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This FO is horrible. If we let Warner go and then what??? ALl the FA will be gone...and we will have all this money to do what with??? WHat a joke. IF we lose Warner to San Fran...you can argue Seattle and San Fran will be better. Because there is no one here that can prove to me How in the hell we will be better!

40 million under the cap and we are sitting here with our foot up are butt!!!

My biggest beef is if we are not going to sign him...then we can use that money in other areas...BUT THEY ALL WE BE GONE!!!!

And if Warner leaves...than you must pay Boldin 10 million...or we will force us to trade him...and guess what...No team will give us good compensation.
 

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when I drove by today, I could have swore I saw a sign at the headquarters saying "Closed until April"
 

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This FO is horrible. If we let Warner go and then what??? ALl the FA will be gone...and we will have all this money to do what with??? WHat a joke. IF we lose Warner to San Fran...you can argue Seattle and San Fran will be better. Because there is no one here that can prove to me How in the hell we will be better!

40 million under the cap and we are sitting here with our foot up are butt!!!

My biggest beef is if we are not going to sign him...then we can use that money in other areas...BUT THEY ALL WE BE GONE!!!!

And if Warner leaves...than you must pay Boldin 10 million...or we will force us to trade him...and guess what...No team will give us good compensation.

Why do people still say we have 40 mill in cap space. That was a month ago before we handed out tenders and signed enough players to get to the 51 players that count against the cap. We have half that now.

All the free agents will be gone by Monday? No they wont, not by a long shot.

Kurt isnt even gone yet but people still want to prematurly pee in their cheerios.
 

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Why do people still say we have 40 mill in cap space. That was a month ago before we handed out tenders and signed enough players to get to the 51 players that count against the cap. We have half that now.

All the free agents will be gone by Monday? No they wont, not by a long shot.

Kurt isnt even gone yet but people still want to prematurly pee in their cheerios.


Beat me to it...

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Why do people still say we have 40 mill in cap space. That was a month ago before we handed out tenders and signed enough players to get to the 51 players that count against the cap. We have half that now.

All the free agents will be gone by Monday? No they wont, not by a long shot.

Kurt isnt even gone yet but people still want to prematurly pee in their cheerios.


We still have 24 million under the cap and that will be 31 if we let Warner go...and 36 million if we cut Edge!!!!

ANd Warner is flying to San Fran to visit the 49ers.....If that happens and they throw 14 million at him...and say here it is sign now or we take it off....then what??? Lienart HASNT PROVED anything...we just went to the Super Bowl!!!!!! we were not 6-10.....Our team is falling apart just like 1999!!!!!! Makes no sense!!!!
 

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This FO is horrible. If we let Warner go and then what??? ALl the FA will be gone...and we will have all this money to do what with??? WHat a joke. IF we lose Warner to San Fran...you can argue Seattle and San Fran will be better. Because there is no one here that can prove to me How in the hell we will be better!

40 million under the cap and we are sitting here with our foot up are butt!!!

My biggest beef is if we are not going to sign him...then we can use that money in other areas...BUT THEY ALL WE BE GONE!!!!

And if Warner leaves...than you must pay Boldin 10 million...or we will force us to trade him...and guess what...No team will give us good compensation.



chill out i don't blame the FO for not giving warner 14-16 million
 

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Why do people still say we have 40 mill in cap space. That was a month ago before we handed out tenders and signed enough players to get to the 51 players that count against the cap. We have half that now.

All the free agents will be gone by Monday? No they wont, not by a long shot.

Kurt isnt even gone yet but people still want to prematurly pee in their cheerios.

many of the guys we resigned are dead weight on the roster!!!
 

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Why do people still say we have 40 mill in cap space. That was a month ago before we handed out tenders and signed enough players to get to the 51 players that count against the cap. We have half that now.

All the free agents will be gone by Monday? No they wont, not by a long shot.

Kurt isnt even gone yet but people still want to prematurly pee in their cheerios.

Hard to argue this Warner thing could be preventing the front office from being more active.
 

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We still have 24 million under the cap and that will be 31 if we let Warner go...and 36 million if we cut Edge!!!!

ANd Warner is flying to San Fran to visit the 49ers.....If that happens and they throw 14 million at him...and say here it is sign now or we take it off....then what??? Lienart HASNT PROVED anything...we just went to the Super Bowl!!!!!! we were not 6-10.....Our team is falling apart just like 1999!!!!!! Makes no sense!!!!

Kurt isnt under contract so how does him leaving give us 7 million extra cap space.

Edge isnt cut yet becuase Hightower is the only other RB on the roster. You dont just drop a guy without having someone to take his place first.

A lot of "IFS" isnt it. People are getting mad at "ifs". People are getting mad at things that may or may not even happen yet? Thats how Ulcers happen.

Losing Kurt and A. Smith wouldnt even come close to the massive departure that was 1999.
 

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many of the guys we resigned are dead weight on the roster!!!

Whats your point. Its the same for the rest of the league who has over 51 players signed. Teams have to have 80 for mini camps you know and most of them will be scrubs.

You cant have a team full of super stars from #1 all the way down to #51 and beyond.
 

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Worst case scenario if Kurt leaves we should go after Leftwich to battle Leinart for the starting job, he shouldn't cost much to sign and would be a nice back up to Matty like he was to Big Ben.
 

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Kurt isnt under contract so how does him leaving give us 7 million extra cap space.

Edge isnt cut yet becuase Hightower is the only other RB on the roster. You dont just drop a guy without having someone to take his place first.

A lot of "IFS" isnt it. People are getting mad at "ifs". People are getting mad at things that may or may not even happen yet? Thats how Ulcers happen.

Losing Kurt and A. Smith wouldnt even come close to the massive departure that was 1999.

Don't forget about the RB who is now going to "tear it up" in Denver!!! LMAO!!! :D
 

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Hard to argue this Warner thing could be preventing the front office from being more active.

It is hard to argue. This isnt like Fitz situation last year were his contract made us not have any cap space. They cuold offer him 14 mill his first year and still have 10 mill. It isnt a hinderence at all.

They are waiting until the overpriced will never live up to their contracts free agents are done with over the week end. They did it last year. For the most part its what the Pats and Pitt do as well. All the PAts have done is trade away their #2 QB starting LB for a #2, and sign old man Fred Taylor. Pitt hasnt done anything yet either. Its because theya re smart enough to wait for the overpriced never live up to their contrac guys are taken up forst then swoop in and sign the Hoods, Gandys, Robinsons, and Hagans of the world, all the while having the most playoff success.
 
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Worst case scenario if Kurt leaves we should go after Leftwich to battle Leinart for the starting job, he shouldn't cost much to sign and would be a nice back up to Matty like he was to Big Ben.


LOL worse case scenerio is Lienart starting. Remember everybody..Warner beat him out and took us to the Super Bowl. What are the odds we go back to the Super Bowl with a different QB????? Like that has happened ever before. You dont throw away a guy who did what Warner did. ANd then think a guy who hasnt done squat to have a pro bowl season.
 

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It is hard to argue. This isnt like Fitz situation last year were his contract made us not have any cap space. They cuold offer him 14 mill his first year and still have 10 mill. It isnt a hinderence at all.

They are waiting until the overpriced will never live up to their contracts free agents are done with over the week end. They did it last year. For the most part its what the Pats and Pitt do as well. All the PAts have done is trade away their #2 QB starting LB for a #2, and sign old man Fred Taylor. Pitt hasnt done anything yet either. Its because theya re smart enough to wait for the overpriced never live up to their contrac guys are taken up forst then swoop in and sign the Hoods, Gandys, Robinsons, and Hagans of the world, all the while having the most playoff success.

So you believe the Cardinals approach to free agency would be exactly the same if they had already decided not to sign Warner. I don't agree at all.

Could use Warner money on Ward, a LB etc.
 
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It is hard to argue. This isnt like Fitz situation last year were his contract made us not have any cap space. They cuold offer him 14 mill his first year and still have 10 mill. It isnt a hinderence at all.

They are waiting until the overpriced will never live up to their contracts free agents are done with over the week end. They did it last year. For the most part its what the Pats and Pitt do as well. All the PAts have done is trade away their #2 QB starting LB for a #2, and sign old man Fred Taylor. Pitt hasnt done anything yet either. Its because theya re smart enough to wait for the overpriced never live up to their contrac guys are taken up forst then swoop in and sign the Hoods, Gandys, Robinsons, and Hagans of the world, all the while having the most playoff success.


LOL Pitt hasnt done anything because they WON the SUper Bowl and their whole team is back. Yet te team who made it there too...is losing parts off of it everyday and may let the main part go to a team in our own division. Yet you think we are playing smart. mmmmm 25 million, 40 million whatever million...tell me 3 players left in FA that will keep us a Super Bowl contender ...if Warner leaves.....ANd Lienart hasnt done anything...we havent won more than 5 games with HIM!!!
 
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So you believe the Cardinals approach to free agency would be exactly the same if they had already decided not to sign Warner. I don't agree at all.

Could use Warner money on Ward, a LB etc.


Completely agree....I want Warner back...BUT if they are not going to sign him..then that is 12 million that can go somehwere to help us and make up for losing him....The point is...sitting on our butt...all the good FA will be gone!!!
 

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So you believe the Cardinals approach to free agency would be exactly the same if they had already decided not to sign Warner. I don't agree at all.

Could use Warner money on Ward, a LB etc.

Once again they already have the money to do just that as you suggest.
 

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They are waiting until the overpriced will never live up to their contracts free agents are done with over the week end. They did it last year.

I have to agree with you Joe. Throwing big money at FA's does not always equate with getting good value. I like what we did last year and I am not in a panic mode.
 

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LMAO. Teams build through the draft. I can't believe how naive fans are during FA. Look at the four AFC/NFC Championship teams and tell me if they were built through the draft or FA. The answer is EASY. This team just won the NFC Title and was seconds away from a Super Bowl ring. They could use some upgrades, but not by money whipping players. They will upgrade by signing value FA and drafting well. We are close. They have a plan. The main focus should be on re-signing Wilson and altering contracts on Boldin, Rolle, Dansby, and Dockett. And guess what? None of those deals need to be done by this week. Just because you are all bored doesn't mean that the FO needs to rush into anything. When Dansby re-signs, that will be bigger in value than any other FA signing they could have made this far. FA is the most overrated concept in building an NFL team. It is candy for fans but holds little substance when it comes to winning. Just ask the village idiot Daniel Snyder how it has worked out since he bought the Redskins. That is what everyone here wants...a idiot owner who just throws around cash. I for one am thrilled with the direction of this team under Bidwill Jr. and Whiz. If Warner signs for anything over 12 million with any other team, it will confirm my faith in the leadership that they weren't suckered into such a garbage deal. GO CARDINALS.
 
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LMAO. Teams build through the draft. I can't believe how naive fans are during FA. Look at the four AFC/NFC Championship teams and tell me if they were built through the draft or FA. The answer is EASY. This team just won the NFC Title and was seconds away from a Super Bowl ring. They could use some upgrades, but not by money whipping players. They will upgrade by signing value FA and drafting well. We are close. They have a plan. The main focus should be on re-signing Wilson and altering contracts on Boldin, Rolle, Dansby, and Dockett. And guess what? None of those deals need to be done by this week. Just because you are all bored doesn't mean that the FO needs to rush into anything. When Dansby re-signs, that will be bigger in value than any other FA signing they could have made this far. FA is the most overrated concept in building an NFL team. It is candy for fans but holds little substance when it comes to winning. Just ask the village idioy Daniel Snyder how it has worked out since he bough the Redskins. That is what everyone here wants...a idiot owner who just throws around cash. I for one am thrilled with the direction of this team under Bidwill Jr. and Whiz. If Warner signs for anything over 12 million with any other team, it will confirm my faith in the leadership that they weren't suckered into such a garbage deal. GO CARDINALS.


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LOL Pitt hasnt done anything because they WON the SUper Bowl and their whole team is back. Yet te team who made it there too...is losing parts off of it everyday and may let the main part go to a team in our own division. Yet you think we are playing smart. mmmmm 25 million, 40 million whatever million...tell me 3 players left in FA that will keep us a Super Bowl contender ...if Warner leaves.....ANd Lienart hasnt done anything...we havent won more than 5 games with HIM!!!

What Parts have we lost so far. A DE whom we already have guys in place for and a bad Return man and #3 RB? Who else so far?

First what does winning the Super Bowl have to do with it. They dont want to go again next year I guess. If your not getting better your getting worse in this league.

There whole team is back huh? Someone called McFadden who is coming to town. Starting OT Marvel Smith, Their main OL backup Tria Essex, WR Nate Washington, Nickel Back Fernando Bryant, OT - Willie Colon, Starting FS Anthony Smith, #2 QB Byron Leftwich, TE - McHugh, Sean,

So so far they havent re-sgned their Starting FS, #2 TE, #2 QB, Staring OT, three out of their top 7 OL in total, #3 WR. And their whole team is back. If their whole team is back then our whole team is back. And thats just a partial list of the guys they havent re-signed yet.

Why would I give you 3 players in free agency for a situation that has yet to occur? And there are plenty of them still. IF Kurt leaves, If Matt still doesnt have what it takes. Way to many ifs to get pissed off about yet. They havent even happened yet yet your having a melt down.
 
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LOL Pitt hasnt done anything because they WON the SUper Bowl and their whole team is back. Yet te team who made it there too...is losing parts off of it everyday and may let the main part go to a team in our own division. Yet you think we are playing smart. mmmmm 25 million, 40 million whatever million...tell me 3 players left in FA that will keep us a Super Bowl contender ...if Warner leaves.....ANd Lienart hasnt done anything...we havent won more than 5 games with HIM!!!

Their whole team is back? Aren't two of their players visiting the Cards on Sunday?

And believe it or not, if Pittsburg was the best team in the NFL last year, guess who was the second best?

Have a little patience. Nothing has blown up yet and we are only 24 hours into FA.
 

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Their whole team is back? Aren't two of their players visiting the Cards on Sunday?

And believe it or not, if Pittsburg was the best team in the NFL last year, guess who was the second best?

Have a little patience. Nothing has blown up yet and we are only 24 hours into FA.

Its funny 40 I was the one making these rants just 2-3 years ago.
 
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