We Just Lost To Kliff Kingsbury

[Shane]

Whats funny is if that team keeps going on this offensive trajectory, he will 100% be a HC again...

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Whats funny is if that team keeps going on this offensive trajectory, he will 100% be a HC again...

And it will be just as big a mistake as the Cards handing him the keys to the car. He's a decent offensive coordinator (let's see if he can do it well for a whole season without being figured out), but he absolutely doesn't have the personality to be a successful head coach.

 

[Shane]

And it will be just as big a mistake as the Cards handing him the keys to the car. He's a decent offensive coordinator (let's see if he can do it well for a whole season without being figured out), but he absolutely doesn't have the personality to be a successful head coach.

I don’t disagree with that one bit

 

[iLLmatiC]

Knowing the cardinals they’ll split it and give us renewed hope.

In typical cardinals fashion..

 

[cardncubfan]

Kliff Kingsbury Gets Brutally Honest About Leaving Cardinals

Former Arizona Cardinals HC Kliff Kingsbury got candid in an interview with ESPN.

www.si.com

Kingsbury's come a long way since being fired from the Cardinals after a dismal 2022 season, one where he says he nearly lost his love for the game and called it quits entirely.

"All I'd done is football for a long time, and I was just like, 'Hey, I've had enough.' The last year in Arizona was just ... a lot of things we went through made it feel like it was not for me anymore," Kingsbury told ESPN's John Keim in an interview.

One source close to Kingsbury told ESPN, "It was Hard Knocks, Kyler [Murray] was hurt and pissed off. There was a ton of stuff. Injuries."

ESPN's John Keim also highlighted that Kingsbury and Murray's relationship soured towards the end of their tenure together, as Kingsbury would avoid confrontation with players in the locker room and even struggled with key figures such as owner Michael Bidwill and general manager Steve Keim.

 

[Dback Jon]

Kliff Kingsbury Gets Brutally Honest About Leaving Cardinals

Former Arizona Cardinals HC Kliff Kingsbury got candid in an interview with ESPN.

www.si.com

Kingsbury's come a long way since being fired from the Cardinals after a dismal 2022 season, one where he says he nearly lost his love for the game and called it quits entirely.

"All I'd done is football for a long time, and I was just like, 'Hey, I've had enough.' The last year in Arizona was just ... a lot of things we went through made it feel like it was not for me anymore," Kingsbury told ESPN's John Keim in an interview.

One source close to Kingsbury told ESPN, "It was Hard Knocks, Kyler [Murray] was hurt and pissed off. There was a ton of stuff. Injuries."

ESPN's John Keim also highlighted that Kingsbury and Murray's relationship soured towards the end of their tenure together, as Kingsbury would avoid confrontation with players in the locker room and even struggled with key figures such as owner Michael Bidwill and general manager Steve Keim.

Sounds like he was not ready to be an NFL Head Coach.

Maybe he has matured. Or maybe OC is his ceiling.

 

[602 Native]

Failure helps people either mature and get better or stay at their previous level.

Look like Kliff has done the former.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Maybe he has a QB that can throw more than 10 yards.

 

[ajcardfan]

Sounds like he was not ready to be an NFL Head Coach.

Maybe he has matured. Or maybe OC is his ceiling.

I always maintained that will be an OC for a very long time in the NFL. In my mind, he's a younger Norv Turner.

 

[Dback Jon]

Maybe he has a QB that can throw more than 10 yards.

He had one here

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[Goodyear Card]

He had one here

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he had a great deep ball when he was throwing to Hopkins. Since Hopkins left, he has not been able to complete deep passes. In reality Hopkins was great at jump balls. Murray never was good at long passes.

 

[HairZach]

he had a great deep ball when he was throwing to Hopkins. Since Hopkins left, he has not been able to complete deep passes. In reality Hopkins was great at jump balls. Murray never was good at long passes.

Murray was amazing at deep balls his rookie year. Murray's deep ball has just gotten worse and worse ever since Tom Clements left.

 

[cardncubfan]

Sounds like he was not ready to be an NFL Head Coach.

Maybe he has matured. Or maybe OC is his ceiling.

"... I don't think I set the foundation [in Arizona] the way I would do it after watching DQ [Dan Quinn] and how he set the foundation from day one. These are the standards, this is what we want, this is what we're going to be," Kingsbury said.

"I definitely could have done a better job of that and kind of once you don't lay it out like that, it's hard to put it back in."

 

[Dback Jon]

"... I don't think I set the foundation [in Arizona] the way I would do it after watching DQ [Dan Quinn] and how he set the foundation from day one. These are the standards, this is what we want, this is what we're going to be," Kingsbury said.

"I definitely could have done a better job of that and kind of once you don't lay it out like that, it's hard to put it back in."

Glad he is realizing that.

And note - Quinn failed his first time as a HC, so looks like he learned lessons as well.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kliff Kingsbury Gets Brutally Honest About Leaving Cardinals

Former Arizona Cardinals HC Kliff Kingsbury got candid in an interview with ESPN.

www.si.com

Kingsbury's come a long way since being fired from the Cardinals after a dismal 2022 season, one where he says he nearly lost his love for the game and called it quits entirely.

"All I'd done is football for a long time, and I was just like, 'Hey, I've had enough.' The last year in Arizona was just ... a lot of things we went through made it feel like it was not for me anymore," Kingsbury told ESPN's John Keim in an interview.

One source close to Kingsbury told ESPN, "It was Hard Knocks, Kyler [Murray] was hurt and pissed off. There was a ton of stuff. Injuries."

ESPN's John Keim also highlighted that Kingsbury and Murray's relationship soured towards the end of their tenure together, as Kingsbury would avoid confrontation with players in the locker room and even struggled with key figures such as owner Michael Bidwill and general manager Steve Keim.

I'm happy for Kliff.

 

[602 Native]

Glad he is realizing that.

And note - Quinn failed his first time as a HC, so looks like he learned lessons as well.

Quinn was a Super Bowl coach he just lost his OC so I wouldn't call him a failure.

The flip side to that though is Whiz also going to a Super Bowl who I thought was a terrible coach.

 

[Dback Jon]

Quinn was a Super Bowl coach he just lost his OC so I wouldn't call him a failure.

The flip side to that though is Whiz also going to a Super Bowl who I thought was a terrible coach.

Failure as he was fired - after he lost Shanahan, he had a losing record.

 

[Harry]

I think Kingsbury has proved he’s a solid Offensive Coordinator. He was a weak Head Coach when with the Cards. He’ll get another shot and be better next time around, but I think he needs to be in the right situation to make it work. He’s a smart guy, but that’s not enough.

 

[swagron]

I think Kingsbury has proved he’s a solid Offensive Coordinator. He was a weak Head Coach when with the Cards. He’ll get another shot and be better next time around, but I think he needs to be in the right situation to make it work. He’s a smart guy, but that’s not enough.

QB failure proved to be Kliffs failure. He deserved more than he got here.

 

[Harry]

QB failure proved to be Kliffs failure. He deserved more than he got here.

Maybe but he was as much a part of the problem as a part of the solution. He got the QB he wanted.

 

[AZ Native]

I think Kingsbury has proved he’s a solid Offensive Coordinator. He was a weak Head Coach when with the Cards. He’ll get another shot and be better next time around, but I think he needs to be in the right situation to make it work. He’s a smart guy, but that’s not enough.

I think he has proven he can be a successful OC. In my opinion, he is not head coach material. They are 2 completely different skill sets. And in no world would I make him the HC and OC. Too much responsibility. He may eventually get a HC Job but he will get fired again and be back to where he can excel. JMHO

 

[AZCB34]

Maybe but he was as much a part of the problem as a part of the solution. He got the QB he wanted.

But the subsequent failure of said QB doomed him. He couldn’t predict that Kyler would continually trip over his Johnson especially when it counts most or be soft or be incapable of playing from the pocket or lose his accuracy or be a bad study guy or a piss poor leader or suck at timing throws.

Kliff misevaluated Kyler apparently. While Daniels may not have been his choice (I think it would be interesting to figure out how he felt about him per draft), he has certainly properly evaluated him and is getting the most out of him.

If Kliff smart, he will never stop being an OC because it seems he is excellent at that. Everyone around here acts like he overhauled his offense but it doesn’t look like he changed all that much but his QB is able to execute plays Kyler simply cannot I guess