What's the deal with DJ Humphries?

[AZCrazy]

Quit acting like butt hurt school girls. Humphries is our LT of the future once Veldheer is shown the door in a year and a half. Until then, what do you want to do, activate him for no reason? Boot out someone who we might actually use in a game?

 

[Bert]

The only people who ALWAYS expect 1st rounders to start immediately and make an impact are fans.

 

[ajcardfan]

The only people who ALWAYS expect 1st rounders to start immediately and make an impact are fans.

Is it too much to ask, whether he has been suited up or not he's done it at every game, that he doesn't race to sit on the golf cart in front of the fricking fan every time the oline comes to the bench?

 

[Bert]

Is it too much to ask, whether he has been suited up or not he's done it at every game, that he doesn't race to sit on the golf cart in front of the fricking fan every time the oline comes to the bench?

lol! Touche

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

This thread is nonsense. Calling a guy a bust 4 games into his career is nonsense. He plays OT and you can only suit up so many on Sundays. Massie and Veldheer start with Watford the main backup. Shipley playing fullback also in short yardage takes up another spot. Larsen went from starting to inactive last week.

I guess everyone is use to the Rod Graves-talent roster levels where they drafted rookies to start. DJ is a 21 year old with the long arms, feet, size, and athletic ability that you look for in a LT.

Complaining about him not playing is just looking for something to complain about. We should be glad he's not starting because that means there's talent on the roster where he can develop and earn his spot.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

This thread is nonsense. Calling a guy a bust 4 games into his career is nonsense. He plays OT and you can only suit up so many on Sundays. Massie and Veldheer start with Watford the main backup. Shipley playing fullback also in short yardage takes up another spot. Larsen went from starting to inactive last week.

I guess everyone is use to the Rod Graves-talent roster levels where they drafted rookies to start. DJ is a 21 year old with the long arms, feet, size, and athletic ability that you look for in a LT.

Complaining about him not playing is just looking for something to complain about. We should be glad he's not starting because that means there's talent on the roster where he can develop and earn his spot.

It begs the question if we had drafted a QB in that spot would we be expecting him to be starting over Palmer at this point? I would think that most of us wouldn't have that expectation, maybe we would next year, but not this year.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

It begs the question if we had drafted a QB in that spot would we be expecting him to be starting over Palmer at this point? I would think that most of us wouldn't have that expectation, maybe we would next year, but not this year.

I agree. If Humphries isn't starting next year, then there's every right to be concerned. Not playing right now, and worrying about it, makes little sense. I guess people may be happier if he was "active" but didn't play.

I still think next year that Humphries will start at LT and Veldheer will move to the right side.

 

[CardinalMan]

This thread is nonsense. Calling a guy a bust 4 games into his career is nonsense. He plays OT and you can only suit up so many on Sundays. Massie and Veldheer start with Watford the main backup. Shipley playing fullback also in short yardage takes up another spot. Larsen went from starting to inactive last week.

I guess everyone is use to the Rod Graves-talent roster levels where they drafted rookies to start. DJ is a 21 year old with the long arms, feet, size, and athletic ability that you look for in a LT.

Complaining about him not playing is just looking for something to complain about. We should be glad he's not starting because that means there's talent on the roster where he can develop and earn his spot.

Agreed. This is a non-issue for us, some teams have no choice but to start a rookie. Not the case with us. Certain very rare talents like Walter Jones or Jonathan Ogden can replace a veteran as a rookie.

 

[Stout]

I don't think it's too much to wonder out loud why your #1 pick could be a healthy inactive for 12+ games.

Yep.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Plus, Arians pretty much let everyone know his take on younger players when he was asked the RB pecking order in regard to DJohnson now that Ellington is back. His response was, "it's easy, the young guy is last." Or something to that effect.

 

[Zeno]

This "First round OT don't play" is nonsense.

I went back and looked at first and second round OT's picked since 2010...

Broken down in to Games played/games started
2010 Draft
4th pick Trent Williams 14/13
6th Russell Okung 10/10
11th Anthony Davis 16/16
23rd Bryan Bulaga 16/12
33rd Rodger Saffold 16/16
61 Vlad Ducasse 2/0
64 Charles Brown 2/0

2011 Draft
9th Tyron Smith 16/16
17th Nate Solder 16/13
22nd Anthony Castonzo 12/12
25th James Carpenter 9/9
29th Gabe Carimi 2/2
32nd Derrek Sherrod 5/0
46th Orlando Franklin 16/16
49th Ben Ijalana 4/0
63 Marcus Gilbert 14/13

2012 Draft
4th Matt Kalil 16/16
23rd Riley Reiff 16/8
37th Mitchell Swartz 16/16
41st Cordy Glenn 13/13
42nd Jonathan Martin 16/16
44th Jeff Allen 16/13
56th Mike Adams 10/6
60th Kelechi Osemele 16/16

2013 Draft
1st Eric Fisher 14/13
2nd Luke Joeckel 5/5 (started first 5 ended up on IR)
4th Lane Johnson 16/16
11th DJ Fluker 15/15
19th Justin Pugh 16/16
42nd Menelik Watson 5/3

2014 Draft
2nd Greg Robinson 16/12
6th Jake Matthews 15/15
11th Taylor Lewan 11/6
16th Zack Martin 16/16
19th Ja'Wuan James 16/16
35th Joel Bintonio 16/16
44th Cyrus Kouandjo 1/0
59th Jack Mewhart 14/14
64th Justin Britt 16/16

To me it is very concerning he isn't even active on game day, even more worrying to me is that he can't beat out Bradley Sowell. Look at that list of drafted OTs, the ones you see without many games played as rookies for the most part end up being back ups at best.

No he isn't a bust yet but all signs don't point to him being worthy of his draft status yet either.

 

[BigRedRage]

Who cares what he does on twitter?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

This "First round OT don't play" is nonsense.

I went back and looked at first and second round OT's picked since 2010...

Broken down in to Games played/games started
2010 Draft
4th pick Trent Williams 14/13
6th Russell Okung 10/10
11th Anthony Davis 16/16
23rd Bryan Bulaga 16/12
33rd Rodger Saffold 16/16
61 Vlad Ducasse 2/0
64 Charles Brown 2/0

2011 Draft
9th Tyron Smith 16/16
17th Nate Solder 16/13
22nd Anthony Castonzo 12/12
25th James Carpenter 9/9
29th Gabe Carimi 2/2
32nd Derrek Sherrod 5/0
46th Orlando Franklin 16/16
49th Ben Ijalana 4/0
63 Marcus Gilbert 14/13

2012 Draft
4th Matt Kalil 16/16
23rd Riley Reiff 16/8
37th Mitchell Swartz 16/16
41st Cordy Glenn 13/13
42nd Jonathan Martin 16/16
44th Jeff Allen 16/13
56th Mike Adams 10/6
60th Kelechi Osemele 16/16

2013 Draft
1st Eric Fisher 14/13
2nd Luke Joeckel 5/5 (started first 5 ended up on IR)
4th Lane Johnson 16/16
11th DJ Fluker 15/15
19th Justin Pugh 16/16
42nd Menelik Watson 5/3

2014 Draft
2nd Greg Robinson 16/12
6th Jake Matthews 15/15
11th Taylor Lewan 11/6
16th Zack Martin 16/16
19th Ja'Wuan James 16/16
35th Joel Bintonio 16/16
44th Cyrus Kouandjo 1/0
59th Jack Mewhart 14/14
64th Justin Britt 16/16

To me it is very concerning he isn't even active on game day, even more worrying to me is that he can't beat out Bradley Sowell. Look at that list of drafted OTs, the ones you see without many games played as rookies for the most part end up being back ups at best.

No he isn't a bust yet but all signs don't point to him being worthy of his draft status yet either.

But, how many of those teams that drafted those tackles already had 2 incumbent starting tackles returning?

I can see the argument about Sowell but BA must have a soft spot for him because I don't see how he is any NFL roster.

 

[kerouac9]

But, how many of those teams that drafted those tackles already had 2 incumbent starting tackles returning?

I can see the argument about Sowell but BA must have a soft spot for him because I don't see how he is any NFL roster.

LOL. A year ago you were pretty sure that Sowell was going to be the starting RT for the Arizona Cardinals. Why was that? Because you didn't think that Arians was particularly endeared to Bobby Massie. Nothing's changed since then.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

This thread is nonsense. Calling a guy a bust 4 games into his career is nonsense. He plays OT and you can only suit up so many on Sundays. Massie and Veldheer start with Watford the main backup. Shipley playing fullback also in short yardage takes up another spot. Larsen went from starting to inactive last week.

I guess everyone is use to the Rod Graves-talent roster levels where they drafted rookies to start. DJ is a 21 year old with the long arms, feet, size, and athletic ability that you look for in a LT.

Complaining about him not playing is just looking for something to complain about. We should be glad he's not starting because that means there's talent on the roster where he can develop and earn his spot.

When our LB core and pass rush is such a joke it's a little hard to stomach wasting a 1st rd pick a dude who plays like an UFDA.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

LOL. A year ago you were pretty sure that Sowell was going to be the starting RT for the Arizona Cardinals. Why was that? Because you didn't think that Arians was particularly endeared to Bobby Massie. Nothing's changed since then.

This makes no sense to me and what does it have to do with anything?

I've always been a fan of Massie.

 

[Buckybird]

But, how many of those teams that drafted those tackles already had 2 incumbent starting tackles returning?

I can see the argument about Sowell but BA must have a soft spot for him because I don't see how he is any NFL roster.

Totally agree.

Guess we're the only 2 sane ones here. Lol

Btw I still think DJ will be a good player sooner than later. The reality is either Massie or Big Earl won't be on this roster next year.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

He was always considered a project way before the draft. His athleticism and potential for his age is why he was ranked and drafted so high. No, he was not BPA as far as being ready to start is concerned. But heck, we needed OL help desperately and kind of had to take someone high in the draft who could play right away to some degree if needed. He will be learning on the job a lot, but that is better than ignoring the need we had again.

 

[DVontel]

He was always considered a project way before the draft. His athleticism and potential for his age is why he was ranked and drafted so high. No, he was not BPA as far as being ready to start is concerned. But heck, we needed OL help desperately and kind of had to take someone high in the draft who could play right away to some degree if needed. He will be learning on the job a lot, but that is better than ignoring the need we had again.

We did? At Center? Sure. At Tackle? No.

More than ILB? That's a definite hell no.

 

[juza76]

I dont like The pick but Calais Campbell in his rookie season was invisible .hope he change his attitude meanwhile

 

[Finito]

The only center worth taking that high was Cam Erving and he went before we got up.

There was no outside LB left when it was our turn.

I went into that draft thinking
Danny Shelton
Cam Erving
Shane Ray
Bud Dupree
Arik Armstead
Melvin Gordon

And pretty much all those guys went in the 10 picks before us.

He was considered a project on draft night all kinds of physical talent the other parts aren't there yet. We actually a good and deep offensive line. I have no problem him sitting a year

 

[Jetstream Green]

The only center worth taking that high was Cam Erving and he went before we got up.

There was no outside LB left when it was our turn.

I went into that draft thinking
Danny Shelton
Cam Erving
Shane Ray
Bud Dupree
Arik Armstead
Melvin Gordon

And pretty much all those guys went in the 10 picks before us.

He was considered a project on draft night all kinds of physical talent the other parts aren't there yet. We actually a good and deep offensive line. I have no problem him sitting a year

This

 

[splitsecond]

A friend of mine has a brother who i the director of on-campus recruiting at Florida, and he swears that we will be happy with Humphries in the long run. Take that for whatever it is worth.

 

[Cardiac]

I agree with Cbus and Finito.

Getting a potential elite LT late in the 1st rd is great value.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I dont like The pick but Calais Campbell in his rookie season was invisible .hope he change his attitude meanwhile

Calais Campbell was very effective from the beginning of his first training camp on special teams. He was also a second round pick.