Watching the games in HD

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even the Cards game which someone proclaimed it wouldn't be. It's great at least up until the point I saw Andrea Kramer doing the sideline reporting. :hairraise
 

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even the Cards game which someone proclaimed it wouldn't be. It's great at least up until the point I saw Andrea Kramer doing the sideline reporting. :hairraise

The game wasn't on HD on Sunday Ticket. It was in HD in the local markets.
 

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Game wasn't in HD in Phoenix. It was "Fox Widescreen", which is 480P. Looks like HD, but the resolution is lower.
 

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CardShark said:
which someone proclaimed it wouldn't be
Woo hoo! I'm someone!

The game was not in HD anywhere (except on in-stadium replays). As stated previously, Fox maintains six HD units, and ours was the odd game out today.

To tell the difference, look at the names of players on the backs of jerseys. That's the easiest way to see that you were getting 480i (by the way, it's 480i, not 480p: even 480p would look significantly better) widescreen.

Notably, when Fox started doing their widescreen SD broadcasts (it started with a Super Bowl), their official corporate position was that 480i was good enough, and no one would really be able to tell the difference. They called it "Enhanced Resolution." When ABC and ESPN countered with all games in 720p, people noticed the difference, and Fox unexpectedly changed their position.
 
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How come with direct tv the HD broadcast on CBS is MUCH Better Audio-wise than Fox...I watch part of the Sea/Det game as well as the non-HD but looks like HD Cards game and the audio on both was quite a few notches lower than the HD on CBS. CBS HD and Audio sounded GREAT! And LOOKED GREAT!
 

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Don't need to nitpick, but I thought Fox Widescreen was 480P. Here's a quote form the '02 Super Bowl.

Instead of the ultimate high resolution format, 1080i, the Super Bowl will be shown in what Fox is calling "Fox Widescreen," or 480p with a 16:9 aspect ratio. The format—EDTV (enhanced definition TV)—is actually one of the 18 acceptable variants of digital television as formulated by the Advanced Television Standards Committee. Fox recognized that even though there are more than two million American homes now equipped with HD receivers and/or monitors, cable systems still don't carry HD signals.
 

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EndZone said:
How come with direct tv the HD broadcast on CBS is MUCH Better Audio-wise than Fox...I watch part of the Sea/Det game as well as the non-HD but looks like HD Cards game and the audio on both was quite a few notches lower than the HD on CBS. CBS HD and Audio sounded GREAT! And LOOKED GREAT!

CBS = 1080i (1920 x 1080)
Fox = 720p (1280 x 720)

Pixel wise, CBS is showing a more detailed picture. NBC also uses 1080i, while ABC and ESPN show 720p.
 

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Nope, the broadcast is done in 480i. Local affiliates convert to 480p before sending out, but to call that broadcast 480p is the same as calling an episode of "I Love Lucy" a "color" episode because the station sending it out used the color transmitter.

The reason Fox does this is that they don't have conversion equipment in use at the game. Since the entire production is done in 480i, they can simply send a cropped picture down the line for their analog broadcast. Then, once produced in 480i, it is converted to 480p for transmission, but make no mistake, this is not a 480p production. For a more complete explanation, please visit http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/11201/.

As to sound, well, both Fox and CBS use Dolby Digital on their HD broadcasts. Quality of sound is dependent upon their production team.
 

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Yeah, I guess it would have been nice to read the entire article.

Fox Widescreen is still better than NTSC 4:3, but still a year or two away before they will have enough equipment and support to show 16 games a weekend in HD.
 

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Also...whats with all the "sound effects" with FOX this year. Can you say overkill!. Geez :shrug:
 

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Also...whats with all the "sound effects" with FOX this year. Can you say overkill!. Geez :shrug:

Yeah, and that stupid dancing robot thing is annoying as hell.
 

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The one that is really annoying is the noise (sound effect) at every snap of the ball. wtf is that!
 

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