Warner's Take on Leinart
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Interesting. Not sure I expected this from Warner. He always seemed to be lukewarm about Leinart.
He did get out there and have a chance to manage a game.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010081454/2010/PRE1/texans@cardinals
By all accounts he failed miserably at managing that game. A game where there should have been zero stress and a game at which point you were still crowned the #1 QB of AZCF.
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Peyton Manning would have failed to manage that game. Microscopic view.
Manning would not have let WR's line up in the wrong spots. He would not have run plays that way etc.. etc... That just wouldn't have happened. That's what managing a game is all about.
If you notice in all 3 of my "who impressed you and why" threads form the pre-season games, Matt Leinart is at or near the top of my list. But that's purely the physical aspect. There is so much more to it than that.
THESMEL
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Kurt dropped expectations as he hit the door, on purpose. Those Wow plays are not appropriate as the Titans hammered the blitz every down. Mario Williams ran over Keith and sacked Matty twice, And Matt was nearly perfect against the bears in the 2 minute drill and beyond. I mean 10-10 and a perfect QB rating would be showing off right?
We know what Matt has and I feel comfortable with that, we have to see what DA has and get him coached up in this offense. Matt's day is here he should start and his best games are yet to come in the NFL. He is very capable of being a HOFFER and elite QB.
Kurt put in alot of time in a lot of places to get where He was in GSOT and the Cards NFCW runs. Green bay cut him for FAVRE, Kurt knows what He talks about. He is leading from a far.
We know what Matt has and I feel comfortable with that, we have to see what DA has and get him coached up in this offense. Matt's day is here he should start and his best games are yet to come in the NFL. He is very capable of being a HOFFER and elite QB.
Kurt put in alot of time in a lot of places to get where He was in GSOT and the Cards NFCW runs. Green bay cut him for FAVRE, Kurt knows what He talks about. He is leading from a far.
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I think it's coming down to the fact that Leinart and Whis' definition of "hard work" is completely different.
This is simply a hunch but Leinart may think hard work is showing up for practice, team meetings, and watching film. Basically, the bare minimum that's asked of him. Whis is probably looking for Leinart to go above and beyond the basics considering Toast is the leader of this team.
What's above and beyond Leinarts definition of "hard work"??? He should have learned that from Warner who, outside of his basic duties as the Cardinals QB, routinely worked w/ Whis and Haley to design new plays, text them constantly w/ ideas, sat with the coaches on plane flights to discuss the offense, etc.
Oh, I guess I should have started w/ "talk to your head coach."
This is simply a hunch but Leinart may think hard work is showing up for practice, team meetings, and watching film. Basically, the bare minimum that's asked of him. Whis is probably looking for Leinart to go above and beyond the basics considering Toast is the leader of this team.
What's above and beyond Leinarts definition of "hard work"??? He should have learned that from Warner who, outside of his basic duties as the Cardinals QB, routinely worked w/ Whis and Haley to design new plays, text them constantly w/ ideas, sat with the coaches on plane flights to discuss the offense, etc.
Oh, I guess I should have started w/ "talk to your head coach."
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By all accounts, he has worked incredibly hard and done the above and beyond things. First to enter, last to leave, etc. Coaches, players and media have commented on that.
Agreed. Thats all great and all but if it doesn't translate to being able to manage on offense on the field its all worthless.
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Hopefully he was actually working hard and not going through the motions. Whis was very pissed after the first two PS games because of simple mistakes that were occuring on offense. Mistakes that Toast seemed to be making...
All the beat writers have said that Leinart's work ethic this season was "Beyond Reproach"
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Matt is a cool character under pressure, He rarely if ever gets rattled, He won't kill the team with turnover bing at all cost. I respect that. He is not Kurt Warner and some want Matt to be something his is not.
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once a pickle becomes a cucumber, It will never be a cucumber again. watch what you wish for.
Wont kill the team with TO's?
Have you ever even watched the guy play football? Honestly?
Have you ever watched DA play football? Honestly? If this is TO battle, DA doesn't win.
I have. DA isn't what we are debating. Plus his TD/Int ratio is better than Matt's the last I checked.
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This thread is about what Warner said.
His views are pretty close to mine, it's not about all this other stuff, it's about a guy getting his shot to start as the starter and seeing how he does.
As a fan that's all I wanted, I do not want to go with Matt no matter what, I simply would like to see him play.
To those who think DA is good enough to forgo that option I disagree entirely, he's not IMO that good to even contemplate that.
I'd prefer to go with one of the rookies rather than do that.
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You sure you don't want to re-think that statement, Yogi?
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Matt got his shot. So far he has lost it. Its really not that hard.
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Not according to Whiz. We're all trying to read into what he's saying, and we might be right. But so far he said the depth chart hasn't changed.
man shane i can't wait until we cut matt and start anderson and you can watch the season blow up,
i haven't read all your posts but some here have said you have stated your support or a preference for matt but then take every opportunity to slam him
if thats true and you get what you really want a derrick anderson led team you are going to regret it
mark it and make me eat crow if i'm wrong
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He's managed the offense quite well this offseason in very limited opportunities. He's spread the ball around, avoided sacks, got rid of the ball quickly while being hit and completing the pass, had sustained drives, scored points, NOT turned the ball over. He's had a grand total of what, 6 drives in 3 games?
When's the last time this offense was hitting on all cylinders in the preseason anyway? Look what Warner did last preseason. 52%, 0TD, 3INT. Did he not know the offense? Just imagine if Leinart put up those numbers.
