Tune it up

[cardpa]

Colt McCoy is 3-3 as a starter for the Arizona Cardinals. This is an extremely bad take.

Seriously, what does McCoy's past record as a starter have anything to do with today? Those were different teams with vastly different personnel.

 

[Harry]

This is where I'm at. I'm reading way too much about mechanical problems to get behind him as anything long term...yet.

So much of correcting mechanical QBs is the guy. I’ve seen some guys who got it right away. His correcting to pull up throws on rollouts was new verses last week.
I’m not the only guy who thinks Tune could surprise

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I apologize for the language

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The throwing motion is fine. I think the issue about footwork means that he gets on his front foot a little early. This forces him to whip the ball using mostly arm strength. Than can also cause the ball to sail. He just needs to start his arm closer to when he starts his step, not after he’s shifted his weight to his front foot. This will take work, but I’m confident he can get there with repititions.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Clayton Tune is a fifth-round pick from Houston who went 8-5 in the American Conference last season. He put up three points on the road against East Carolina nine months ago.

Oof

I like what I see, but this is reality

 

[BirdGangThing]

So much of correcting mechanical QBs is the guy. I’ve seen some guys who got it right away. His correcting to pull up throws on rollouts was new verses last week.
I’m not the only guy who thinks Tune could surprise

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The throwing motion is fine. I think the issue about footwork means that he gets on his front foot a little early. This forces him to whip the ball using mostly arm strength. Than can also cause the ball to sail. He just needs to start his arm closer to when he starts his step, not after he’s shifted his weight to his front foot. This will take work, but I’m confident he can get there with repititions.

I think the Chiefs saw Tune being successful and decided to bring pressure. Tune responded with a few good throws, late throws, high throws, late and high throws, and 35 yards rushing

His timing, and as you alluded to, his footwork will have to improve to NFL standards

 

[kerouac9]

Word, both himself and Gannon mentioned this directly after the game. But the only way to learn NFL game speed is by playing in NFL games

I'm sorry but every game Colt McCoy starts... I'm counting as a loss. I can't say the same for Tune tho, I think Tune gives us a better shot, as is

Seriously, what does McCoy's past record as a starter have anything to do with today? Those were different teams with vastly different personnel.

Because, as you can see above, BGT is already counting every McCoy start as a loss. Clayton Tune, the NINTH QUARTERBACK selected in the 2023 draft, is probably not more ready to win an NFL game than a guy who won an NFL game the day after Tune was facing Temple.

 

[TJ]

2 to 3 win team with Colt

2 to 3 win team with Tune

If you're looking at it from a "who wins more" perspective, just stop. This team is going to be hot garbage this season.

If you're looking at it from a "let's see what we have in the young buck with no expectations" perspective, then this team will be much more tolerable to watch.

I dont want to watch Colt McCoy ever again

 

[kerouac9]

2 to 3 win team with Colt

2 to 3 win team with Tune

If you're looking at it from a "who wins more" perspective, just stop. This team is going to be hot garbage this season.

If you're looking at it from a "let's see what we have in the young buck with no expectations" perspective, then this team will be much more tolerable to watch.

I dont want to watch Colt McCoy ever again

This is fair. I'm probably not going to watch any of these games.

 

[BirdGangThing]

2 to 3 win team with Colt

2 to 3 win team with Tune

If you're looking at it from a "who wins more" perspective, just stop. This team is going to be hot garbage this season.

If you're looking at it from a "let's see what we have in the young buck with no expectations" perspective, then this team will be much more tolerable to watch.

I dont want to watch Colt McCoy ever again

Damned if you Tune
Damned if you Colt

 

[BirdGangThing]

Because, as you can see above, BGT is already counting every McCoy start as a loss. Clayton Tune, the NINTH QUARTERBACK selected in the 2023 draft, is probably not more ready to win an NFL game than a guy who won an NFL game the day after Tune was facing Temple.

If this is the scenic route of saying I believe Tune gives us a better chance at winning games we will most likely lose anyways, then yes, I agree

And might I add Tune could even make the games watchable, because I'm with you on the 5 yards per reception being unstomuchable

 

[MadCardDisease]

He put up three points on the road against East Carolina nine months ago.

I watched a bit of that game. Tune had like 4 TDs and they killed the Pirates. E Carolina only had 3 points.

 

[slanidrac16]

If McCoy starts we are going to see 8-9 man fronts which will stifle our run game. More than a couple of hard hits and Tune will be our Qb.

 

[kerouac9]

If McCoy starts we are going to see 8-9 man fronts which will stifle our run game. More than a couple of hard hits and Tune will be our Qb.

If our WRs can't beat single coverage it won't matter who's starting at QB.

If no one believes that McCoy can stay healthy, what's the rush to put in Tune?

 

[juza76]

Watched all his snaps in week 1, he missed like 4/5 easy throws, accuracy seems a big concern

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I watched a bit of that game. Tune had like 4 TDs and they killed the Pirates. E Carolina only had 3 points.

Houston 42-3 East Carolina (Nov 19, 2022) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Houston Cougars vs. East Carolina Pirates NCAAF game, final score 42-3, from November 19, 2022 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[Ronin]

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[THESMEL]

How do you develop him the “correct way”?

Only way to develop someone is to play them when they have more potential than someone else.

Like Denny Greene treated Leinart not like Whisenhunt treated him. Bust his balis every 15 minutes to see how he responds. Build some confidence and success , I would say Aaron rodgers was developed right, Steve young, Eli manning. Earl Morrell.

this isn’t exactly a David Carr situation, but must balance and lean on the run game, not push him into hazard

 

[Garthshort]

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All Tune has to do in the above picture is to reverse field and all three defenders will run into each other and fall like bowling balls. Easy.

 

[BirdGangThing]

People kept talking about the talent gaps between the Chief's and Cardinal's second units - and I agree with most of it - and I think it only adds to the impressiveness

Think about it - Colt had 25 yards passing on 5 completions while Clayton threw to the Tune of 133 yards on only 12 completions

Gannon basically said on Monday that he hasn't announced who the starters for game 1 will be and that he won't until he does - to me his means there is indeed a quarterback competition taking place

I'm calling it now

Clayton Tune will be our starting quarterback on opening day

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Think about it - Colt had 25 yards passing on 5 completions while Clayton threw to the Tune of 133 yards on only 12 completions

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[BirdGangThing]

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I was trying to save it for game day but couldn't help myself

 

[BirdGangThing]

Not to mention the mobility

IDK if I'm comfortable with a QB leading the team in rushing but with Tune being a 5th round 6'3" 220 pound gamble - freakin' fuhgeddaboudit - it's a great way to alleviate the pressure and those crucial first downs keep the team hype

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I just realized there's one argument that might sway me to want Clayton Tune over Colt McCoy...I think if Tune starts, Murray comes back soon rather than later.

 

[slanidrac16]

If our WRs can't beat single coverage it won't matter who's starting at QB.

If no one believes that McCoy can stay healthy, what's the rush to put in Tune?

I think based on the fact that he’s not a sitting duck.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[Stout]

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Who the heck is this guy?