Welcome to Phoenix, Bridges

[Big D]

I am a big time DiVincenzo guy after all the money he made me during March Madness this past year... but I can see why Bridges is the better NBA prospect. I just hope his college 3pt range translates into NBA 3 range. DiVincenzo seemed to have anywhere beyond half court range and is a better passer.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I am a big time DiVincenzo guy after all the money he made me during March Madness this past year... but I can see why Bridges is the better NBA prospect. I just hope his college 3pt range translates into NBA 3 range. DiVincenzo seemed to have anywhere beyond half court range and is a better passer.

I loved The Big Ragu too, but he's not near the defender Bridges is and that's something this team desperately needs.

 

[Folster]

my question is what is Josh Jackson thinking tonight?

Boston has Tatum, Brown, Hayward, and Morris at the wing.

The NBA is no longer PG, SG, SF, PF, C.
It's now ball handler, wing, and big.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Boston has Tatum, Brown, Hayward, and Morris at the wing.

The NBA is no longer PG, SG, SF, PF, C.
It's now ball handler, wing, and big.

Boston got beat by LeBron and a rec league team. And would have gotten THRASHED by the Warriors. And probably would have gotten crushed by Houston too. That said, Houston might be the type of team we're building and they gave GS all they could handle.

All that said, I hope you're right and CAN see a world where it's wings and dominant C... my brains still just taking time to get there.

 

[taz02]

I'm wondering if the thinking is to have Booker run the point more since he won't need to score as much. Ayton and Bridges combined for 38ppg and 17rpg....wow.

still need another piece. Either a PG, if the plan isn't Booker, or a nasty Defensive PF.

 

[Phrazbit]

I believe in flexible, borderline positionless basketball. Many many posters have seemed like minded the last few years. Bridges and JJ are players that can play and defend multiple positions.

Somehow this is now a problem? I get questions around Warren, he is a one note player, but the rest of the belly aching confuses me.

Depending on what you think Doncic plays, Bridges may be the highest rated wing in the draft... he defends, he is a great shooter, what is not to like?

I'll miss the tantalizing Miami pick but I'm not worried about how to find time for a potentially great player.

 

[elindholm]

Boston has Tatum, Brown, Hayward, and Morris at the wing.

The NBA is no longer PG, SG, SF, PF, C.
It's now ball handler, wing, and big.

I think you need two guys who can play big, meaning at least 6' 8" and probably 6' 9". Once in a while you'll get a smaller forward who can pose as a PF, but those cases are rare. Size and space still matter.

A PG-SF-SF-SF-C lineup is, in general, going to get mainly the wrong end of the matchup imbalances it creates.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think you need two guys who can play big, meaning at least 6' 8" and probably 6' 9". Once in a while you'll get a smaller forward who can pose as a PF, but those cases are rare. Size and space still matter.

A PG-SF-SF-SF-C lineup is, in general, going to get mainly the wrong end of the matchup imbalances it creates.

But that is the idea of flexibility. You have bigger players available too. Chriss or Bender (not both). Warren will have to step up his game.

The competition for the starting pg role will be interesting.

 

[Phrazbit]

But that is the idea of flexibility. You have bigger players available too. Chriss or Bender (not both). Warren will have to step up his game.

The competition for the starting pg role will be interesting.

I feel like one, maybe 2 of 3 will be on the move.

If they give Payton the QO it will say a lot about their intentions. If they don't I see a trade for a pg in the works.

 

[hsandhu]

You keep saying that without explaining why Booker doesn't have the same stink and the same need to be moved.

Yeah, that is a total nonsensical argument he is making

 

[Cheesebeef]

I feel like one, maybe 2 of 3 will be on the move.

If they give Payton the QO it will say a lot about their intentions. If they don't I see a trade for a pg in the works.

yeah... if there's a world where either Bender/Chriss pan out simply as just solid role players, this team is in really good shape with just one missing piece... the man to run the entire show.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

yeah... if there's a world where either Bender/Chriss pan out simply as just solid role players, this team is in really good shape with just one missing piece... the man to run the entire show.

Lakers and Spurs need the Suns to facilitate a trade taking Dengs contract and possibly Lonzo, Lonzo just Dropped a diss sing on a teammate, LeBron doesn't want Lavar and the Ball business around, I wonder what the Suns would have to do beside taking Dengs contract to land Zo? Ball, Booker, Bridges, Jackson and Ayton would be a very young and Dangerous young team

 

[JCSunsfan]

he should have been thinking about that even before tonight, IMO.

I am sure he was. Do you remember? The day that Igor was introduced, TJ showed up and was involved in a very serious convo with him. He has been insecure about his role here since the end of the season and JJ's emergence.

I think we should extend a QO offer to Elf. Maybe we can get something out of him in a sign and trade. Chriss and TJ are on the block too. Ulis is gone, Sauce maybe too. Len, of course is gone.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Lakers and Spurs need the Suns to facilitate a trade taking Dengs contract and possibly Lonzo, Lonzo just Dropped a diss sing on a teammate, LeBron doesn't want Lavar and the Ball business around, I wonder what the Suns would have to do beside taking Dengs contract to land Zo? Ball, Booker, Bridges, Jackson and Ayton would be a very young and Dangerous young team

I want no part of Lonzo either. He will be the next player teams cannot wait to dump (like Dwight).

 

[DevonCardsFan]

I want no part of Lonzo either. He will be the next player teams cannot wait to dump (like Dwight).

Lonzo fine he is quiet, he put up similar stats to Kidd's Rookie year he will find his shot and fit this team perfect, name a better option to build with this young team?

 

[elindholm]

But that is the idea of flexibility. You have bigger players available too. Chriss or Bender (not both).

I understand the point; I just don't agree with it. I don't know anything about Bridges, so maybe he can be a SG, but neither Jackson nor Warren can be. If they are matched up against a true, skilled SG, they'll be giving up too much. And I'm all for playing either Chriss or Bender alongside Ayton (in the event that either becomes competent, that is), but then it's a traditional front court.

The competition for the starting pg role will be interesting.

Indeed. Sadly, I don't think the Suns are going to be major players between now and training camp. Maybe they'll make a stab at a second-tier PF like Randle. Like everyone else, they have to see where James is going and then try to play the ensuing fallout to their advantage.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Lonzo fine he Quiet, he put up similar stats to Kidd's Rookie year he will find his **** and fit this team perfext, name a better option to build with this young team?

Lonzo Shmerzer? Lonzo Garfunkel? Lonzo DeVicenzo? I'll take any Lonzo that doesn't stand in Lavar's shadow.

 

[elindholm]

Lonzo fine he Quiet, he put up similar stats to Kidd's Rookie year he will find his **** and fit this team perfext, name a better option to build with this young team?

Jeez, when you put it that way, it's awfully compelling. Except for some reason Kidd was a co-Rookie of the Year, instead of a running joke.

 

[JCSunsfan]

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[JCSunsfan]

I understand the point; I just don't agree with it. I don't know anything about Bridges, so maybe he can be a SG, but neither Jackson nor Warren can be. If they are matched up against a true, skilled SG, they'll be giving up too much. And I'm all for playing either Chriss or Bender alongside Ayton (in the event that either becomes competent, that is), but then it's a traditional front court.



Indeed. Sadly, I don't think the Suns are going to be major players between now and training camp. Maybe they'll make a stab at a second-tier PF like Randle. Like everyone else, they have to see where James is going and then try to play the ensuing fallout to their advantage.

Oh my! You don't know anything about Bridges?! He is the best wing in the draft. He can play the 2-4 on offense and defend 1-4. Think Shawn Marion with a jump shot. He is not as quick a jumper, but he is a much better shooter. He has no holes in his game except maybe not the best handle.

He is immediately the best defender on the team.

Look at this.
http://www.tankathon.com/players/mikal-bridges

 

[1tinsoldier]

elindholm said: ↑
You keep saying that without explaining why Booker doesn't have the same stink and the same need to be moved.

Yeah, that is a total nonsensical argument he is making

i didn't think it required explaining, but ok

1. Booker was by far the best thing on the worst team -- the cherry atop the turd
2. Booker had a lot of time off in tank mode and had to carry the load in the Suns pants when he was on the court
3. TJ was a big chunk of the actual turd. a 6th man taking space in the 2nd slot.
4. TJ is not aggressive, disappears a lot, is one dimensional -- does not lead, assist, make 3's, defend or rebound well

what part of that didn't you already know?

 

[1tinsoldier]

I cannot believe we just walked away from this draft with Ayton and Bridges. Wow. And we didn't have to give up JJ to do it.

i was a little slow in the uptake but after checking out Bridges i agree. pulling another top 10 from this draft with star potential without sacrificing JJ is a deal. especially since Bridges rates well in both offense and defense.

and there are many miami pick unknowns:
1. will they still suck?
2. will the ping-pong balls cooperate?
3. will younger kids be eligible? and if so, would we blow it on one of them?

now we've got a potential Big 4
they are all excellent finishers.
we need a pure point guard to distribute

our bench will still suck, 2018 style
but we can work on that slowly

 

[Errntknght]

We successfully ducked Lonzo in the draft, by dint of picking fourth. Let's not even mention the familial name Ball henceforth. Among other things, the eldest Ball boy set the NBA record shooting FTs among non-centers at .431.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Jeez, when you put it that way, it's awfully compelling. Except for some reason Kidd was a co-Rookie of the Year, instead of a running joke.

Well let me post the statline, one was Co Rookie of the year, the other has a loud mouth dad, compare the rookie year and name each player:

Player A
PPG 11.7 RPG 5.4 AST 7.7 FG% .385 3Pt% .272 STL 1.9 TO 3.2

Player B
PPG 10.2 RPG 6.9 AST 7.2 FG% .360 3PT% .305 STL 1.7 TO 2.6

Who is who?

(Hid the Free throw to not give it away it was .451 to.698 between them)


This team needs a PG, Lakers need someone to take Deng and are entertaining moving Ball so they may add Lebron and Leonard, I would certainly hate to miss out on the next Kidd, for taking Dengs horrible contract. Its a no brainer with all the weapons the Suns have now they just need a PG and Ball spaces perfect with this team now.

 

[Phrazbit]

Well let me post the statline, one was Co Rookie of the year, the other has a loud mouth dad, compare the rookie year.

Player A
PPG 11.7 RPG 5.4 AST 7.7 FG% .385 3Pt% .272 STL 1.9 TO 3.2

Player B
PPG 10.2 RPG 6.9 AST 7.2 FG% .360 3PT% .305 STL 1.7 TO 2.6

Who is who?

(Hid the Free throw to not give it away it was .451 to.698 between them)


This team needs a PG, Lakers need someone to take Deng and are entertaining Moving Ball, so they may add Lebron and Leonard, I would certainly hate to miss out on the next Kidd, for taking Dengs horrible contract its a no brainer with all the weapons the Suns have now they just need a PG

That free throw percentage is a strong indication that Ball will forever be pure trash as a shooter, while Kidd evolved into one of the best 3pt shooters of all time.