You can't forgive the total incompetence of not blitzing a rookie QB. I can't forget it and I can't get over it. This was as bad as the total coaching melt down in Minnesota in 98 in the playoffs. The team was totally unprepared for the noise. They were shell shocked. In a crucial game in the future, the poor coaching will again raise it's head. We've had enough warning. The slowness to adjust the O line, the slowness in getting Warner out of there, and the conservative melt down against Chicago. These are all warning signs. We can do better. Even if we win the last two, the move must be made.
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Regarding '98 they practiced all week with piped in sound, the problem was
they just couldn't stop the Vikings from scoring. that and you know who playing catch with the Viking secondary in the first quarter.
I think Tobin took way too much flack for that game though, the Vikings scored the most points in NFL history. Part of the problem is the only successful offense we could run that year was the no huddle, which is REALLY hard to do in such a loud environment.
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In that '98 Playoff game...the Cards took knives to a gunfight.
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Absolutely, that Viking team was so well coach.... so talented we really didn't belong on the field with them.
They set an NFL record for scoring, had great special teams, and it was the worst place for us to play since we relied so heavily on no huddle and that was so hard to do there.
Just like everyone else, we could NOT stop them, the only guy that could have stopped that team did in the conference finals, their own coach.
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Didn't Green Have Billick as his OC and Dungy as his DC then? Was Dungy gone by then, I don't think so, can't remember.
While we had Mac and who?
Talk about taking a squirt gun to a nuke fest.
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Dungy was Tampa's coach in 1996, but I believe Tyrone Willingham was still with the Vikings though....and yes, Billick was the OC in 98
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in addition, from wikipedia....
In the playoffs, the Vikings rolled past the Arizona Cardinals 41-21, and came into the Metrodome heavily favored for their NFC title showdown with the Atlanta Falcons, who had finished 14-2. However, kicker Gary Anderson, who had gone 35 for 35 in the regular season, missed a 38-yard attempt with less than 2 minutes remaining. That allowed the Falcons to tie the game. The Vikings had one more opportunity to score at the end of regulation, but Head Coach Dennis Green opted to down the ball and go to overtime (even though the Vikings had arguably the most potent offense in NFL history). Atlanta won the toss and went on to win it 30-27 in overtime on Morten Andersen's field goal, which was, coincidentally, also a 38-yarder. The Vikings became the first 15-1 team to fail to reach the Super Bowl.
In the playoffs, the Vikings rolled past the Arizona Cardinals 41-21, and came into the Metrodome heavily favored for their NFC title showdown with the Atlanta Falcons, who had finished 14-2. However, kicker Gary Anderson, who had gone 35 for 35 in the regular season, missed a 38-yard attempt with less than 2 minutes remaining. That allowed the Falcons to tie the game. The Vikings had one more opportunity to score at the end of regulation, but Head Coach Dennis Green opted to down the ball and go to overtime (even though the Vikings had arguably the most potent offense in NFL history). Atlanta won the toss and went on to win it 30-27 in overtime on Morten Andersen's field goal, which was, coincidentally, also a 38-yarder. The Vikings became the first 15-1 team to fail to reach the Super Bowl.
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Sometime after that '98 playoff game it seems like I remember that the Cardinals complained to the league office about the Vikes piping in some additional noise or loud music through the PA system in which the speakers for it sat very conviently and strategicaly near and around the playing field. Also behind the Cards bench as well. After that the league came down on the vikes and made them refrain from doing so. Something like that. So there is some legitimacy to the claim that the deck was stacked against them b4 that game ever started and not just the coaches and players involved.
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who was the coach of the 98 ViKings?
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You can't forgive the total incompetence of not blitzing a rookie QB.
You're onto something - but not totally.
Of course we should put pressure on the rook.
But if we blitzed all the time, a smart OC and a talented though young QB would simply dial up plays that could light us up.
I believe that's what Cutler did to us in preseason when we threw the kitchen sink at him.
But that doesn't excuse almost always rushing 4 and dropping 7. Clancy P should have mixed things up and disguised coverages more in order to confuse Cutler.
You're onto something - but not totally.
Of course we should put pressure on the rook.
But if we blitzed all the time, a smart OC and a talented though young QB would simply dial up plays that could light us up.
I believe that's what Cutler did to us in preseason when we threw the kitchen sink at him.
But that doesn't excuse almost always rushing 4 and dropping 7. Clancy P should have mixed things up and disguised coverages more in order to confuse Cutler.
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I don't think the intent with the statement was to "Buddy Ryan" him, however putting SOME pressure on the rookie would have forced a smart OC to actually have to change something. Just another example of a stagnant gameday coaching effort.
BTW, on a previous post, thanks for highlighting Denny's ineptitude in the '98 playoffs against the Falcons. I think that really drives the point of this thread home.
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Yes that happened, the league passed a rule about amplifying crowd noise or piping in additional noise IIRC.
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Dennis Green.
Not that we ever had a chance in that game but the Vikings were cheating with that sound system. There is a point, where the piped in music is supposed to stop so many seconds before the play and the Vikings or stadium staff or whoever, kept playing that piped in music beyond that point. The next week the league had people in the stadium that supposedly had clippers at the ready to cut the cables if the cheating continued. Ridiculous that the Vikes couldn't play it fair and square in a game where we literally had no chance anyway. The kind of BS that always flies in a game against the Cardinals. The league takes action in the next game.
