Where will Jimmy Butler end up? 2025 edition

[SirStefan32]

I don’t think it’s his choice. A player has to agree to sign with your team, and nobody any good wants to sign to a bad team, which we will certainly be.

I guess we'll see, but I don't see the Suns being a bad team. I think it would be reasonable to say they may not be a serious contender, but there is no way they will be bad.

 

[Covert Rain]

The really good players will have all kinds of teams wanting to pay them, those guys are not options for bad teams... which we will be.

You are painting a picture where we are the team that signs dudes like Kyle Kuzma and Jerami Grant 40 million a year.

And we won't be able to swing a meaningful trade for top talent for a long long time because of our total lack of assets, this we're already seeing. We've got a star going above and beyond to poison his relationship with his team to force his way here and it doesn't matter because the heat would be better off waiving him than taking the junk we can offer.

Yet Ishbia continues to maneuver when everyone says there at are no more options. We heard that for months leading up to him unlocking the next 6 drafts. Plus teams do things that scratch your head all the time.

Until I see him sit on his hands I have no reason to believe he will let the team bottom out. That doesn’t seem to be in his his vocabulary.

 

[GatorAZ]

Yet Ishbia continues to maneuver when everyone says there at are no more options. We heard that for months leading up to him unlocking the next 6 drafts. Plus teams do things that scratch your head all the time.

Until I see him sit on his hands I have no reason to believe he will let the team bottom out. That doesn’t seem to be in his his vocabulary.

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The Suns bottoming out may be out of his control. We’re a borderline playoff team at full health and our best player in season 18. Reminds me of the Kobe Lakers after their championships. Things just kept getting bleaker and bleaker until they were maxed out with old Kobe and mediocre role players.

 

[Covert Rain]

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The Suns bottoming out may be out of his control. We’re a borderline playoff team at full health and our best player in season 18. Reminds me of the Kobe Lakers after their championships. Things just kept getting bleaker and bleaker until they were maxed out with old Kobe and mediocre role players.

Absolutely could be out of his hands but IMO it won’t be because Ishbia sat on his.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yet Ishbia continues to maneuver when everyone says there at are no more options. We heard that for months leading up to him unlocking the next 6 drafts. Plus teams do things that scratch your head all the time.

Until I see him sit on his hands I have no reason to believe he will let the team bottom out. That doesn’t seem to be in his his vocabulary.

Again, that draft swap was just digging a deeper hole. Once more giving away something with high value and leveraging the future.

Ishbia being highly active is a huge problem so far. We’d be better off if he’d been sitting on his hands the last several years.

 

[Covert Rain]

Again, that draft swap was just digging a deeper hole. Once more giving away something with high value and leveraging the future.

Ishbia being highly active is a huge problem so far. We’d be better off if he’d been sitting on his hands the last several years.

You missed the point entirely. It shows that Ishbia even when people say he has nothing else up his sleeve keeps proving people wrong. Besides if he does what you said, it's a guarantee bottom out. I will put my faith in Ishbia being able to keep us competitive until the proof says otherwise.

 

[Germz249]

I just feel we could never be happy until we win championships..

We had a owner who didn’t spend money and people were pissed..

We have a owner who spends money and people are pissed..

 

[Cheesebeef]

I just feel we could never be happy until we win championships..

We had a owner who didn’t spend money and people were pissed..

We have a owner who spends money and people are pissed..

I was pretty happy with 2021 and most of 2022 until we bent over and let the Mavs spit-roast us.

For me, a title would be amazing, but I just want a fun team that can at least win a round or two or at least play a hell of a series and go down swinging in the end.

The only time I could walk away from any season during the last 15 years was when a CP3-led Suns squad, weird Covid year and a rash of injuries gave us a great playoff run that came up just short. That’s a REALLY long time to watch pretty uninspiring basketball for the most part.

 

[Superbone]

I just feel we could never be happy until we win championships..

We had a owner who didn’t spend money and people were pissed..

We have a owner who spends money and people are pissed..

Winning a championship might not even be enough.

 

[Covert Rain]

I was pretty happy with 2021 and most of 2022 until we bent over and let the Mavs spit-roast us.

For me, a title would be amazing, but I just want a fun team that can at least win a round or two or at least play a hell of a series and go down swinging in the end.

The only time I could walk away from any season during the last 15 years was when a CP3-led Suns squad, weird Covid year and a rash of injuries gave us a great playoff run that came up just short. That’s a REALLY long time to watch pretty uninspiring basketball for the most part.

I diverge a bit. A fun team is about as satisfying as a piece of Stripes gum that loses it's flavor after 10 minutes. It's just not good enough. However, I can live with a team that is fun, goes down swinging and had a legit chance even if they fall short. Anything else is window dressing.

 

[Mainstreet]

I just feel we could never be happy until we win championships..

We had a owner who didn’t spend money and people were pissed..

We have a owner who spends money and people are pissed..

That's the goal, but I was happy with the Nash led teams and the 2021 Finals appearance.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I just feel we could never be happy until we win championships..

We had a owner who didn’t spend money and people were pissed..

We have a owner who spends money and people are pissed..

For some here, yeah this is and has long been very true. But for some of us, just putting a team together that has a chance to grow into a title contender is enough for us. I've always loved following this team closely, this is one of the few seasons in the history of the Suns where I have found it a challenge to stay glued to the TV (or radio) every game. But we gambled unwisely in an effort to buy a championship, supposedly to win a title so now, it is win it all or who cares.

But to be clear, for most of us, not spending money wasn't what caused us to dislike Sarver. He was an embarrassment. And despite knowing less about basketball than the average casual fan, he acted as a key decision maker for the organization. We all want to like Ishbia and the fact that he has a solid basketball background and that money is not much of an issue for him are huge selling points for us. But spending stupid isn't any better than not being able to spend at all, in fact, it might even be worse.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don’t think it’s his choice. A player has to agree to sign with your team, and nobody any good wants to sign to a bad team, which we will certainly be.

Suns 29-53. Signed Steve Nash.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The really good players will have all kinds of teams wanting to pay them, those guys are not options for bad teams... which we will be.

You are painting a picture where we are the team that signs dudes like Kyle Kuzma and Jerami Grant 40 million a year.

And we won't be able to swing a meaningful trade for top talent for a long long time because of our total lack of assets, this we're already seeing. We've got a star going above and beyond to poison his relationship with his team to force his way here and it doesn't matter because the heat would be better off waiving him than taking the junk we can offer.

Or we could be a team with so much cap room that we can attract two top players and be a destination. Look, I know you’re dead set on us being among the worst teams in the nba years from now, but you should be intellectually honest and accept that there are some roads left to a creative owner who will SPEND. Will it happen? Who knows? Is it possible? Absolutely.

 

[CardNots]

not spending money wasn't what caused us to dislike Sarver

I’d like to enter into evidence Joe Johnson’s departure

 

[clyde2tw]

I’d like to enter into evidence Joe Johnson’s departure

And McDyce, Michael Finley