What's the deal with DJ Humphries?

[Timm Rosenbach]

We should be glad he's not starting because that means there's talent on the roster where he can develop and earn his spot.

The first round should not be for developmental players learning the position and their "spot."

 

[Shane]

I agree with Cbus and Finito.

Getting a potential elite LT late in the 1st rd is great value.

You've seen that potential?

 

[Cheesebeef]

is it Sunday yet?

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

is it Sunday yet?

Not for our first round pick

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The first round should not be for developmental players learning the position and their "spot."

I look at it as a good thing that he's not yet good enough to play. That means we have a pretty good set of tackles. I suspect if the Cards were not very good this year that he'd be in there taking his lumps, along with the QB.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

is it Sunday yet?

I agree. Can't wait for the Cards to win a game. People get crazy after a loss.

 

[Stout]

I agree. Can't wait for the Cards to win a game. People get crazy after a loss.

It has nothing to do with a loss. Healthy first round picks not activated for games are a big concern, no matter how some want to spin it.

 

[Finito]

It's not a concern. I know this might be hard for Cardinal fans to understand cause were just not used to it but we are really deep at offensive tackle. We have two very legit guys and Watford proved more than capable of stepping in if needed.

It's a good problem to have

 

[AZfaninMN]

It's not a concern. I know this might be hard for Cardinal fans to understand cause were just not used to it but we are really deep at offensive tackle. We have two very legit guys and Watford proved more than capable of stepping in if needed.

It's a good problem to have

I agree and if he is activated it would take a player like golden off of ST and we would have 10 active offensive lineman when the most we play is 6 at one time? Let him develop and next year he could be a starter or he gets beat out by Watford.

 

[Cardiac]

You've seen that potential?

I'm not a scout nor did I attend any of TC or practices. What I do know is that BASK have this belief and that's why they drafted him.

Positions of importance are:

QB, far and away the most important.
LT, to protect the most valuable player.

Some debate about CB and pass rusher, they are 3 and 4 on the list.

I get the concern because of the nickname he earned but he wasn't drafted to play this year. If could have beaten out Massie and Watford then awesome but he was needed to start.

 

[Harry]

As some of you know I'm based in Florida and have good access to info. I posted on draft day that the word out of Gainesville was Humphries was very immature and had a questionable work ethic. Some also questioned whether he really enjoyed the game. Those of you who've followed me through the years know that I think you can get good value by taking a shot at late maturing players. However, I don't like that strategy in the first 2 rounds. It is accurate to say Humphries has outstanding athletic ability for a player his size. I just think it's too big of a risk.

 

[eastcoastSUN]

I look at it as a good thing that he's not yet good enough to play. That means we have a pretty good set of tackles. I suspect if the Cards were not very good this year that he'd be in there taking his lumps, along with the QB.

You make some good points... My main argument is just the position (1st rd) he was taken in and the glaring holes we have on D this year. My mindset is that we are SO close this year and it can literally be the difference of a deep playoff run or not. My exasperation mainly comes from our LBs unable to contain their gaps - Krapernick running for that TD where Minter was five steps behind him... the bubble screens by the Saints and Gurley slashing us all over the field last week.

It's remarkable how Keim can hit homeruns in the middle to late rounds in the draft and completely whiff 1st/2nd rounders (D Buc notwithstading).

 

[NashDishesDimes]

I think the frustration stems more from the idea that they took a player that wasnt a huge position of need. When you do that, you typically expect the player to show something and be worth at least where the Cards picked him, hence the BPA idea.

Although i agree with most that it is rediculous to judge 4 games in, but there were reports early on that he wasnt trying and BA called him out, that is obviously not a good sign.

Could have taken someone to shore up the LBers, Cards wont be able to pay all these linemen long-term anyways.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

As some of you know I'm based in Florida and have good access to info. I posted on draft day that the word out of Gainesville was Humphries was very immature and had a questionable work ethic. Some also questioned whether he really enjoyed the game. Those of you who've followed me through the years know that I think you can get good value by taking a shot at late maturing players. However, I don't like that strategy in the first 2 rounds. It is accurate to say Humphries has outstanding athletic ability for a player his size. I just think it's too big of a risk.

Agreed. My scout friend said almost the exact same thing in that he's immature and needs to grow up. That being said, he liked the pick and thinks he'll be a very good player.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You make some good points... My main argument is just the position (1st rd) he was taken in and the glaring holes we have on D this year. My mindset is that we are SO close this year and it can literally be the difference of a deep playoff run or not. My exasperation mainly comes from our LBs unable to contain their gaps - Krapernick running for that TD where Minter was five steps behind him... the bubble screens by the Saints and Gurley slashing us all over the field last week.

It's remarkable how Keim can hit homeruns in the middle to late rounds in the draft and completely whiff 1st/2nd rounders (D Buc notwithstading).

Believe me, I badly wanted a rush end on defense over Humphries but him being inactive is completely irrelevant at this point in his career given the Cards current roster.

 

[DVontel]

You make some good points... My main argument is just the position (1st rd) he was taken in and the glaring holes we have on D this year. My mindset is that we are SO close this year and it can literally be the difference of a deep playoff run or not. My exasperation mainly comes from our LBs unable to contain their gaps - Krapernick running for that TD where Minter was five steps behind him... the bubble screens by the Saints and Gurley slashing us all over the field last week.

It's remarkable how Keim can hit homeruns in the middle to late rounds in the draft and completely whiff 1st/2nd rounders (D Buc notwithstading).

This right here 100%.

 

[Mainstreet]

You make some good points... My main argument is just the position (1st rd) he was taken in and the glaring holes we have on D this year. My mindset is that we are SO close this year and it can literally be the difference of a deep playoff run or not. My exasperation mainly comes from our LBs unable to contain their gaps - Krapernick running for that TD where Minter was five steps behind him... the bubble screens by the Saints and Gurley slashing us all over the field last week.

It's remarkable how Keim can hit homeruns in the middle to late rounds in the draft and completely whiff 1st/2nd rounders (D Buc notwithstading).

You make a good argument (except for certain outstanding players) to trade down in the draft. The more players the better with the Cardinals scouting. Sometimes I think in the first and sometimes second rounds GMs feel compelled to draft certain players based upon national hype for fear of making a mistake.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Dude, he sucks.

 

[MrYeahBut]

You make a good argument (except for certain outstanding players) to trade down in the draft. The more players the better with the Cardinals scouting. Sometimes I think in the first and sometimes second rounds GMs feel compelled to draft certain players based upon national hype for fear of making a mistake.

IMO, if you operate from a position of fear, you're setting yourself up to fail to begin with. I don't think that's how the front office does business now.

.

 

[pinetopred]

This is why gms lose jobs they take risks based on potential makes them look like a genius or a moron based on what a 21 23 yr old kid does. I would hate to have a job where a 21 or 22 yr old kid can make or break you

 

[Chopper0080]

To me, it is Jonathan Cooper all over again, but instead of a guy who was billed as a day one starter, we got a guy who was billed as a day one project.

Anyone who watched Humphries in college knows what type of athletic ability he has. It is just going to be up to him to maximize that talent. Maybe a year as a healthy scratch for a guy who has always been able to get bye on athletic talent will be the motivation that he needs. The Cardinals have a good locker room which could help push things that way.

What I do know is that I am happier to draft a guy like this when we have other options on the roster rather than drafting a guy like this with no other options.

 

[vince56]

To me, it is Jonathan Cooper all over again, but instead of a guy who was billed as a day one starter, we got a guy who was billed as a day one project.

I disagree, its completely different. Cooper was dominant in his first training camp, then injury hit. He wasn't himself last year b/c he wasn't 100%. Now he's back and playing very well. I still don't like taking a guard in the top 15, but I am happy with the pick considering how he's playing.

Humphries looked lost and was manhandled in the preseason. He needs to come down to earth and play the game.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

It's not a concern. I know this might be hard for Cardinal fans to understand cause were just not used to it but we are really deep at offensive tackle. We have two very legit guys and Watford proved more than capable of stepping in if needed.

It's a good problem to have

This is a great problem to have. No pressure up the middle, Sean Weatherspoon wasting a roster spot, questionable play at corner. But our offensive line is so "good" that or 1st rounder can't see the field

 

[gmabel830]

(Wrong thread)

 

[WildBB]

I see no problems, Goodwin demands precision, good technique and good communication - Humphries is raw and they stated they he would likely not play this year unless he can beat out a vet.

All these articles about how OLinemen coming out in the last decade take longer to transition to the pro game, and we are crying about our last OT when Watford and Massie are playing decent.

Yeah, he's basically an insurance policy for this year and starter material after he grows up some.

Don't know if they're gonna spend $$ on Massie in the off season either.

They'll have a couple of options now next year. In the draft as well, since you don't need to take a T,.