Welcome to Arizona Kevin Kolb!

[Mulli]

Thata's what I was thinking. I like the whole deal. You need a QB to win and, while Kolb may turn out to be horrible, you hvae to take the chance. I think he'll turn out to be pretty good. Other than getting spoiled by the 2 years of Warner, our QB's have generally stunk. Kolb can gives us a guy for 10 years if he plays well.

all in!

 

[MadCardDisease]

I'll welcome him when it's official.

 

[devilalum]

The Eagles obviously had more leverage and the Cards didn't help matters with their weak declaration that they were looking at other options. Going into another season with utter garbage at QB would have set this franchise back 10 years.

 

[seesred]

Until it's announced there is no deal. That being said, I hope he is coming and I'm very happy about the proposed deal. Sure we wouldn't have a 2nd in 2012.But it's not a number 1 and I hope we pick 32nd next draft.

In my thinking Kolbe would solidify the key position in the NFL. DRC takes care of a replacable spot. We just drafted at number 1 a stud CB add Toler and pick up someone else we will be fine. Kolbe is a big young kid with a high potential cieling as was DRC. He can throw long and should cause coverage problems for opponents. Kolbe was the bset bet for a long term contract for Fitz.

Welcome Kolbe I hope and go Cards. In Whiz I still trust!

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[desertdawg]

The Eagles obviously had more leverage and the Cards didn't help matters with their weak declaration that they were looking at other options. Going into another season with utter garbage at QB would have set this franchise back 10 years.

I'm thinking/hoping around a .500 season this year and then us being contenders (for a good while) after that!

 

[conraddobler]

Why is there a new hole if we drafted PP7 and lost DRC? If there is a hole isn't it the same old hole we had before?

After the draft we had both, now we have one, that's a new hole from a previous patch job.

 

[conraddobler]

Kolb's stats you can stare at them forever trying to discern something and there just isn't a big enough sample size to tell.

It's worth the gamble but he just hasn't started enough games to be very sure about much.

He seems to play better when it's warm, so that's something.

 

[Mulli]

Kolb's stats you can stare at them forever trying to discern something and there just isn't a big enough sample size to tell.

It's worth the gamble but he just hasn't started enough games to be very sure about much.

He seems to play better when it's warm, so that's something.

awesome

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Roger that.

True, there is no apparent roster hole, but we no longer have a lockdown #3 corner and we gave up Leinart for nothing. It just seems like we overspend on the guys we bring in and get nothing in return for the guys we let go. (Whatever the reasons, we need to evaluate and develop our personnel better and make better decisions).

Onward.

Sickening isnt it?

 

[desertdawg]

Palmer and Kolb were the best out there for us IMO, Palmer got vanquished (not the Cards fault). Kolb can be long term, some liked Orton but his ceiling is kinda hope to make the playoffs, and then it's probably a first round loss. I'm all good with Kolb, good job getting it done, of course I would have prefered a 3rd or 4th if we are giving up DRC, but DRC didn't light it up last year. If Horton is cool , I'm cool. Let's play some friggin pigskin and see what happens.

 

[CtCardinals78]

I'm thinking/hoping around a .500 season this year and then us being contenders (for a good while) after that!

I'm thinking if the Cards had a real GM and a HC who wasn't so stubborn they would have seen the trainwreck that was the Leinart pick. They would have seen Warner retiring and no legitimate backup for him. They would have put a little more diligence into getting a competent starter last year instead of relying on two rookies, a horrible veteran and that other guy. They would have learned from the abortion that was the 2010 season and prepared to find a replacement who could do well for this team. But alas, just like in other offseasons they had their eyes set on one guy and didn't really keep it too secret who that one guy was. The Eagles are salivating because not only are they an organization famous for fleecing other teams in trade deals, but their trade partner pretty much told the whole freaking NFL how much they wanted this guy. So now here are the Cards who are fixated on one guy who noone knows how good he'll be, with no backup plan who are trading with a team notorious for making out with deals. This better work and by that I mean this offense better be drastically improved. If this team is no better than 8-8 this Whisenhunt/Graves regime better come to an end in January.

 

[Rats]

Most definitly worth the gamble but I agree with Jeff. Also, if we do not figure out how to run the ball and tackle and stop the run it won't matter because at this point Kolb can't put the team on his shoulders like Kurt did. Good Luck DRC...hate to see him go but he couldn't tackle either.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I'm thinking if the Cards had a real GM and a HC who wasn't so stubborn they would have seen the trainwreck that was the Leinart pick. They would have seen Warner retiring and no legitimate backup for him. They would have put a little more diligence into getting a competent starter last year instead of relying on two rookies, a horrible veteran and that other guy.

Or perhaps Ownership that told the staff to make Lienart work seeing as they had already paid for him.

 

[conraddobler]

Or perhaps Ownership that told the staff to make Lienart work seeing as they had already paid for him.

That's what I bet happened.

The staff basically coughed, BS, and here we are now.

There's nothing wrong with going after Kolb, you should get to chose the players you go to war with but in the NFL you don't have forever and infinite dollars to start winning.

To say that this team is well managed would be IMO a stretch.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Or perhaps Ownership that told the staff to make Lienart work seeing as they had already paid for him.

Be that as it may, then they should have just rolled the dice with Leinart instead of cutting a guy who was in the system for four years before giving the keys to the season to four guys who don't know the system a month before the season starts. This Kolb thing is the exact same thing. Giving an unknown guy the keys to the season and grossly overpaying in the process. There were other guys out there who fit the system who would have cost much less. This whole thing is a mess created by DG, RG and CKW.

 

[NJCardFan]

And another Cardinal 1st round pick moves on.

 

[JeffGollin]

Silver Lining?

Good Luck DRC...hate to see him go but he couldn't tackle either.

Let's not forget one of this board's favorite sleeper CB's a year ago - AJ Jefferson.

He was close to DRC in athleticism but much more physical. Unfortunately, he was also as raw as rain. Perhaps - with one season and off-season under his belt - he'll be ready to make that quantum step up a level.

 

[Shane]

If 19 million guaranteed is true it's a lot lower than the 35 million many around here have been claiming it would take.

 

[conraddobler]

If 19 million guaranteed is true it's a lot lower than the 35 million many around here have been claiming it would take.

It's not the money now, no one will care what we gave up for him if he's good, and it's not my money anyhow, if he's not good then the move itself will set us back years as always.

I hope he's good cause I aint getting any younger here.

 

[oaken1]

Maybe I am nutz....but if the Kolb deal is done for DRC and our 2nd.....we should jump on the phone right damned now to Denver and offer our 3rd for Orton...or has the Miami deal been completed?
Because just Kolb does not solve our QB situation....Skeletor is not ready...so who is the #2??

 

[CtCardinals78]

Let's not forget one of this board's favorite sleeper CB's a year ago - AJ Jefferson.

He was close to DRC in athleticism but much more physical. Unfortunately, he was also as raw as rain. Perhaps - with one season and off-season under his belt - he'll be ready to make that quantum step up a level.

DRC was a Pro Bowler who had one bad year where everyone had a bad year and he's now expendable? Short of getting Joseph or even Clements DRC's departure will not be replaced this year. Certainly not by AJ Jefferson. This is so ridiculous.
One more thing about DRC if his maturity level and behavior were soooo bad it warranted his trade where was the coaching staff trying to fix it? Where was the leadership trying to guide him? And it all that didn't work big deal, does anyone really think he's the only immature, spoiled player in the NFL? I mean if that were so egregious it warranted a trade there would be players traded everyday in this league. This deal sucks and the Cards will regret this trade. Acquiescing to the belief that DRC was a problem and needed to be traded and is easily replaced by UDFAs or Mike Adams is the train of thought the makes the Cardinals laughing stocks year after year.

 

[Shane]

Maybe I am nutz....but if the Kolb deal is done for DRC and our 2nd.....we should jump on the phone right damned now to Denver and offer our 3rd for Orton...or has the Miami deal been completed?
Because just Kolb does not solve our QB situation....Skeletor is not ready...so who is the #2??

Skelton is a perfect #2

 

[gmabel830]

I had a nice reply all typed out and the site crashed on me -- I looked up the last 10 second round picks: 2 stars (Dansby, Boldin), 2 total busts (Cody Brown, Levar Fisher), 4 guys who were contibuters (Calais Campbell, Lutui, Branch, JJ Arrington), and 2 guys jury is still out on (Ryan Williams, Daryl Washington -- Campbell you could throw in this group too).

So we are probably giving up DRC and a guy who could make solid contributions but not be a star for Kolb.

 

[desertdawg]

Skelton is a perfect #2

Beat me to it, he even got some playing time in last year and averaged less sacks than Probowl Scud and MiniMax. Beat the Cowgirls too, non expensive, has good size and got it to Fitz a little bit....perfect back up.

 

[oaken1]

Skelton is a perfect #2

......and some undrafted FA as #3.......................