Update on Whitehurst
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82CardsGrad
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I think what you meant to say is that Johnson tossed 37 passes within his first 3 seasons.
73 in his first 4...
JeffGollin
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This thread is a broken record.My point is not that he hasn't been a starter, but that he literally has not tossed single pass in 4 years... Johnson, in his first 3 years in the league as a non-starter, tossed 384 passes... that's 384 more than Charlie...
To break the cycle of "he hasn't taken practically any snaps" vs. "Wiz knows best". someone please answer the following question:
If not Whitehurst or Anderson, who?
AARP-eligible Charley Batch or Jeff Garcia? Spleen-challenged Chris Simms? Another year of BSP?
Or do we roll the dice on the Cody McCoys of the world?
There don't seem to be many viable options out there.
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82CardsGrad
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Well, not sure about Cody McCoy Jeff, but if it's up to me, I'd take a shot at drafting Colt McCoy over giving up a 3rd rounder for Whitehurst... but that's just me...
Buckybird
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been saying the same thing all along
HoodieBets
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If it was my decision to make it would be Whitehurst I feel like he is the best option and certainly better than a rookie i dont want a 2nd year guy running the team next year bc we all know the cards arent paying matty next year at what he is due to make. At least Whitehurst has learned from one of the best the last 4 years something you cant say about a rookie.
Matt L
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I know my original post was incorrect so I ammended it.
I have to agree with these guys. The point that he hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL does not necessarily mean that he is no good. i think a lot of playing time for the qb position comes down to opportunity.
In the past four seasons, Billy Volek has played in 10 games and thrown 43 passes. In the last 2 seasons it was four games that he has played in with 31 attempts.
The fact is that he (whitehurst) played behind an all pro qb in san diego. There was not much opportunity for him to get into any NFL games. If the staff thinks that he can come in and compete for the job, I am all for them signing him.
How much is a 3rd round tender contract? I thought that I had read somewhere that it would be for 1.6 million this season. I could be wrong on the numbers but if that is true, i assume that is be more than most 3rd stringers make. The bolts must value him if they want to keep him for that amount of money.
I have to agree with these guys. The point that he hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL does not necessarily mean that he is no good. i think a lot of playing time for the qb position comes down to opportunity.
In the past four seasons, Billy Volek has played in 10 games and thrown 43 passes. In the last 2 seasons it was four games that he has played in with 31 attempts.
The fact is that he (whitehurst) played behind an all pro qb in san diego. There was not much opportunity for him to get into any NFL games. If the staff thinks that he can come in and compete for the job, I am all for them signing him.
How much is a 3rd round tender contract? I thought that I had read somewhere that it would be for 1.6 million this season. I could be wrong on the numbers but if that is true, i assume that is be more than most 3rd stringers make. The bolts must value him if they want to keep him for that amount of money.
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WildBB
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Your talking about a 1st for McCoy, cause he won't be there 2nd. I'll pass on that.
WildBB
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I'd take Anderson first and this guy 2nd.
82CardsGrad
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We don't know that... I wouldn't spend a 1st on McCoy either... but if he's there for us in the 2nd round, I would definitely jump at that...
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My point - Whitehurst may not be the perfect answer, but appears to be the best of a mediocre set of options.
Note - I'm not a big McCoy fan. After you get past Bradford or Clousen (neither of whom are sure-fire locks to make it) there are a bunch of boom or bust guys ranging from Pike, McCoy and Canfield and Robinson and Jared Brown to long-shots like Levi Brown or Skelton. No doubt one or two may make it, but I challenge anyone to know which of this illustrious group will turn out to be successful..
If we don't sign Whitehurst, it probably would mean we'd be rolling the dice on Anderson -an inconsistent QB capable of either lighting it up or really sucking. And if not Anderson, either a bunch of pappy guys or a really iffy bunch of rookies.
Which would mean that (assuming he meets expectations) we're one collar-bone away from disaster in Leinart.
That's pretty shaky ground. I think Whitehurst offers us the best opportunity - from a range of poor options - to make it somewhat less shaky.
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HoodieBets
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Anderson had one of the worst games in NFL history last year and his other games werent far behind, him and bulger are the two guys that would make me throw up if we signed them plus it wont solve our QB problem for next year which should be just as big of a concern
WildBB
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We need to be a little more settled at the position b-4 draft time. We do know that.
Way too many holes right now.
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As someone who has been a proponent of Whitehurst coming here I am afraid this is a precursor to his signing Seattles offer sheet.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/15636/seahawks-roster-shakeup-continues
Likely the 4th rounder is the compensation they have worked out with San Diego?
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/15636/seahawks-roster-shakeup-continues
Likely the 4th rounder is the compensation they have worked out with San Diego?
WildBB
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And the yr. before last , I saw Anderson allmost single handedly win the game @ UoP. Guy playing indoors would make a world of difference for him, so would Whis..
Thanks for the link. I think you're right and I think Seattle didn't deal for a 4th until they heard that Whitehurst was willing to sign.
Unless it's a money thing (because I get the money thing), I don't understand why Whitehurst would prefer Seattle to Phoenix.
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There's a much much better chance he'll be starting in Seattle than here.
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Not if they draft Clausen with their #6 pick.
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lol, Clausen isn't going to be making it past Washington.
Zeno
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How do we know that? If he plays well this season what he is due next year is less than the price of a franchised QB.
I'm not psychic so I don't pretend to know how he will do, I think/hope he will play well but who knows?
I am not dead set against Whitehurst I just don't think giving up a third round pick for him is the right thing to do. If we can negotiate a conditional pick type of thing for next years draft that would be fine.
Whitehurst didn't have a stellar college career--he had a high completion % but had a propensity for throwing INTs, so far in his preseason snaps he has continued to throw more INTs than TDs, thats worrisome to me because its a continuing trend.
HoodieBets
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Unless he plays like Kurt Warner this year he will be released and either way he might be released to try and work a new deal because the price tag is so high
I haven't read the whole thread so maybe the answer is buried here somewhere, but could someone please tell me why the Chargers want to get rid of him in the first place?
If he's all that, why is he on the trade block? Why not get rid of Volek instead??
If he's all that, why is he on the trade block? Why not get rid of Volek instead??
Doc Cardinal
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So we don't get Whitehurst and everyone will be friggin happy.
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