Where's Boldin?

[Black Jesus]

Is he out or sick this week? They keep running Fitz and Johnson together and Walters has been in the slot...

 

[vince56]

he caught 1 pass.

 

[PJ1]

Thought he had 2 catches in the half. He needs a big play for us in the second half. We need to score to win. Our D sucks.

 

[az1965]

He had 4 catches for 47 yards but was relatively quiet today.

 

[kerouac9]

Best Receiver in the NFL!!!!!!!

 

[dogpoo32]

Best Receiver in the NFL!!!!!!!

Man you have a vendetta. Who said he was the best in the NFL? He may be the best on this team, a team that has 2 top 8-10 recievers. He's the heart and soul. Even superman gets days off. Hell, I'll take Q over any WR in this league based on what he brings as a person and secondly as a WR.

 

[Assface]

Best Receiver in the NFL!!!!!!!

Today's performance is only slightly worse than Steve Smith's blistering 5 catches for 67 yards. Anquan is no Levar Fisher but he's still a pretty good football player.

 

[BigRedRage]

Best Receiver in the NFL!!!!!!!

i think he is, i saw him open deep 1 on 1 a few times and didnt get his look, you gonna jump on him for not busting over 100 yards every game? the man is relentless

 

[Assface]

i think he is, i saw him open deep 1 on 1 a few times and didnt get his look, you gonna jump on him for not busting over 100 yards every game? the man is relentless

K9's talent evaluation is based entirely on 40 times.

 

[Shane]

K9's talent evaluation is based entirely on 40 times.

His talent evaluation just isnt that good.

 

[kerouac9]

Man you have a vendetta. Who said he was the best in the NFL? He may be the best on this team, a team that has 2 top 8-10 recievers. He's the heart and soul. Even superman gets days off. Hell, I'll take Q over any WR in this league based on what he brings as a person and secondly as a WR.

Big Red Rage did. Right here.


EDIT: Anquan's had four big games (more than 100 yards or more than 5 catches) in 13 tries. In the process, he's scored 4 TDs, the same amount as Larry Fitzgerald in 4 fewer games. In the same number of games (or fewer), here's how some of the other WRs in the NFL have fared:

Torry Holt: 9 big games.
Ocho Cinco: 10 big games.
Steve Smith: 8 big games.
Javon Walker: 5 big games.
Marvin Harrison: 9 big games.
Reggie Wayne: 5 big games.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh: 7 big games.
Andre Johnson: 9 big games.
Lee Evans: 8 big games.
Braylon Edwards: 5 big games.
Larry Fitzgerald: 5 big games.

So, I guess that some Supermen take more days off than others? I don't even bust on him for not getting 100 yards every game, but I think I get the chance to bust on his jockers when--as has been the case nearly every time in the past--all of Anquan's big games this season have come in losses (StL, Chi, Min).

Anquan Boldin has fewer touchdowns than Joey Galloway. But I guess every team needs a mascot. sarcasm

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Big Red Rage did. Right here.


EDIT: Anquan's had four big games (more than 100 yards or more than 5 catches) in 13 tries. In the process, he's scored 4 TDs, the same amount as Larry Fitzgerald in 4 fewer games. In the same number of games (or fewer), here's how some of the other WRs in the NFL have fared:

Torry Holt: 9 big games.
Ocho Cinco: 10 big games.
Steve Smith: 8 big games.
Javon Walker: 5 big games.
Marvin Harrison: 9 big games.
Reggie Wayne: 5 big games.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh: 7 big games.
Andre Johnson: 9 big games.
Lee Evans: 8 big games.
Braylon Edwards: 5 big games.
Larry Fitzgerald: 5 big games.

So, I guess that some Supermen take more days off than others? I don't even bust on him for not getting 100 yards every game, but I think I get the chance to bust on his jockers when--as has been the case nearly every time in the past--all of Anquan's big games this season have come in losses (StL, Chi, Min).

Anquan Boldin has fewer touchdowns than Joey Galloway. But I guess every team needs a mascot. sarcasm

Is it Anquan you dont like, or the people that love him?

Some convienintly left out stats

Anquan is:

Top 10 in YPG for WR
Top 10 in YAC for WR
Top 10 in the NFL in First down receptions
7th in the NFL in receptions
9th in total yards

Of the guys you named above he is either tied or beats them all in at least one of the above statistical categories. Also, of the 11 players yu named above, 6 of their resprctive teams are under .500 Not exactly like their "big games" have done much to help their teams..

 

[dogpoo32]

Big Red Rage did. Right here.


EDIT: Anquan's had four big games (more than 100 yards or more than 5 catches) in 13 tries. In the process, he's scored 4 TDs, the same amount as Larry Fitzgerald in 4 fewer games. In the same number of games (or fewer), here's how some of the other WRs in the NFL have fared:

Torry Holt: 9 big games.
Ocho Cinco: 10 big games.
Steve Smith: 8 big games.
Javon Walker: 5 big games.
Marvin Harrison: 9 big games.
Reggie Wayne: 5 big games.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh: 7 big games.
Andre Johnson: 9 big games.
Lee Evans: 8 big games.
Braylon Edwards: 5 big games.
Larry Fitzgerald: 5 big games.

So, I guess that some Supermen take more days off than others? I don't even bust on him for not getting 100 yards every game, but I think I get the chance to bust on his jockers when--as has been the case nearly every time in the past--all of Anquan's big games this season have come in losses (StL, Chi, Min).

Anquan Boldin has fewer touchdowns than Joey Galloway. But I guess every team needs a mascot. sarcasm

Look at career numbers dude. What pace is Q on? How do you ignore his presence on the field? You will jump on any chance to bust on his jockers. Every team does need a mascot, our problem is that sour sports like you are ours. Get a friggin grip dude. Q is a cornerstone of this franchise. If you don't like it go cheer for a team with "winners." I've seen enough of your crap to realize all you want to do is argue. I don't know how you win this one.

 

[D-Dogg]

Best Receiver in the NFL!!!!!!!

Worst arguments on ASFN!

 

[D-Dogg]

K9's talent evaluation is based entirely on a crack pipe.

Fixed that for ya.

 

[D-Dogg]

But I guess every team needs a mascot. sarcasm

And we don't need guys like you to be ours. nosarcasm

 

[Shane]

Is it Anquan you dont like, or the people that love him?

Some convienintly left out stats

Anquan is:

Top 10 in YPG for WR
Top 10 in YAC for WR
Top 10 in the NFL in First down receptions
7th in the NFL in receptions
9th in total yards

Of the guys you named above he is either tied or beats them all in at least one of the above statistical categories. Also, of the 11 players yu named above, 6 of their resprctive teams are under .500 Not exactly like their "big games" have done much to help their teams..

Lets not forget that he has 329 reception in only 53 games. Completely shattering the next closest guy who is Marvin Harrison. Who only had about a 246 receptions after the same amount of games played.

 

[KingofCards]

K9 uses Madden Football to make his opinions.

 

[Shane]

K9 uses Madden Football to make his opinions.

Come on now he said he stopped doing that.

 

[KingofCards]

Come on now he said he stopped doing that.

I don't believe him.

 

[Goldfield]

He sure does bag on Q alot.

Odd...

 

[kerouac9]

Is it Anquan you dont like, or the people that love him?

Some convienintly left out stats

Anquan is:

Top 10 in YPG for WR
Top 10 in YAC for WR
Top 10 in the NFL in First down receptions
7th in the NFL in receptions
9th in total yards

Of the guys you named above he is either tied or beats them all in at least one of the above statistical categories. Also, of the 11 players yu named above, 6 of their resprctive teams are under .500 Not exactly like their "big games" have done much to help their teams..

Good question. I think that Anquan's a really, really good player. I agree with everyone here that he's the heart and soul of the offense, and if everyone on the team played with the intensity that Anquan does week in and week out, there's no way that this team is 4-9.

But. I don't think that a players needs to be the best on his unit to be the "heart and soul" of that unit. Look no further than the defense, where Robert Griffith is the leader of that side of the ball, but I don't think he's among the top half of the most talented players on that side (Wilson, Dockett, Dansby, Berry, Hayes, Okeafor, Clancy, etc. are all more talented than Griffith is--heck, Aaron Francisco and Calvin Pace are probably more talented than Griffith is). You can argue whether Griffith is among the most productive players on that side of the ball, or ranks among the top half.

What I generally don't like is haigiography. Anquan's a passionate player and a leader. But does he deserve the Pro Bowl honors that the guy on 890 was saying he deserved at the beginning of yesterday's game? Of course not. Is he among the top 5 at his position in the NFL? I don't think so. Is he in the Top 10? We'll let the numbers dictate that at the end of the season, among other things. I can say that at least FootballOutsiders.com seems to agree with me that Anquan's reputation among the fans on this board is undeserved. Last I checked, they had him ranked in the 20s.

I notice that you don't list the most meaningful stat for WRs, where I'm not sure if Anquan is in the Top 25: TDs. Those are the only thing that matter on the scoreboard (and I didn't even count multiple TD games in my "big games" metric). Anquan's not getting them now, and he's come disproportionally short in the end zone his entire career. I don't really understand how someone can say a player is "best in the NFL" when he doesn't find the endzone anywhere close to the number of times he ought to considering how often he sees the ball (and, no, Andre Johnson doesn't score enough, either).

Anquan is who he is, a guy who will give you about 6 receptions per game and maybe 80 yards and eventually with a running game maybe 8 TDs a season. Solid contributor. What he brings in the lockerroom and on the sidelines makes him even more valueable than those contributions.

I'm never going to hate on someone for loving a player. Love whomever you want to. But I think that "best WR in the NFL" isn't a qualitative judgement. It's partly qualitative, but mostly quantitative, and I don't think that those numbers measure up. Are you saying that you don't find it troubling that Anquan's best games come when the Cardinals get down by 2 TDs and defenses start rolling back their coverages to prevent the deep ball?

What troubles me most about relying on Anquan as a primary weapon is I don't know how you design an offese to exploit his tools. The Cards tried for two years and lost a lot of games. They had a Top 10 passing offense last season and picked in the Top 10 of the NFL draft. You can't build an offense based on hoping that Boldin breaks 12 tackles on the way to the end zone, and there's no two ways around that.

Maybe it's just me, but I put a premium on calling things the way they are and not wishing that they were otherwise. Yes, I was a fan of LeVar Fisher and really, really wanted him to stay healthy. I thought he made a lot of plays when he was able to be on the field. But I never said that he was one of the Top 10 SLBs in the NFL. I really like Karlos Dansby and think he makes a ton of plays and is one of the most physically gifted players on this team. But I don't think that he's among the Top 10 LBs in the NFL right now. I'm not sure he's among the Top 3 linebackers in his division. I'm not sure he's the best linebacker on the team.

I watch a lot of football, and I see a lot of players. But these player estimations have an impact when it comes to the offseason and we decide where we can upgrade the roster. The Cards made a disasterous decision a few years ago when they thought that Raynoch Thompson, Marcel Shipp, and L.J. Shelton were the core pieces to a successful program. The Cards hurt themselves this year when they decided to stand pat a cornerback with Macklin, Rolle, and Green, and when they decided that they were going to go to war with Hayes, Dansby, and Pace as the starting linebackers. I'd just hate to see this team make the same mistake again.

 

[Duckjake]

I notice that you don't list the most meaningful stat for WRs, where I'm not sure if Anquan is in the Top 25: TDs. Those are the only thing that matter on the scoreboard

I was in a scoring only fanatasy league a few years ago. My WR's would make a ton of catches only to get tackled at the 2, the 6, the 3 and then some fat guy would run for the ensuing TD. I finished next to last.

The next year I drafted all the fat guys and finished second. TD's by WR's might not be such a meaningful stat.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The most meaningful stat for WR's is number of catches.That shows that you are open and hauling in the catch which is the WR's main objective. Boldin has consistently been near the top in that category to go along with yards. TD's are a byproduct of goal line situation. You coulsd argue that catches for 1st downs are just as meaningful as TD's because those are what keep the drives alive to get the TD'S. I don't know how Boldin stacks up in that category but i would guess that he's near the top. He's not the best WR in the game but he's definitley in the top 15. I believe last year that Steve Smith was the only WR with more 100 yard games than Boldin and Q missed a few games. There's a reason that the same WR's are near the top every year in catches and yards.

 

[Goldfield]

The most meaningful stat for WR's is number of catches.That shows that you are open and hauling in the catch which is the WR's main objective. Boldin has consistently been near the top in that category to go along with yards. TD's are a byproduct of goal line situation. You coulsd argue that catches for 1st downs are just as meaningful as TD's because those are what keep the drives alive to get the TD'S. I don't know how Boldin stacks up in that category but i would guess that he's near the top. He's not the best WR in the game but he's definitley in the top 15. I believe last year that Steve Smith was the only WR with more 100 yard games than Boldin and Q missed a few games. There's a reason that the same WR's are near the top every year in catches and yards.

I agree