What QB Will We Draft in 1st Round?

[MaoTosiFanClub]

My guess is we'll probably pick somewhere between six and twelve overall but for sake of conversation let's assume everyone is still on the board at QB.

 

[Mulli]

I am already sad that <insert whoever the QB they draft is> didn't succeed because he caught hit too many times.

 

[Goldfield]

First round, Best OTackle... Second round Best OTackle... Third round best Guard/Center... Fourth round best Guard/Center... Repeat...

And I am a BPA advocate. But we are desperate.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

First round, Best OTackle... Second round Best OTackle... Third round best Guard/Center... Fourth round best Guard/Center... Repeat...

And I am a BPA advocate. But we are desperate.

At which point Larry Fitzgerald demands a trade to the Vikings.

We either get a QB this at some point between now and next August or we lose Fitz.

 

[jbeecham]

Whatever one is on the board when we pick @ #18-24

Followed by 4 OL picks

 

[jmt]

eff the draft already, it's only October.

 

[Phrazbit]

At which point Larry Fitzgerald demands a trade to the Vikings.

We either get a QB this at some point between now and next August or we lose Fitz.

I agree that we need a QB, but I absolutely guarantee Fitz will not even remotely attempt that kind of garbage.

 

[Shane]

At which point Larry Fitzgerald demands a trade to the Vikings.

We either get a QB this at some point between now and next August or we lose Fitz.

Fitz is under contract fir the next 7 years he aint going nowhere and has zero leverage. Fitz was behind aquiring kolb to boot. Why dream a fantasy thst has zero cjance of happening? I say we draft OL round 1 not a QB as well.

 

[Bodha]

I think Kolb with a good Oline could be decent.

Spend the entire 2013 draft on Oline.

I kid you not.

 

[Goldfield]

At which point Larry Fitzgerald demands a trade to the Vikings.

We either get a QB this at some point between now and next August or we lose Fitz.

Fitz cannot demand anything he is locked up.

And you don't run a franchise around a WR. I don't care if it is Fitz.

 

[TJ]

Fitz is under contract fir the next 7 years he aint going nowhere and has zero leverage. Fitz was behind aquiring kolb to boot. Why dream a fantasy thst has zero cjance of happening? I say we draft OL round 1 not a QB as well.

Agree. Regardless of whom is behind center next season we have a glaring deficiency on the line, which will hinder ANY QBs production


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[Jetstream Green]

First round, Best OTackle... Second round Best OTackle... Third round best Guard/Center... Fourth round best Guard/Center... Repeat...

And I am a BPA advocate. But we are desperate.

This

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Agree. Regardless of whom is behind center next season we have a glaring deficiency on the line, which will hinder ANY QBs production


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If we do draft a QB in the first round he better be a very mobile QB or he will get killed.

 

[Jetstream Green]

At which point Larry Fitzgerald demands a trade to the Vikings.

We either get a QB this at some point between now and next August or we lose Fitz.

I would like to think Fitz knows as much, if not probably a whole lot more, about football than us which also leads me to believe he notices a problem obvious to us...THE CARDINALS HAVE A HORRID OL, which makes the QB extra crappy and his own ability to excel at WR extremely difficult (and the winning the game thing filters in too).

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Fitz cannot demand anything he is locked up.

And you don't run a franchise around a WR. I don't care if it is Fitz.

He actually could threaten to retire if he's not traded which is how I would think it would go. The guy is not going to hang around for the opportunity to get killed by some scrub throwing him high passes just like Warner wasn't going to hang around. Fitz is too smart and well-rounded of a person to let that happen. Either way this scenario would be carried out behind the scenes not through the media.

Sure Larry wants to win the Super Bowl. But he's also conservative with his money so he has enough to last several lifetimes, is a first ballot HOF'er, and would be instantly employed by one of many competiting media outlets. He could easily leverage that situation and I wouldn't blame him unless we address the QB position in an intelligent way.

 

[Shane]

He actually could threaten to retire if he's not traded which is how I would think it would go. The guy is not going to hang around for the opportunity to get killed by some scrub throwing him high passes just like Warner wasn't going to hang around. Fitz is too smart and well-rounded of a person to let that happen. Either way this scenario would be carried out behind the scenes not through the media.

Sure Larry wants to win the Super Bowl. But he's also conservative with his money so he has enough to last several lifetimes, is a first ballot HOF'er, and would be instantly employed by one of many competiting media outlets. He could easily leverage that situation and I wouldn't blame him unless we address the QB position in an intelligent way.

Boy are you really reaching.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Fitz is under contract fir the next 7 years he aint going nowhere and has zero leverage. Fitz was behind aquiring kolb to boot. Why dream a fantasy thst has zero cjance of happening? I say we draft OL round 1 not a QB as well.

Retirement is leverage. This isn't some idiot who barely graduated high school and has 14 cars and an entourage, Fitz could easily retire tomorrow and live what he considers a very full life.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Boy are you really reaching.

Ok, but see what happens if we decide to go into next year with another terrible (Skelton, Kolb) quarterback.

 

[Shane]

Ok, but see what happens if we decide to go into next year with another terrible (Skelton, Kolb) quarterback.

Fitz wants to be regarded as an all time great. He has that kind of drive. Youngest player to hit 10,000 and still young. He's not retiring anytime soon. I have yet to see aQB hang him out to dry this year? Can you reference it?

 

[crisper57]

Anyone who thinks a rookie QB is the answer behind this line hasn't been paying attention. You draft OL early and often. Kolb has shown me enough when he's allowed to remain upright. We can win with him under center if he isn't sacked 8 freaking times a game.

And our RB's would probably show me enough if they weren't constantly greeted in the backfield.

If you aren't in favor of OL in the first round, can you honestly expect a different outcome next season? We could have Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson behind this line and we'd have similar results. Don't go get another shiny weapon before figuring out how to protect it.

End of story.

 

[Mulli]

Anyone who thinks a rookie QB is the answer behind this line hasn't been paying attention. You draft OL early and often. Kolb has shown me enough when he's allowed to remain upright. We can win with him under center if he isn't sacked 8 freaking times a game.

And our RB's would probably show me enough if they weren't constantly greeted in the backfield.

If you aren't in favor of OL in the first round, can you honestly expect a different outcome next season? We could have Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson behind this line and we'd have similar results. Don't go get another shiny weapon before figuring out how to protect it.

End of story.

Not drafting a left tackle (if the right QB is available) does not mean the same craptastic line returns next year.

 

[crisper57]

Not drafting a left tackle (if the right QB is available) does not mean the same craptastic line returns next year.

No, we'll just go get the latest Pittsburgh retread and have similar results. We have to build a cohesive line, not just cobble one together.

Getting a rookie QB doesn't mean we'll improve the QB play either. There is no right QB behind a mediocre line and no team is going to let good OT's walk into free agency. We need to build that position through the draft.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

At which point Larry Fitzgerald demands a trade to the Vikings.

We either get a QB this at some point between now and next August or we lose Fitz.

We know what you'd do, which has no relationship to what Fitz might do.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Fitz wants to be regarded as an all time great. He has that kind of drive. Youngest player to hit 10,000 and still young. He's not retiring anytime soon. I have yet to see aQB hang him out to dry this year? Can you reference it?

If you haven't seen Skelton or Kolb throw high across the middle this year then I'm not sure what games you are watching. Most of those scrubs passes are off the mark.

Fitz is already regarded in the class of all-time greats you mention. Also keep in mind one of his closest friends and mentors is Kurt Warner who left $20 million on the table so he could live a full life after retirement. Not saying it's going to happen today or next week but the guy's simply not going to stick around and continue catching passes from terrible QB's for the next seven years. You just don't understand how he's built.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

We can either find one good QB that makes a bad line look better than they actually are or find five or six good offensive linemen that make a bad QB look better.

I'll go for the former.