Update: Cardinals agree to terms with LB Jarvis Jones

jbeecham

ASFN Addict
Joined
Sep 12, 2002
Posts
6,250
Reaction score
583
Location
Phoenix, AZ
As soon as I heard what Mike B said regarding "contribution to D and Special Teams" I thought to myself, oh man, does Jones knows he signed up for ST as well, since he didn't play that in Pitt? I wonder if he thought to himself, "Oh Sh*, I wasn't expecting that". Like when you come back from the grocery store and your SO yells at you for forgetting the milk.

I don't know, I thought that whole last five seconds was pretty funny to me...
Jarvis's facial expression doesn't really change though once Bidwill mentions special teams (no shock or surprise) so I think they went over that with him when they put him through a film session & told him all the ways they felt he could improve/contribute to our team.
 

JeffGollin

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
20,472
Reaction score
3,056
Location
Holmdel, NJ
I guarantee you the Steelers and their fans are laughing their asses off at us.
Not disagreeing with you (you have acces to info I don't have) but I have to observe that - when our FO guys spend their time worrying about whether another team's fans are laughing their asses off at us, they're in the wrong line of work.
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
40,536
Reaction score
25,276
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
Not disagreeing with you (you have acces to info I don't have) but I have to observe that - when our FO guys spend their time worrying about whether another team's fans are laughing their asses off at us, they're in the wrong line of work.

Oh, that shouldn't matter to them, nor does it. It's merely a comment on the player.

I just think this is another case of our FO thinking they're smarter than everyone else, that they can turn him around. I don't think they can (clearly), and neither does, well, Pittsburgh.
 

iLLmatiC

Drive-by Poster
Joined
Jul 4, 2004
Posts
7,664
Reaction score
5,334
Location
Gilbert, AZ
Oh, that shouldn't matter to them, nor does it. It's merely a comment on the player.

I just think this is another case of our FO thinking they're smarter than everyone else, that they can turn him around. I don't think they can (clearly), and neither does, well, Pittsburgh.

I think it's more like our FO is taking a one year flyer on a player to prove himself. I see no risk in this signing on our end.
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
40,536
Reaction score
25,276
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
I think it's more like our FO is taking a one year flyer on a player to prove himself. I see no risk in this signing on our end.

The risk is that it kills our depth at the position. It especially kills us if there's an injury and we suddenly don't have anyone that can start and have to rely on hot garbage to fill in.
 

Cheesebeef

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Posts
92,638
Reaction score
71,522
The risk is that it kills our depth at the position. It especially kills us if there's an injury and we suddenly don't have anyone that can start and have to rely on hot garbage to fill in.

Exactly. I would have much rather seen Sio Moore resigned.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PJ1

PJ1

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 21, 2002
Posts
12,370
Reaction score
5,572
Location
Nashville TN.
Moore played well down the stretch. Can't imagine he would cost much. Crazy not to sign him.
 

Lagerfilled

Professional Tailgater
Joined
Mar 23, 2004
Posts
1,578
Reaction score
785
Location
Amen Corner
What does Sio Moore have to do with signing Jarvis Jones?

Nothing! It has more to do with Buc, Dansby, Fua, G Martin, and Wright, who are our current inside backers.

The question is... Does Moore have more (no pun intended) value than the three other backups? Does he play special teams? If so, I'd rather have Moore back because he's proven to be able to step up as a starter. Not sure Fua, Martin, or Wright are anything more than special teamers.
 

BigRedRage

Reckless
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Posts
48,274
Reaction score
12,526
Location
SE valley
Nothing! It has more to do with Buc, Dansby, Fua, G Martin, and Wright, who are our current inside backers.

The question is... Does Moore have more (no pun intended) value than the three other backups? Does he play special teams? If so, I'd rather have Moore back because he's proven to be able to step up as a starter. Not sure Fua, Martin, or Wright are anything more than special teamers.

Well, Moore was who we turned to when we had to put someone in so I would assume he hs shown more than those other guys.
 

RINGLESS

Veteran
Joined
Mar 11, 2015
Posts
320
Reaction score
89
Impatiently waiting for his contract details to be released still...
 

AZCrazy

ASFN Lifer
Joined
May 18, 2014
Posts
3,984
Reaction score
2,562
I don't see Sio Moore currently on the roster, but he performed noticeably well last year when called upon.
I think a rotation of Dansby, Moore, Bucannon, and the best of Fua, Scooby, and Martin would be a decent position group.
Upgrade with one more stud in the draft and it won't be weakness. Just not sure what Moore's disposition is at the moment.
 

JeffGollin

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
20,472
Reaction score
3,056
Location
Holmdel, NJ
What does Sio Moore have to do with signing Jarvis Jones?
Well...they both play the same or similar LB roles (although the way Bettcher shuffles the deck, you can never be sure what those positions or roles actually are).

Based on superficial input only, the impression I get is that (before the latter part of last season when the blitzes worked) Okafor was said to be more a kind of straight-linish edge-anchoring SLB. Based on his play of late, doesn't J Jones have a similar profile?
 

GuernseyCard

ASFN Icon
Joined
Dec 29, 2012
Posts
10,123
Reaction score
5,681
Location
London UK
Well...they both play the same or similar LB roles (although the way Bettcher shuffles the deck, you can never be sure what those positions or roles actually are).

Based on superficial input only, the impression I get is that (before the latter part of last season when the blitzes worked) Okafor was said to be more a kind of straight-linish edge-anchoring SLB. Based on his play of late, doesn't J Jones have a similar profile?

Had we signed Sio, would anyone be saying that he's stepping into Okafor ' s role?
 

BigRedRage

Reckless
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Posts
48,274
Reaction score
12,526
Location
SE valley
http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and...uzziness/87fc7877-3e0a-46a6-9830-2e0953b85c5e

Jones signed a $2.2 million contract with a $1 million signing bonus in free agency, and as a former first-round pick, the hope was that he could rejuvenate his career in special packages on defense with the Cardinals. Instead, his impact has been negligible, and Capi is trying to take advantage by turning his dark-horse chance into a spot with the team.

I thought Jarvis was a vet minimum guy. With this above, do you think we cut him or put him on IR?
 

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
559,393
Posts
5,463,793
Members
6,337
Latest member
rattle
Top