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Russ Smith said:
FYI the Raiders were lighting up Pacman today when he got hurt.


Which means what exactly? He is a rookie of course he is gonna get lit up. Hell all rookies do. However, he also picked off a pass and returned it for a TD but it was called back but no one talks about that! :shrug:

Of course Rolle was the better choice.....what has he done this year? Oh yeah he is hurt!
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Which means what exactly? He is a rookie of course he is gonna get lit up. Hell all rookies do. However, he also picked off a pass and returned it for a TD but it was called back but no one talks about that! :shrug:

Of course Rolle was the better choice.....what has he done this year? Oh yeah he is hurt!

Did you see Mr Physical's attempted tackle on Porter's TD? He made a half hearted one armed attempt, I think Porter felt it, not sure, as he ran through him for a TD.

As to why I posted it, the title of the thread was we should have picked him, I'm glad we didn't. I didn't prefer Rolle either I made it perfectly clear I wanted Derrick Johnson, but if we had to pick a CB, I think we got the better of the 2 between Rolle and pacman.
 

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FYI he is an impressive punt returner, the penalty on the one called back didn't affect the return, and he had a 39 yarder as well, when he catches the ball, he's very good. That said, Raiders radio man Greg Papa said in the pregame he's the new Philip Buchanon, reminded the whole Raider team of him on film, dangerous with the ball, terrible when the ball is in the air, for every big play he'll make he'll give up 3 catches one of which will be a TD. They said he had allowed at least 6 TD catches already, and he gave up 2 more yesterday by missing tackles on Porter. So that's 8 TD catches(at least) on the year he's allowed. The papers say the Raiders players were taunting him by calling him "Phillip" during the game.

Porter was asked about him and he said he's young, games like this will help him but when pushed said "I guess he took bad angles" when trying to explain how Pacman twice whiffed on tackling him on plays he went for TD's on. On the one where he tried to forearm tackle Porter ESPN caught Pacman's teammates (Randy Starks in particular) getting in his face on the sidelines screaming at him because of his pathetic effort on the play.

I for one and quite happy we didn't have a shot at drafting him.
 

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Tennessee DB Adam "Pacman" Jones
I don't usually even have a defensive dud category. I had to create one to hit home how pathetic Mr. Jones is. Did you see his poor excuse of a tackle on Jerry Porter? What a flat-out embarrassment. I'd bench him. I'd fine him. Jones has been nothing short of a total waste, both on and off the field, since the Titans foolishly passed on both Antrel Rolle and Mike Williams for this clown. If you think this is harsh, look at the play on Porter again. Or look at his rap sheet. Or replay his comments from the preseason. I'm sure Jeff Fisher is beside himself watching this.

- Off Foxsports.com frontpage

Just thought i would post this for the thread......
 

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Titans rookie Pacman Jones, benched by coach Jeff Fisher after back-to-back penalties, the second for allegedly cursing an official, left abruptly and did his best to avoid reporters. Fisher said he ordered Jones to the sideline "because he didn't deserve the right to finish the game."
-- The Tennessean


I'm not the kind of guy who's gonna punch another man's ticket one year into his new profession, but if people will compare rookie cornerbacks... say Antrel Rolle (completely random choice) to Pacman Jones than I'd say that Rolle's 4 games were better than all of Pacman's.
Here's a sports metaphor (in a sports conversation? Is that a psudeo double negative or just redundant?!) in the 10 round bout that will be Rolle V Jones round one goes to Rolle, by decision. (mine of course)
 

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Pacman really IS talented, but he has 2 fatal flaws as a CB. #1, he can't play the ball in the air, particularly over his head. Tom Knight had this flaw too, that's why it took him years to get a pick, he'd be in great position, but never made the play. Pacman is better at that than Knight was but he doesn't react well to the ball. The 2nd fatal flaw is he has too much confidence in himself, he has insane makeup speed, but he relies COMPLETELY on this, he buys fakes, overcommits, he's constantly out of position because in college he always was fast enough to recover and make the play. In the NFL, he got burned repeatedly trying to do this.

NOw if he learns to position himself he can still be very good. He was as exciting a kick returner as I saw this year, but he also dropped quite a few punts.

I still think Rolle will wind up a pro bowl FS someday but I'm elated we got him and not Pacman.
 

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http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060103/SPORTS01/601030342/1027

Titans say it's now up to Pacman

Coach criticizes rookie, calls actions inexcusable

By JIM WYATT
Staff Writer

The Titans drafted cornerback Pacman Jones knowing he was on probation for an incident in West Virginia.

They waited on him during his contract holdout. They've let his off-field troubles unfold one case at a time.

They've tried to remain patient despite his run-ins with fans, an opposing coach, game officials, a member of the team's equipment staff and even his teammates.

Now, Titans Coach Jeff Fisher said yesterday, it's time for Jones to do something for himself and the organization.

"He has a lot to learn and it is his job now, to learn,'' Fisher said. "We have stuck our hand out. I have, his teammates have, and the organization has. We have extended him a hand, a helping hand, and now he has to take over and be a pro and do it himself.''

The rookie's controversial season came to an ugly end Sunday in Jacksonville. He received back-to-back penalties — the second for allegedly cursing an official — during the third quarter of Tennessee's 40-13 loss and Fisher benched him the rest of the game.

"I am disappointed the last two weeks in his play on the field,'' Fisher said. "I thought four or five weeks ago he had made the turn … but I think he got worn out. I think he became distracted and I know for a fact he has a long way to go to become a true pro in this league.

"His actions on the field (Sunday) were inexcusable, I don't care whether it is a preseason game, a scrimmage, what have you, you do not respond the way he responded. … He needs to learn, not only how to become a better cornerback, but a better returner, a better member of a team, and less of a distraction.''

Jones made a brief appearance in the locker room yesterday as the players packed up for the offseason. He declined to answer questions from reporters, but did make a brief comment.

"First of all, I want to apologize for my actions in the game. I crossed the line, I was kind of frustrated but I hurt the team. I can't be doing that," Jones said. "This whole season was a learning experience. I have gotten better mentally and physically and I'm just eager to get back for the next year and hopefully it will be a blast.''

Jones started at cornerback the last 13 games. He showed steady improvement in coverage, but stood out in the return game. He went from having trouble catching punts to becoming one of the most dangerous return men.

Fisher said he doesn't believe Jones was a dividing force in the locker room and that in light of Tennessee's poor season the players shouldn't speak negatively about their teammates.

But on a day when "being accountable for your actions" was a hot topic, several players made indirect reference to Jones.

"It was such a frustrating season, guys are going to lose their composure and things like that,'' linebacker Rocky Boiman said. "You've got to be professional, man. Flying off, this and that, it ain't going to cut it.''

"You have a lot of young guys that are being thrust into a position where they have a lot of money and a lot of attention and they don't realize this is a blessing, a big time opportunity, that is not given to many," tight end Erron Kinney said. "It can't be taken for granted and you can't disrespect the game, you can't disrespect your teammates or the organization.''

Fisher said he's not worried about Jones running into more trouble before next season because "he understands there will be no tolerance for any off-the-field legal issues" for anyone on the team.

"A lot of these things are magnified because you are losing and these things go by the wayside when you are winning," Fisher said. "I don't believe he was a dividing force. There is strong opinion on behalf of a number of players that he could have carried himself differently.

"That is also my opinion and I am going to see through that he does, because his success in the organization and this community and this league is going to be heavily dependent on that.''
 

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Thank God the Titans drafted him. What team needs garbage like that?
 

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ajcardfan said:
Thank God the Titans drafted him. What team needs garbage like that?

I go back to something Tim Kawakami wrote in the SJ Mercury news right after the draft. He had a list of good picks, bad picks etc and he said years from now the Cardinals will be so thankful to the Titans when Rolle is still a good NFL player and Pacman is on "the Surreal Life" complaining about being blackballed out of the NFL. He said 3-4 GM's told him that they'd pulled Jones completely off their draft board after his interviews during the predraft workout stuff(don't recall if it was the combine or personal workouts). Said they just wanted no part of the kids attitude.
 

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Pacman Jones

Not sure if anyone already posted this from the East Valley Trib regarding Adam Pacman Jones:

The Titans, who selected cornerback Pacman Jones ahead of CBs Antrel Rolle and Carlos Rogers, are disappointed in his numerous off-field problems and coach Jeff Fisher said Jones must become "less of a distraction."
 

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jefftheshark said:
Uh, wasn't Pacman selected before our pick?

Maybe we should have drafted Cadillac Williams too.

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Exactly...

Rolle has played well when healthy and he is one of the best tackling corners I have EVER seen.

I wouldnt mind him as either a corner or FS. As long as we get another corner to replace him.
 

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BEERZ said:
Exactly...

Rolle has played well when healthy and he is one of the best tackling corners I have EVER seen.

I wouldnt mind him as either a corner or FS. As long as we get another corner to replace him.

Yep! :thumbup: Rolle is a stud and there are no two ways about it. The thought of him on our team makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. I can't wait until he puts the hurt on someone next season. I like the prospects of him as a FS, but I think that should only be considered in a few years. Let him dominate the position he knows for as long as he can.
 

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How is he a total baffon? Because he got int rouble witht he law? I dont think you know much about him. This was the first time he has ever been in trouble at while at WVU was one of there defensive captains and team leaders. Dude is all heart and plays 100% on all downs.

You can lump him into the "thug" category if you want but you might try taking a look at his background before you cast such expersions. :rolleyes:
This thread is bumptastic!!!
 

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Looks like I was dead on with my comment from January last year. Who knew it would get this bad, though...
 

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WVU keeps churning out high character guys!
 

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