Undrafted Rooks and After Draft Cuts

Ronin · Apr 30, 2018

The Cardinals will have to make roster room for 24 rookie free agents, provided they all pass physicals etc. 90 is the limit. team has 99 w/these additions

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GuernseyCard · Apr 30, 2018

ajcardfan said:
I know Pugh is not flashy as an OG. But, that was a major FA in my book. Guy played great with the Steelers. And we have long lacked a nasty, mauling G. Iupati was supposed to be that, but has been hurt too much.

Pugh = Giants

GimmedaBall · Apr 30, 2018

Some after the draft vet cuts are starting to come in:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...sactions-roundup-redskins-cut-terrell-mcclain

Time for some SK one-year wonder contracts.

Proximo · Apr 30, 2018

Andrew Vollert's vids look pretty good. Supposedly 4.54 40, 6-5 and had 1200 yds and 12 tds. I would say considering the cardinals considerable lack of TE's, he should have a good chance of sticking.

Buckeye Cardinal · May 1, 2018

CB Deatrick Nichols ran a 4.37 at USF pro day with 37 inch verts....smallish but looks like a keeper.

RugbyMuffin · May 1, 2018

GimmedaBall said:
Brain farts allowed after three days of following the draft . . . also allowed for just getting out of bed in the morning.

I've been waiting to comment on a new thread. Waiting to be the 10th poster so I can say 'There were 9 mistakes before me.'

Nice. Double Nice.

Ronin · May 1, 2018

Mike Jurecki‏Verified account@mikejurecki 2m2 minutes ago
#AZCardinals have 99 players on the roster and by next week. They’ll get down to their 90-man roster going into rookie minicamp next week.

GimmedaBall · May 1, 2018

RugbyMuffin said:
Nice. Double Nice.

Thanks. Double Thanks.

Proximo · May 2, 2018

This WR Jonah Trinnaman is quite interesting.

He ran a 4.3 and 4.31 40 at his pro day, 12 foot broad jump, and a 41 inch vertical all of which were better than any WR at the combine.

Apparently his coaches were considering moving him to CB so that may be the cards idea as well. He only had 53 catches for 626 yds at BYU.

BW52 · May 2, 2018

I like these guys to keep a eye on.

Frank Ginda ILB
Matt McCrane K
Deatrick Nichols CB
Brant Weiss OT
Austin Olsen OT
Alec James DE
Austin Ramesh FB
Matt Oplinger LB
Elijah Battle CB
Alec Bloom TE-could he be the blocking TE Cards need?

MadCardDisease · May 2, 2018

Top 20 UDFA that are in the best situation to make a roster:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ndrafted-rookies-in-most-favorable-situations

4) Deatrick Nichols, CB, Cardinals

College: South Florida
The skinny: An undersized but competitive corner, Nichols has a great chance to make the Cardinals, who need help at the position.

CardNots · May 12, 2018

Cardiac said:
You have no way of knowing if these late rd picks were taken too soon.

Grrr all you want but Tony Jefferson was a UDFA hit that SK got.

Jefferson’s talent was identified by many. He was a risk not a find at least from my perspective. SK took a risk and it paid off with a supplemental pick. I don’t consider his short tenature a hit.

Krangodnzr · May 12, 2018

CardNots said:
Jefferson’s talent was identified by many. He was a risk not a find at least from my perspective. SK took a risk and it paid off with a supplemental pick. I don’t consider his short tenature a hit.

Supplemental pick? He was UDFA.

Jefferson was an early round talent who left school early and didn't time well. Guys that are really hit or miss, it seems that they are too slow or they play fast and the 40 time doesn't matter.

The flip side of this situation is Scooby Wright who was an early round talent based on college film and he really was as slow as his timed speed. He's just not fast enough, nor quick enough to be an NFL player. Wright is one of those guys that teams are literally looking for replacements for every year because just know that if a starter goes down, Wright isn't good enough to play a lot snaps.

Another Cardinal that I can remember that fell because of timed speed who had a successful career, although most of it not with the Cardinals was Renaldo Hill. His college tape showed an NFL starter, but he ran like a 4.65 so he fell to the 7th round. He was a gamer though, and generally played pretty well for a slower player.

Cardiac · May 12, 2018

CardNots said:
Jefferson’s talent was identified by many. He was a risk not a find at least from my perspective. SK took a risk and it paid off with a supplemental pick. I don’t consider his short tenature a hit.

TJ was a starter for us on a D that was excellent. He got PAID in FA because he is very good at football so I'm not sure why you don't think he is a hit. Any UDFA that plays for you as a starter is a hit, then factor in he gets you a comp pick because he signed a big FA contract. That's creating a draft pick out of nothing IMO.

WisconsinCard · May 12, 2018

Krangthebrain said:
Supplemental pick? He was UDFA.

Jefferson was an early round talent who left school early and didn't time well. Guys that are really hit or miss, it seems that they are too slow or they play fast and the 40 time doesn't matter.

The flip side of this situation is Scooby Wright who was an early round talent based on college film and he really was as slow as his timed speed. He's just not fast enough, nor quick enough to be an NFL player. Wright is one of those guys that teams are literally looking for replacements for every year because just know that if a starter goes down, Wright isn't good enough to play a lot snaps.

Another Cardinal that I can remember that fell because of timed speed who had a successful career, although most of it not with the Cardinals was Renaldo Hill. His college tape showed an NFL starter, but he ran like a 4.65 so he fell to the 7th round. He was a gamer though, and generally played pretty well for a slower player.

I agree 100% and another thing to consider is that just because a player doesn't run well at the t-shirt Olympics doesn't mean they can't be fast enough in pads. Some can carry their pads well and don't lose any speed, and others when they put the pads on slow down considerably.

JeffGollin · May 13, 2018

CardNots said:
Jefferson’s talent was identified by many. He was a risk not a find at least from my perspective. SK took a risk and it paid off with a supplemental pick. I don’t consider his short tenature a hit.

Bottom line was that the guy made plays and executed his assignments well enough to be trusted by the coaches.

No matter what his 40 time or 3-Cone score was or what college program he came out of or why he was or wasn't an UDFA - he got the job done from the day he set foot on the practice field to when he took the field in real games.

I don't view TJ as much of a risk - each year the Cards bring in a bunch of rooks - some of them do better than expected...some disappoint...some are (for better or worse) as- advertised. TJ, when signed, was one of the good decisions. There will be others.

CardNots · May 13, 2018

Krangthebrain said:
Supplemental pick? He was UDFA.

Jefferson was an early round talent who left school early and didn't time well. Guys that are really hit or miss, it seems that they are too slow or they play fast and the 40 time doesn't matter.

The flip side of this situation is Scooby Wright who was an early round talent based on college film and he really was as slow as his timed speed. He's just not fast enough, nor quick enough to be an NFL player. Wright is one of those guys that teams are literally looking for replacements for every year because just know that if a starter goes down, Wright isn't good enough to play a lot snaps.

Another Cardinal that I can remember that fell because of timed speed who had a successful career, although most of it not with the Cardinals was Renaldo Hill. His college tape showed an NFL starter, but he ran like a 4.65 so he fell to the 7th round. He was a gamer though, and generally played pretty well for a slower player.

His free agency loss helped gain a supplemental pick for the cards.

Ronin · May 14, 2018

Cardinals' Jalen Tolliver: Signing contract with Arizona
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Tolliver has signed a contract with the Cardinals, Arizona Sports 98.7 FM reports.

Tolliver (6-foot-3, 210 pounds) went undrafted out of Arkansas-Monticello this spring, but he's nonetheless a high-upside addition who already possesses impressive ball skills and an NFL-ready frame. However, he could be in store for a rough transition to the pro level coming from a Division II school. Tolliver is likely competing with four other receivers for one potential roster spot in Arizona.

Ronin · May 14, 2018

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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jalen-tolliver?id=32462018-0002-5610-764e-d146d58691bd

CFLredzoned · May 14, 2018

Ronin said:
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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jalen-tolliver?id=32462018-0002-5610-764e-d146d58691bd

He has good insticts for high pointing the ball in traffic. I like that.

Ronin · May 14, 2018

In case you forgot or were wondering, the Cardinals We meet with Tolliver before the draft.

Tolliver is probably not a candidate to draft, but having him for an official visit is likely lining him up to be a priority free agent. Such was the case for Carlton Agudosi last year, who is on the roster still after spending most of the season on the practice squad, then getting promoted to the active roster for the final weeks of 2017.

Expect to see his name come across social media Saturday night and Sunday after the draft as a player joining the Cardinals.

https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018...dly-visit-with-very-small-school-wr-prospect/

Ronin · May 18, 2018

https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/18/cardinals-undrafted-rookie-profile-lb-frank-ginda/

Ronin · May 27, 2018

Cardinals undrafted rookie profile: CB Deatrick Nichols
https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/27/cardinals-undrafted-rookie-profile-cb-deatrick-nichols/

Cardiac · May 27, 2018

Ronin said:
Cardinals undrafted rookie profile: CB Deatrick Nichols
https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/27/cardinals-undrafted-rookie-profile-cb-deatrick-nichols/

Okay, so once again thanks for all the links and info.....great stuff.

You did swing the pendulum pretty hard the other way on font size.

Ronin · May 27, 2018

Cardiac said:
Okay, so once again thanks for all the links and info.....great stuff.

You did swing the pendulum pretty hard the other way on font size.

my bad.

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