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Once again, the SUNS are always signing vets at the end of their careers with injury questions instead of in their primes, this franchise has a history of doing this....ijs
 

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I must have missed something. LOL.

Lol.. You know it is a bad day/week/month/year when Matt Leinart blocks you from anything.

If you go back and look at the old cards posts on this forum, Matt Leinart and my steadfast belief he was the QBOF represents the Scarlett Letter i wear for bad prognostication on a players ability. People who dont even know me that well make fun of me for it. Jesus I have a Matt Leinart USC jersey (I went to Arizona) and was hoping Kurt Warner would fall apart so Matt could save the day as late as the last game of the 2008 regular season. It was delusion at its finest.

So im bitter a bit. Must have made a off the cuff Leinart tweet at some point last 4 years and then realized this week when I wanted to RT something he said about Stanley Johnson that he had blocked me. I dont even know what for.

Kinda full circle though. Thats what you get for repping douchebags :)
 

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If you go back and look at the old cards posts on this forum, Matt Leinart and my steadfast belief he was the QBOF represents the Scarlett Letter i wear for bad prognostication on a players ability. People who dont even know me that well make fun of me for it. Jesus I have a Matt Leinart USC jersey (I went to Arizona) and was hoping Kurt Warner would fall apart so Matt could save the day as late as the last game of the 2008 regular season. It was delusion at its finest.

So im bitter a bit. Must have made a off the cuff Leinart tweet at some point last 4 years and then realized this week when I wanted to RT something he said about Stanley Johnson that he had blocked me. I dont even know what for.

Kinda full circle though. Thats what you get for repping douchebags :)

haha... Leinart blocking you was REAL? That's awesome Finest.
 

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If you go back and look at the old cards posts on this forum, Matt Leinart and my steadfast belief he was the QBOF represents the Scarlett Letter i wear for bad prognostication on a players ability. People who dont even know me that well make fun of me for it. Jesus I have a Matt Leinart USC jersey (I went to Arizona) and was hoping Kurt Warner would fall apart so Matt could save the day as late as the last game of the 2008 regular season. It was delusion at its finest.

So im bitter a bit. Must have made a off the cuff Leinart tweet at some point last 4 years and then realized this week when I wanted to RT something he said about Stanley Johnson that he had blocked me. I dont even know what for.

Kinda full circle though. Thats what you get for repping douchebags :)


LOL. One of my favorite forum stories....EVER.
 

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By the way I just visited Spurs talk and someone posted that they didn't think that the Suns were a serious choice because we have not shed the necessary contracts yet. They are desperate over there to discount our chances.
 

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By the way I just visited Spurs talk and someone posted that they didn't think that the Suns were a serious choice because we have not shed the necessary contracts yet. They are desperate over there to discount our chances.

I don't blame them. If Aldridge falls through, after dealing their starting C and with that aging roster, their run is pretty much over. There's not much left in the market that they can add with their cap room and is Duncan going to take another haircut contract for someone that ISN'T Aldridge? I doubt it. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Timmy retired at that point.
 

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I don't blame them. If Aldridge falls through, after dealing their starting C and with that aging roster, their run is pretty much over. There's not much left in the market that they can add with their cap room and is Duncan going to take another haircut contract for someone that ISN'T Aldridge? I doubt it. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Timmy retired at that point.

So much for that retirement notion... he's coming back regardless.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...t---i-ll-be-on-court-next-year-185713775.html
 

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By the way I just visited Spurs talk and someone posted that they didn't think that the Suns were a serious choice because we have not shed the necessary contracts yet. They are desperate over there to discount our chances.

They make Lakers fan look modest.
 

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Looks like Robin has a chance to cash in. He is only 27 and competent centers are hard to find. I wonder what Hibbert will get?
 

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The thing I'm not liking about the Tyson Chandler signing as Paul Coro reports, the Suns will have to do a trade with Dallas including either Markieff Morris or PJ Tucker if they sign Aldridge. I don't like helping an opponent.

The trade sent away $8.4 million of salary for next season without sacrificing much on the basketball side. Morris became a part-time starter with an affordable contract but his reputation took a hit with an ongoing felony assault case and an in-game quarrel with coach Jeff Hornacek. Combing the Morris twins improved each player but also created an empowering dynamic that became an issue.

Moving them bumped the Suns' salary cap space to more than $20 million, setting them up to do a maximum-level contact with Aldridge and execute a sign-and-trade deal for Chandler with Dallas. That is a tricky scenario considering Dallas would be assisting a Western Conference foe to improve by acquiring Aldridge. A sign-and-trade would likely have to include Markieff Morris and/or P.J. Tucker. Knight, as a restricted free agent, can be signed last and exceed the salary cap.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...rade-make-headway-lamarcus-aldridge/29656179/
 

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The thing I'm not liking about the Tyson Chandler signing as Paul Coro reports, the Suns will have to do a trade with Dallas including either Markieff Morris or PJ Tucker if they sign Aldridge. I don't like helping an opponent.





http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...rade-make-headway-lamarcus-aldridge/29656179/

there is no Aldridge without Chandler being here. I mean, come on... if someone told you we just traded the Morri Twins, Tucker, Bullock and Granger for Chandler and Aldridge you'd be doing cartwheels and backflips and we'd be talking about how that trade was highway robbery. I mean, that's in essence just trading the Morri/Tucker for Aldridge/Chandler. There's no downside to that.
 

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I was wondering what the rules are about back loading the contract to get this first year for Chandler in under the cap with Aldridge. It seems like it is pretty close and they have yet to renounce the rights to the free agents Wright and Green.

I know it can only increase so much each year.
 

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the Suns will have to do a trade with Dallas including either Markieff Morris or PJ Tucker if they sign Aldridge. I don't like helping an opponent.

If the Suns get Aldridge to go along with Chandler, they really shouldn't need to worry about Dallas. And Tucker, at least, will be subtraction by addition to any new team he goes to.
 

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I was wondering what the rules are about back loading the contract to get this first year for Chandler in under the cap with Aldridge. It seems like it is pretty close and they have yet to renounce the rights to the free agents Wright and Green.

4.5% per year (of the first year salary) for signing a UFA outright or for sign-and-trades.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q55

I thought Wright was already gone? Had reached terms with someone else, I mean?
 

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there is no Aldridge without Chandler being here. I mean, come on... if someone told you we just traded the Morri Twins, Tucker, Bullock and Granger for Chandler and Aldridge you'd be doing cartwheels and backflips and we'd be talking about how that trade was highway robbery. I mean, that's in essence just trading the Morri/Tucker for Aldridge/Chandler. There's no downside to that.

I understand the situation but I still do not like giving Dallas anything. It doesn't mean I wouldn't do it (because I would) but It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'd rather give them Tucker than Markieff.
 

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If the Suns get Aldridge to go along with Chandler, they really shouldn't need to worry about Dallas. And Tucker, at least, will be subtraction by addition to any new team he goes to.

I'm thinking Dallas will try to squeeze a pick out of the Suns as well. I'd do the deal but it doesn't mean I would like it. I definitely would prefer to keep Markieff over Tucker. If it doesn't work out the Suns can always trade Markieff later for value.
 

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Tucker and Aldridge are apparently pals, I expect they'll move Markieff.

I do think Keef is a good player and that contract is a steal but given what we know of him does anyone expect him to act professionally after we dumped his brother? Even if we lose out on Aldridge I think Keef being here next year is a 50/50 proposition at best.
 

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4.5% per year (of the first year salary) for signing a UFA outright or for sign-and-trades.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q55

I thought Wright was already gone? Had reached terms with someone else, I mean?
Yea, thank you, after I posted I went and looked it up. So based on the reported value of 52M Chandler would have to start at 12M or so.

From what I understand until Wright actually signs next week or the Suns renounce his rights he still has a cap hold.
 
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So based on the reported value of 52M Chandler would have to start at 12M or so.

I get $12.18M if the Suns wanted to start with the lowest possible first-year salary and rely on the maximum raises.

From what I understand until Wright actually signs next week or the Suns renounce his rights he still has a cap hold.

I think that's right, but if they know he's going somewhere else and don't need him to finagle a sign-and-trade, they can renounce him as soon as they need to.
 

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I also think Chandler might not play out the full contract and there has been no mention of it being guaranteed.

But if he is at the same fate as Lopez, we did OK.
 

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I also think Chandler might not play out the full contract and there has been no mention of it being guaranteed.

But if he is at the same fate as Lopez, we did OK.

In the NBA they're guaranteed by default. Until we hear otherwise I'd assume the whole thing is locked in.
 

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