! Injuries happen in the NFL more than any sport. Snaps per game show how much paying time a player gets. They get when they actually suite up. When dressed, Williams plays the most of all the CBs. That is a fact.

Unfortunately you and K9 have never been wrong a day in your life, so you win! I give up!

Here is the thing. If you want me to be wrong, then you have to know what you are talking about. I did the research because you weren't willing to.

Over the 16 games that Garrett Williams played in 2024, here is where he landed in snaps for CBs each individual game.

CB1 - 4 of 16 games (two of those he was tied for top snaps)

CB2 - 4 of 16 games

CB3 - 8 of 16 games

So, even when you dive deeper into Garrett Williams snaps, there were twice as many games in 2024 where he received the third most CB snaps in those games as there were when he received the most. In those 8 games, the world beating mix of SMB, Starling Thomas, and Max Melton out-snapped him.

I hate making this argument because I think Garrett Williams is a good player, and was the most consistent CB on the Cardinals roster. That said, he was a role/sub player as often as he wasn't in 2024.

 

[BACH]

You kicked off this stupidity and cascading series of childish attacks on page 5 by quoting a post where I thanked you by telling me to calm down from my rant and that I was missing the point. Here is the "ranting" post where I was "missing the point" that you called out:


"Thank you for providing that distinction!

So the handful of board posters that protested we HAD to spend all our cap space were incorrect. Interesting. I'm not going to say Monti did a bad job by any stretch, but it is disappointing we haven't utilized our cap space."

The number of posters cannot mitigate for you failing to understand the correlation between cash spend and cap space. There is a cap spend. Guess what. Cap spend cannot without cash spend.

You want to talk about stupidity and moronic posting, there you have it. I have no idea what has unhinged you. Are you okay? Are there external problems you're dealing with? I've been there. Heck, we've all been there. Seriously, hit me up by PM if you need to talk.

Thanks! But doing great actually. But the offer goes the other way. I can even top it. The wife is a practicing phycologist. Prehaps you need her number. There must be a reason, why you have an urge to call out and name call everyone that disagrees with you.

Let's take it again. You are complaining that Monti isn't using cap space to sign players earlier, because that didn't help that year.

The players signed would pretty much have used all the cap space, which is exactly your criticism. Problem solved. You do not have to complain. Cap is spend this year.

But in a move where Monti designs contracts to create more cap space than the cash spend would logical take, you then also complain about that. So he creates more space THIS year in order to have the possibility to improve THIS year, but NO. You do not want that either. That is moronic, because it goes directly against what you have been complaining about for years.

Do you even realize that your thread about TJ Watt is not happening if Monti didn't create this space. Yet you still criticize him creating space. WTF!

 

[Stout]

The number of posters cannot mitigate for you failing to understand the correlation between cash spend and cap space. There is a cap spend. Guess what. Cap spend cannot without cash spend.



Thanks! But doing great actually. But the offer goes the other way. I can even top it. The wife is a practicing phycologist. Prehaps you need her number. There must be a reason, why you have an urge to call out and name call everyone that disagrees with you.

Let's take it again. You are complaining that Monti isn't using cap space to sign players earlier, because that didn't help that year.

The players signed would pretty much have used all the cap space, which is exactly your criticism. Problem solved. You do not have to complain. Cap is spend this year.

But in a move where Monti designs contracts to create more cap space than the cash spend would logical take, you then also complain about that. So he creates more space THIS year in order to have the possibility to improve THIS year, but NO. You do not want that either. That is moronic, because it goes directly against what you have been complaining about for years.

Do you even realize that your thread about TJ Watt is not happening if Monti didn't create this space. Yet you still criticize him creating space. WTF!

Yeah, again, you started blasting me for ranting on a post when I thanked you. On a post where I wasn't even complaining about Monti. Then it went downhill from there on your part. You can rant and rave all you want. I can let someone be unhinged on the internet

 

[BACH]

Yeah, again, you started blasting me for ranting on a post when I thanked you. On a post where I wasn't even complaining about Monti. Then it went downhill from there on your part. You can rant and rave all you want. I can let someone be unhinged on the internet

Yeah. You are the victim here

I started blasting you due to your need to create a narrative that people crediting Monti for trying

And you were so eager to point fingers at other pointers that you threw your own 2 year stand on Monti under the bus.

Interesting that you have no problem create false narritives in order to put label and name call other posters, but when I start attacking your view (and never you as a person), then you pull the victim card.

I have given you multiple counter discussion points to discuss. You decided not to answer any, feel sorry for yourself and attack me. You might need to do a self check on the unhinged.

 

[CardNots]

Yeah. You are the victim here

I started blasting you due to your need to create a narrative that people crediting Monti for trying

And you were so eager to point fingers at other pointers that you threw your own 2 year stand on Monti under the bus.

Interesting that you have no problem create false narritives in order to put label and name call other posters, but when I start attacking your view (and never you as a person), then you pull the victim card.

I have given you multiple counter discussion point to discuss. You decided not to answer any, feel sorry for yourself and attack me. You might need to do a self check on the unhinged.

This banter has clearly fallen off my care meter long ago but yet I take the time to respond

 

[BACH]

This banter has clearly fallen off my care meter long ago but yet I take the time to respond

I’m waiting for the response if Stout really prefers Monti would have used all the cap space. That is the stance he is taking

 

[Krangodnzr]

Here is the thing. If you want me to be wrong, then you have to know what you are talking about. I did the research because you weren't willing to.

Over the 16 games that Garrett Williams played in 2024, here is where he landed in snaps for CBs each individual game.

CB1 - 4 of 16 games (two of those he was tied for top snaps)

CB2 - 4 of 16 games

CB3 - 8 of 16 games

So, even when you dive deeper into Garrett Williams snaps, there were twice as many games in 2024 where he received the third most CB snaps in those games as there were when he received the most. In those 8 games, the world beating mix of SMB, Starling Thomas, and Max Melton out-snapped him.

I hate making this argument because I think Garrett Williams is a good player, and was the most consistent CB on the Cardinals roster. That said, he was a role/sub player as often as he wasn't in 2024.

Garrett should be on th field the most for sure. He's good enough that you take out CB#2 over taking him off the field.

He has given up a sub 80 (75.6) QB Rating for his career. To compare him to prior Cardinals CBs, Patrick Peterson gave up an 88.6 QB Rating. It's not exactly apples to apples, but it does demonstrate just how solid Garrett has been.

 

[Stout]

Yeah. You are the victim here

I started blasting you due to your need to create a narrative that people crediting Monti for trying

And you were so eager to point fingers at other pointers that you threw your own 2 year stand on Monti under the bus.

Interesting that you have no problem create false narritives in order to put label and name call other posters, but when I start attacking your view (and never you as a person), then you pull the victim card.

I have given you multiple counter discussion points to discuss. You decided not to answer any, feel sorry for yourself and attack me. You might need to do a self check on the unhinged.

Again, here is my "ranting and raving" post that prompted a need to "calm down:"

"Thank you for providing that distinction!

So the handful of board posters that protested we HAD to spend all our cap space were incorrect. Interesting. I'm not going to say Monti did a bad job by any stretch, but it is disappointing we haven't utilized our cap space."

Horrific stuff! I dared to thank you! What a monster I am.

Joke stuff, man. Just give it a rest, will ya? This is all just

 

[BigDavis75]

Garrett should be on th field the most for sure. He's good enough that you take out CB#2 over taking him off the field.

He has given up a sub 80 (75.6) QB Rating for his career. To compare him to prior Cardinals CBs, Patrick Peterson gave up an 88.6 QB Rating. It's not exactly apples to apples, but it does demonstrate just how solid Garrett has been.

I don’t think any of us has a good answer for why he isn’t playing 100 percent of snaps…maybe he’s a bad tackler? He’s clearly our best corner and I want to see him in the Kenny Moore role where he’s outside in base and moves inside when needed.

 

[Chopper0080]

Garrett should be on th field the most for sure. He's good enough that you take out CB#2 over taking him off the field.

He has given up a sub 80 (75.6) QB Rating for his career. To compare him to prior Cardinals CBs, Patrick Peterson gave up an 88.6 QB Rating. It's not exactly apples to apples, but it does demonstrate just how solid Garrett has been.

I think a lot of people feel he should be but he wasn't in 2024.

 

[Stout]

I think a lot of people feel he should be but he wasn't in 2024.

It's at least a good problem to have: Not enough playing time for a good player at a position of strength. I expect he will get more PT this season.