Tyrann Mathieu: "No way I'm taking a pay cut."

[RON_IN_OC]

Jurecki reported this, noted "he has a big ego"

Jurecki said he talked to a former Cardinal that is good friends with Tyrann. Friend said Tyrann isnt taking a pay cut and Tyrann believes he would do well in the open market.

Ah, so a 'friend' said it. Well, maybe he'll take a pay cut, if offered on a Wednesday.

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[overseascardfan]

He doesn't have to take a pay cut but if winning is important to him then realizing that money would go to getting guys that can help this team get back to the SB might convince him.

 

[football karma]

Ah, so a 'friend' said it. Well, maybe he'll take a pay cut, if offered on a Wednesday.

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Likely Rashad Johnson or Jerraud Powers.

 

[Chopper0080]

A couple things that jump out to me in this thread...

1-Yes, Mathieu is overpaid.
2-Yes, Mathieu is not the player he was prior to injuries.
3-Criticizing the technique or style of play of one of the most instinctual players in the NFL by fans is ignorant.
4-Mathieu has always been a player who takes pride in being a Cardinal. He has always been a hard worker. He is not a ME player.

I find it interesting when I see fans do this. They try to tear down and pick apart players when the business of the sport gets involved. Even today, Mathieu is a good NFL player whose body has let him down. He still works hard. He still fights for the organization. We gave him a contract based on the belief that his body would bounce back. It hasn't. Blame Keim for giving a player recovering from an injury a contract that puts the organization in this position. Don't blame the player who is doing everything he can but is hamstrung by a body that can't do what it used to.

 

[oaken1]

A couple things that jump out to me in this thread...

1-Yes, Mathieu is overpaid.
2-Yes, Mathieu is not the player he was prior to injuries.
3-Criticizing the technique or style of play of one of the most instinctual players in the NFL by fans is ignorant.
4-Mathieu has always been a player who takes pride in being a Cardinal. He has always been a hard worker. He is not a ME player.

I find it interesting when I see fans do this. They try to tear down and pick apart players when the business of the sport gets involved. Even today, Mathieu is a good NFL player whose body has let him down. He still works hard. He still fights for the organization. We gave him a contract based on the belief that his body would bounce back. It hasn't. Blame Keim for giving a player recovering from an injury a contract that puts the organization in this position. Don't blame the player who is doing everything he can but is hamstrung by a body that can't do what it used to.

Keim made a mistake...it happens...and I dont blame badger for signing the deal, I would have too.
But Keim needs to find a way to fix the mistake. or not I guess... not like there are tons of slot corners who can make a difference lined up at the door to replace the kid for vet minimum

 

[Covert Rain]

He’s a specialist
Not like Troy Palamlu

He’s instintive, and a good player

Problem is he’s a ton slower since his ACL’s

He’s not half the player Troy Polamalu was since the injuries. Did you ever see Troy play hurt? That guy still disrupted offenses when he wasn’t 100%.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

He’s not half the player Troy Polamalu was since the injuries. Did you ever see Troy play hurt? That guy still disrupted offenses when he wasn’t 100%.

Troy also had a great DC that put him in positions to succeed. Bettcher doesn't do that so much...

 

[Ronin]

Kyle Odegard‏@Kyle_Odegard 3m3 minutes ago
Tyrann Mathieu didn't just play all 16 games for the first time in his career. He logged 1,263 snaps, which was the most in the NFL. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts…

 

[JeffGollin]

We're getting ahead of ourselves.

We don't know who our HC and DC are.

We don't know what our defensive system is.

We don't know how team chemistry will unfold.

We don't know what TM's expected role in all this will be.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

We're getting ahead of ourselves.

We don't know who our HC and DC are.

We don't know what our defensive system is.

We don't know how team chemistry will unfold.

We don't know what TM's expected role in all this will be.

And some of us won't even be alive for next season. RIP

 

[football karma]

a good agent can be a team's best friend in this case

Badger has many good qualities, but he isnt a $14mm year player

I am not sure the free market would match that either: by comparison- Tony Jefferson, a guy with no injury history and coming off of a killer year has a deal with a $8.5mm annual avg cap hit ( $9mm in 2018)

i dont know if Badger is going to get another team to, lets say, give him a signing bonus + salary next year of more than $10mm

 

[nashman]

He’s a big name on the roster don’t think he’s going anywhere...

 

[Solar7]

He's my favorite player so I hope he doesn't go, but I'd prefer he renegotiates. Baker's play might make that a challenge.

 

[unseenaz]

i just... idk. it's a tough situation and i can see the perspective of both the team and the badger. he probably never should have gotten such a rich contract in the first place.

 

[DVontel]

i just... idk. it's a tough situation and i can see the perspective of both the team and the badger. he probably never should have gotten such a rich contract in the first place.

Yea. People shouldn’t be blaming Tyrann for taking the contract. They should be blaming Keim for offering him that contract.

 

[Harry]

A couple things that jump out to me in this thread...

1-Yes, Mathieu is overpaid.
2-Yes, Mathieu is not the player he was prior to injuries.
3-Criticizing the technique or style of play of one of the most instinctual players in the NFL by fans is ignorant.
4-Mathieu has always been a player who takes pride in being a Cardinal. He has always been a hard worker. He is not a ME player.

I find it interesting when I see fans do this. They try to tear down and pick apart players when the business of the sport gets involved. Even today, Mathieu is a good NFL player whose body has let him down. He still works hard. He still fights for the organization. We gave him a contract based on the belief that his body would bounce back. It hasn't. Blame Keim for giving a player recovering from an injury a contract that puts the organization in this position. Don't blame the player who is doing everything he can but is hamstrung by a body that can't do what it used to.

I don’t think most responders were picking him apart. Your points are mostly accurate but your missing the fact that TM still deludes himself that he’s the player he once was. So his I’m not taking a pay cut is unrealistic. If he wants to literally prove he’s the same player he used to be, ask him to take a contract with performance incentives that can pay him the number he is to get. I’m quite sure he’d pass. It’s always tragic when this happens to a player. Keim made a huge mistake. It’s time to pay the price.

 

[Snakester]

Regardless of who's to blame the Badger either takes a pay cut or he gets released. Mathieu can stick his chest out all he wants and say he's not taking a pay cut, but at the end of the day Steve Keim or another NFL team will dictate what he gets and it wont be 14 million a year.

 

[CardsFan88]

While it's not necessarily Honey Badger, there was this cryptic tweet by Jurecki

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[Town Drunk]

Cardinals CB Tyrann Mathieu will be guaranteed $19 million if he's on the roster at the start of the 2018 league year, March 14.

Mathieu would be guaranteed a $5 million roster bonus, his $5.75 million 2018 salary, and $8 million of his 2019 salary if that happens. Beat writer Kent Somers believes the Cardinals could ask Mathieu to take a pay cut or even release him if he refuses. Mathieu appeared in all 16 games this season for the first time in his career and played more snaps than any other player. Mathieu was Pro Football Focus' No. 44 corner out of 121 qualifiers in 2017, excelling as a pass rusher.


Source: Arizona Republic
Jan 3 - 3:43 PM

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Cardinals CB Tyrann Mathieu will be guaranteed $19 million if he's on the roster at the start of the 2018 league year, March 14.

Mathieu would be guaranteed a $5 million roster bonus, his $5.75 million 2018 salary, and $8 million of his 2019 salary if that happens. Beat writer Kent Somers believes the Cardinals could ask Mathieu to take a pay cut or even release him if he refuses. Mathieu appeared in all 16 games this season for the first time in his career and played more snaps than any other player. Mathieu was Pro Football Focus' No. 44 corner out of 121 qualifiers in 2017, excelling as a pass rusher.


Source: Arizona Republic
Jan 3 - 3:43 PM

No 44 corner...ouch.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Mathieu played most snaps in entire NFL...didn't know that.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...inals-tyrann-mathieu-decision-nfl/1001141001/

 

[unseenaz]

Mathieu played most snaps in entire NFL...didn't know that.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...inals-tyrann-mathieu-decision-nfl/1001141001/

heard that earlier on the radio. they were just begging for him to get hurt again

 

[Buckybird]

We should’ve tried to dump him for a chump change draft pick before the trade deadline

 

[BW52]

Send his overpaid overrated self packing and he can take his marshmallows soft buddy Peterson with him.Take both of them anywhere.Time to cull the roster and get eid of coasting high paid veterans

 

[dreday]

Mathieu was Pro Football Focus' No. 44 corner out of 121 qualifiers in 2017

TM is listed as the highest paid safety for 2018 per OTC. The 44th highest paid Safety for 2018 is Mike Adams for the Panthers and will get $2,425,000.

TM needs to renegotiate and Keim needs to do a better job on his contracts.