What is the current roster worth pick wise

[SweetD]

So I was thinking what would our current roster, signed players be an equal draft value. Just for fun, killing time before the draft

Maybe I stated it wrong. If these players were in the draft this year, were they might be picked. I don't see any team giving up this level of picks for the players. My BAD!

Childress - Late First Round (23+) - still has some potential but bad contract will drop his stock even further. It would take a team that wants to dump a bad contract and Childress would be filler to make it work.

Dudley - Lotto (8-16) - Great defender that can shoot the three would have been a top 5 pick if he had any type of hops.

Frye - Bottom Lottory (12+) - Big man that can stretch the floor, but not much deffence or athletic ability. Still would get good looks for bing able to shoot the rock...at least look good in workouts.

Gortot - Top 5 - Big man that can play D, set a mean pick and can finish at the rim. Progressing Mid rang jumper and great small contract.

Morris - Top 10 - Big man that can spread the floor and with some athletic ability. As shown can hold his own on Def but still is a project.

Warrick - Second Rounder - Can jump out of the building, but no Off or Deff awairness at all. Dleauge prospect that with time may break the rotation... To bad his time is up.

 

[Cheesebeef]

So I was thinking what would our current roster, signed players be an equal trade value. Just for fun, killing time before the draft

Childress - Late First Round (23+) - still has some potential but bad contract will drop his stock even further. It would take a team that wants to dump a bad contract and Childress would be filler to make it work.

i don't see it. The guy was out of the league for three years, hasn't been impressive on the Suns in the least and has a terrible contract for four more years. We'd have to give up picks to get rid of him at this point IMO.

Dudley - Lotto (8-16) - Great defender that can shoot the three would have been a top 5 pick if he had any type of hops.

I can see the low-end of that spectrum... bottom of the lotto to 16, but not as high as 8.

Frye - Bottom Lottory (12+) - Big man that can stretch the floor, but not much deffence or athletic ability. Still would get good looks for bing able to shoot the rock...at least look good in workouts.

bad contract plus one dimensional big man might get you a late first rounder, but I can't see anyone giving up a lotto pick for him, especially considering he's in his late 20's and is what he is at this point.

Gortot - Top 5 - Big man that can play D, set a mean pick and can finish at the rim. Progressing Mid rang jumper and great small contract.

I think he's more an 8-12 lotto pick. 5 is pretty high for Gortat in a really good draft.

Morris - Top 10 - Big man that can spread the floor and with some athletic ability. As shown can hold his own on Def but still is a project.

Morris went 13th last year and in a much weaker draft. don't see how he'd be looked at as having more value now.

Warrick - Second Rounder - Can jump out of the building, but no Off or Deff awairness at all. Dleauge prospect that with time may break the rotation... To bad his time is up.

worthless. somewhat big contract for a guy who can't stay on the floor and is older.

 

[JCSunsfan]

There is nothing wrong with Frye's contract. He is a mobile, productive big man on a decent deal. His game is improving. Considering he played last year with a bad shoulder, I look forward to good things next year. If Budinger is a #18, Frye would be in the 10-15 range.
Gortat is top 5.
Morris would be about #13.
It would take a late first rounder to go with Childress to move his contract. Not necessary though because he will be amnestied.
Dudley is not a valuable as people think. Maybe #13 or so.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Some of you are just delusional. If you asked for a top 10-15 pick for Frye, an NBA GM would wait to laugh their asses off before hanging up.

At best, he's neutral value, with a harder cap, he's definitely negative value. You're not getting anything for Frye. Nor are you getting anything for Chilz or Warrick.

Dud for a lottery pick? No chance. He's an ok bench guy with a decent contract, maybe 15-20.

Gortat for 8-12 is possible, but he's worth more to us than that.

Let's face it, we have maybe 2 players on our entire roster that anyone would want. We're not going to be rebuilding through trades unless we're taking on more horrendous contracts.

 

[SweetD]

Maybe I stated it wrong. If these players were in the draft this is what they were they might be picked. I don't see any team giving up this level of picks for the players. My BAD!

 

[Mainstreet]

Maybe I stated it wrong. If these players were in the draft this is what they were they might be picked. I don't see any team giving up this level of picks for the players. My BAD!

I'm confused.

It sounds contradictory.

 

[Cheesebeef]

There is nothing wrong with Frye's contract. He is a mobile, productive big man on a decent deal. His game is improving.

i just don't see it that way. Frye is 28. he is what he is. A streak shooting perimeter big man with a long-term deal for too much money. I don't think it would take picks to get rid of him, but I'd be stunned if he garnered anything higher than a late round pick, mostly because teams with higher picks have very little use for a guy who's hit his ceiling already, especially when that ceiling is relatively low.

Considering he played last year with a bad shoulder, I look forward to good things next year. If Budinger is a #18, Frye would be in the 10-15 range.

i think some of you really underrate youth and what NBA people look at as the potential of youth. Buddinger is a natural SF who's still very young, thus I think most NBA teams look at a guy who's a solid player and still has some upside... not to mention a cheap contract. This is the exact opposite of Frye, who doesn't have a natural position, isn't young and has a long-term deal that most people think is out of whack with his worth.

Gortat is top 5.
Morris would be about #13.

how would Morris be 13? he showed very little this year and most people thought he was a bit of a reach at 13 last year in a much worse draft.

It would take a late first rounder to go with Childress to move his contract. Not necessary though because he will be amnestied.
Dudley is not a valuable as people think. Maybe #13 or so.

I think Duds has more value than anyone else on the team who's under contract save Gortat.

 

[82CardsGrad]

There is nothing wrong with Frye's contract. He is a mobile, productive big man on a decent deal. His game is improving. Considering he played last year with a bad shoulder, I look forward to good things next year. If Budinger is a #18, Frye would be in the 10-15 range.
Gortat is top 5.
Morris would be about #13.
It would take a late first rounder to go with Childress to move his contract. Not necessary though because he will be amnestied.
Dudley is not a valuable as people think. Maybe #13 or so.

Seriously?? Productive and improving?? Man I don't see it that way at all! The guy is truly one of the softest 6-11 big guy I have ever seen at the NBA level. 7 years in the league now, and he can barely average 10 points a game and 5 rebounds. Every big man in the league abuses him...
I'm so done watching our #4 play from behind the arc. Done...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Some of you are just delusional. If you asked for a top 10-15 pick for Frye, an NBA GM would wait to laugh their asses off before hanging up.

At best, he's neutral value, with a harder cap, he's definitely negative value. You're not getting anything for Frye. Nor are you getting anything for Chilz or Warrick.

Dud for a lottery pick? No chance. He's an ok bench guy with a decent contract, maybe 15-20.

Gortat for 8-12 is possible, but he's worth more to us than that.

Let's face it, we have maybe 2 players on our entire roster that anyone would want. We're not going to be rebuilding through trades unless we're taking on more horrendous contracts.

Harsh... but, reality often is...

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Harsh... but, reality often is...

Hey, trust me, I'm as pissed off about it as anyone...my favorite team has been systematically dismantled into one of the laughing stocks of the league. Couldn't be more disappointed about how things have changed.

 

[SweetD]

This team was tough to watch last year. I am with you too, but maybe I just have too much time on my hands this week.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hey, trust me, I'm as pissed off about it as anyone...my favorite team has been systematically dismantled into one of the laughing stocks of the league. Couldn't be more disappointed about how things have changed.

Ditto...

 

[az jam]

The reality is that teams don't want to give up good first round draft choices for bench players. Take off the rose colored glasses, the Suns are a team and organization that is mediocre.

 

[Mainstreet]

The reality is that teams don't want to give up good first round draft choices for bench players. Take off the rose colored glasses, the Suns are a team and organization that is mediocre.

This all all circles back to why the Suns traded Larry Nance. They needed to trade Nance, perhaps like Gortat, to upgrade their talent.

 

[JCSunsfan]

This all all circles back to why the Suns traded Larry Nance. They needed to trade Nance, perhaps like Gortat, to upgrade their talent.

The Suns got four eventual starters back in that trade. KJ, Ty Corbin, Mark West, and the pick that became Dan Majerle.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Suns got four eventual starters back in that trade. KJ, Ty Corbin, Mark West, and the pick that became Dan Majerle.

unfortunately, Gortat isn't even close to being the talent that was Larry Nance who the year prior to the trade averaged 21 ppg, 10 rebounds and 3 assists and 2.4 blocks, had already made an All-Star team and was one of the best defenders in the league.

 

[sunsfan88]

Doesn't our roster look sexy?

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[Matt L]

IF we could get a pick in the 15-20 for Dudley I really do not see any reason why we wouldn't do it.

Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Arnett Moutrie, Tony Wroten are all players who have warts but also have upside in spades. I like Dudley and what he brings but I do not like him as a starter and I do think his skillset and production is replaceable.

 

[sunsfan88]

IF we could get a pick in the 15-20 for Dudley I really do not see any reason why we wouldn't do it.

Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Arnett Moutrie, Tony Wroten are all players who have warts but also have upside in spades. I like Dudley and what he brings but I do not like him as a starter and I do think his skillset and production is replaceable.

Of course we can get a pick in the 15-20 for Dudley.

Chase freaking Budinger was just traded for the #18 pick....Dudley should EASILY be able to net us a top 15 pick.