This is the biggest one. Once we are way ahead, IS should be in there full time. Rest one of the starters.
What happened to Isaiah Simmons?
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This is the biggest one. Once we are way ahead, IS should be in there full time. Rest one of the starters.
Chopper0080
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This thread is 30 days old and now there is national media attention on it. How is the "be patient" crowd doing?
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this is starting to get really annoying.
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I was annoyed after week one VJ thinks he’s the smartest person in the room. We need to kick his ass to the curb like we did with McCoy. Both stubborn and useless
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I wanted his pathetic play calling ass canned halfway through last year. His defenses are the least innovative I’ve seen since the Bill Davis days.
shocker to find out he’s on the staff.. not.
Chopper0080
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Nothing new for those who know Vance, watched college football, and paid attention this year.
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come down off Mount Olympus Chopper. You’re not the all seeing God who was the only one worried about this.
Zeem_Freeze
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I was in the wait and see camp, but I am a bit nervous about all of this. I was disappointed Simmons couldn’t get on the field during garbage time with a 20 point lead. If he did get a bunch of reps last week and looked bad, then VJ may have a point. But we will never know unless the kid gets extended time on the field.
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This guy pulled no punches. Great analysis
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Never hire a coach who believes their scheme overrides the talent at their disposal
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I am baffled why isnt he playing safety
Id rather Budda play FS and move Simmons to SS
this is ridiculous
Id rather Budda play FS and move Simmons to SS
this is ridiculous
Jetstream Green
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I can't see why VJ does not use him on a few simple blitzes were his only responsibility is to shoot a gap and hit the QB. I heard I believe some here state that VJ does not like to bring heat up the middle but one would think with such a freak athlete you could find some means to contribute his talents from some point of the line of scrimmage
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So he is super talented and athletic. He is smart and has great football knowledge but isn’t ready.
Something is wrong here!
Cmon Kingsbury time to be a head coach!
Something is wrong here!
Cmon Kingsbury time to be a head coach!
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I am part of the crowd who at least wanted to wait until the halfway point of the season to pass judgement, but the fact that his snaps don't seem to be going up through 5 games is definitely worrying. His snap count needs to be going up significantly very soon or it could be a very bad sign.
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Is the sign that he isn't as good as we all thought, or something in the coaching? As soon as Isabella started playing more (this year) he started playing better.
You would think a young coach with a young-ish team would want their young players to grow and learn with the coach. That doesn't seem to be happening here for whatever reason.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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But that’s kind of my point. If you’re keim and you know you’ve got your two starting ILBs, and you know Vance isn’t creative enough to properly maximize a unique “eraser” then taking that guy is the wrong pick. And I’m still excited about him . . . as long as we don’t keep Vance long enough to ruin him. But even if Vance ruins him, the facts point to keim making a bad decision drafting him with the 8th pick if he had no chance at stardom (combo blocked path at position and poorly matched coach).
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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You don’t use the 8th pick on depth.
I've seen an article saying Campbell wants top ILB money and after this year we will let him go rather than overpay him and that we are grooming Simmons to replace Campbell at ILB.
Optimistic view? We've seen Vance drop Simmons back into a safety position before. Maybe hes waiting for Simmons to master the basics of his defense before using him more creatively.
Even I can't believe this. I think Vance trusts the system over players and doesnt recognize individual players strengths and weaknesses.
Optimistic view? We've seen Vance drop Simmons back into a safety position before. Maybe hes waiting for Simmons to master the basics of his defense before using him more creatively.
Even I can't believe this. I think Vance trusts the system over players and doesnt recognize individual players strengths and weaknesses.
As the podcast I linked yesterday says. Simmons is not a middle linebacker. If they are expecting Simmons to replace Campbell they are mistaken. He's a space player as they say, he's not physical enough to play down at the LOS.
They made the exact same mistake they made with Reddick. Like Reddick, Simmons at best is an OLD in a 4-3. But we don't play a 4-3 so here at best he's going to be a bit part player as a nickel backer.
He's a bigger, faster Kam Chancellor or A-Dub and we are ruining him as we speak.
They made the exact same mistake they made with Reddick. Like Reddick, Simmons at best is an OLD in a 4-3. But we don't play a 4-3 so here at best he's going to be a bit part player as a nickel backer.
He's a bigger, faster Kam Chancellor or A-Dub and we are ruining him as we speak.
Thank you CC, this is exactly my concern with Kingsbury, he doesn't fill the position of HC the way it needs to be handled.
SoonerLou
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Kliff does seem too deferential to Vance.
Ultimately though this is a Keim issue. Vance is Vance and Kliff's never been a winner even in college so he's just learning on the fly. Not a knock against Kliff as I think he can get it done, but 2nd year HC Kliff wont have the command as 6th year HC Kliff.
We're not so loaded defensively for this guy NOT to see the field in a meaningful way.
Chopper0080
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The point wasn't that I was the only one seeing this, the point was that writing was on the wall starting on draft day and throughout the entire offseason. People (more than just me) who vocalized early concern were not just using one week on info as the basis of their concern. They were using Cardinals draft history, history of our DC, and the words and actions of the coaches during the offseason and then all of those concerns were validated week 1 and 2.
