We lost today because we were unable to sign a competent kicker

[Jetstream Green]

43 yard field goal indoors, at home (thought does that really matter with the Cards of late), a pro kicker kicks that no argument. There is no player I can guarantee in the locker room with the time remaining, which is blaming Murray, though it was not smart trusting his intuition and the stadium display... now if you want to blame Kyler for this loss, go ahead and follow your narrative if it makes you happy, but he got the offense in better than reasonable field goal range which was his first and primary objective

I blame the kicker and Keim for signing a guy with a less percentage success than what he had to choose from

 

[Stout]

43 yard field goal indoors, at home (thought does that really matter with the Cards of late), a pro kicker kicks that no argument. There is no player I can guarantee in the locker room with the time remaining, which is blaming Murray, though it was not smart trusting his intuition and the stadium display... now if you want to blame Kyler for this loss, go ahead and follow your narrative if it makes you happy, but he got the offense in better than reasonable field goal range which was his first and primary objective

I blame the kicker and Keim for signing a guy with a less percentage success than what he had to choose from

So you want to defend a guy who shied away from contact, made an extraordinarily dumb slide, then spiked the ball. You're actually going to defend his cowardly play there? You're going to criticize people for criticizing him?

Yes, the offense went down the field and got into position for a kick the street FA should've made. No, that doesn't absolve KM's heartless stupidity in the moment.

 

[Jetstream Green]

So you want to defend a guy who shied away from contact, made an extraordinarily dumb slide, then spiked the ball. You're actually going to defend his cowardly play there? You're going to criticize people for criticizing him?

Yes, the offense went down the field and got into position for a kick the street FA should've made. No, that doesn't absolve KM's heartless stupidity in the moment.

Yeah, I will because I am looking at this logically. He got us in field goal range against a very good defense, really good field goal range with no time outs. You make a 43 yard field goal, right? Yeah, you make a 43 yard field goal. Maybe if he got his head taken off fighting for that extra yard you would be happier when this kicker would still shank the kick with an extra ten yards by what I saw on the final kick. Go on hate on Murray but I guess that is where the hate is on the forum, regardless of what he does do while that bum kicker was not the member of this team, but everyone is giving him a free pass compared to what they are dumping on our own QB

 

[Stout]

Yeah, I will because I am looking at this logically. He got us in field goal range against a very good defense, really good field goal range with no time outs. You make a 43 yard field goal, right? Yeah, you make a 43 yard field goal. Maybe if he got his head taken off fighting for that extra yard you would be happier when this kicker would still shank the kick with an extra ten yards by what I saw on the final kick. Go on hate on Murray but I guess that is where the hate is on the forum, regardless of what he does do while that bum kicker was not the member of this team, but everyone is giving him a free pass compared to what they are dumping on our own QB

Or maybe he gets the first down, clocks the ball, takes a few shots at the end zone, and we win without having to rely on our street FA kicker.

Twice this season he's refused contact and played scared in hurryup offenses, and this has hurt his team's chances. There's no defending that. It's a bad look trying to defend that.

In that situation, I absolutely, positively want my QB risking contact. How can you not?

 

[AZCB34]

There’s a reason kickers are on the street and not on a roster and it usually has to do with missing kicks.

The weak, soft $250m QB created the issue for the miss

 

[Shane]

It’s a part of the overall problem but it’s a not why….. that’s an over generalized excuse.

 

[slanidrac16]

So you want to defend a guy who shied away from contact, made an extraordinarily dumb slide, then spiked the ball. You're actually going to defend his cowardly play there? You're going to criticize people for criticizing him?

Yes, the offense went down the field and got into position for a kick the street FA should've made. No, that doesn't absolve KM's heartless stupidity in the moment.

I see Jetstreams point. If the fg is good and we go on to win this is glared over. However……

 

[Jetstream Green]

It’s a part of the overall problem but it’s a not why….. that’s an over generalized excuse.

I am only addressing the game from the most crucial moment which was a very very very makeable kick which was shanked to the right. That is not an excuse, but a fact which made the Eagle players jump up and down with relief and Cardinal fans see the final outcome

 

[pemory09]

Well…our multimillion dollar QB didn’t exactly take care of business either.

 

[slanidrac16]

Yeah, I will because I am looking at this logically. He got us in field goal range against a very good defense, really good field goal range with no time outs. You make a 43 yard field goal, right? Yeah, you make a 43 yard field goal. Maybe if he got his head taken off fighting for that extra yard you would be happier when this kicker would still shank the kick with an extra ten yards by what I saw on the final kick. Go on hate on Murray but I guess that is where the hate is on the forum, regardless of what he does do while that bum kicker was not the member of this team, but everyone is giving him a free pass compared to what they are dumping on our own QB

Frustration has been building toward Kyler the day he started pouting and sending subliminal messages about his contract.
The day he signed that contract I stated he better grow some thick skin because he was going to be scrutinised very closely based on his performance
I think it’s clear he has not played up to the 245m contract.
He is making some decisions that a 245m Qb shouldn’t be making. It will come out this week of how, once again, he threw to the wrong receiver on several occasions, but some might say I digress.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Kicking a FG should have been the last resort and only after trying first to get into the end zone. All kickers miss kicks. Prater could have missed it. Kyler could have extended the drive but chose instead to slide before the first down. No excuse for that. None.

 

[Dback Jon]

Well…our multimillion dollar QB didn’t exactly take care of business either.

He marched this down field with a good two minute drill. Even if we had gotten another 10 yards the kicker still misses

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

It was everything. Keim's idiotic decision-making, Kliff's poor coaching, and Kyler not performing up to the contract he whined for and signed.

 

[gimpy]

KM could have thrown an int on his next throw, too. It's really a moot point now.

 

[AZCB34]

He marched this down field with a good two minute drill. Even if we had gotten another 10 yards the kicker still misses

You have definitive proof the kicker missed if he is ten yards closer? I am betting the exact same trajectory of that kick but tens yards closer is actually good

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You have definitive proof the kicker missed if he is ten yards closer? I am betting the exact same trajectory of that kick but tens yards closer is actually good

Ditto. 10 yards is 30 feet and he didn't miss it by 30 feet.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Justin Pugh was right to come out and defend this journeyman kicker today. I can’t believe that people are blaming this loss on him instead of the $250 million man

 

[FB94]

Easy to blame the kicker, and yes he probably should have made it, but this was a total team loss because we again sucked balls in the first quarter, period

 

[Russ Smith]

If I understood them they just said Tucker was 24-25 on game changing FG's and the record is 22-22 by matt Prater. i think it was inside 45. Tucker made a 45 yarder to win it.

He should have made it but that's why he was a FA kicker he has choked kicks since he got into the NFL. If Kyler handles that drive better we might not need the FG or it would be much closer. And he still may have missed I agree

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Even if he had made it we may still have lost in overtime. Nothing is certain. So I give Murray 65% of the blame. 25% to KK (for not preparing KM better for all scenarios. 10% on the Kicker (if KM makes that 1st down, he might not have had to kick a FG at all)

 

[BigRedRage]

The Cardinals are not a good football team right now is why they lost. The kicker is the least of my concerns

 

[Dayman]

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He isn't the only reason they lost, but the more I read about him, the more I question why he was signed.

 

[DVontel]

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He isn't the only reason they lost, but the more I read about him, the more I question why he was signed.

The personnel living in their own bubble. I bet Keim & the Special Teams’ staff didn’t even watch Ammendola blow high-pressure kicks just this season.

 

[Zalixar]

The personnel living in their own bubble. I bet Keim & the Special Teams’ staff didn’t even watch Ammendola blow high-pressure kicks just this season.

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[Mainstreet]

Ditto. 10 yards is 30 feet and he didn't miss it by 30 feet.

Yeah, I don't think the field goal missed by a lot from my vantage point. Ten yards closer and it's probably good.