Which team will be the best fit for our ex-HC.

[SissyBoyFloyd]

So many head coaching jobs opening up, I will be surprised if the Whiz isn't hired by one of them. Minnesota seems the most interesting to me and would allow Whiz to break in another new stadium, as well as new QB. I could definitely see the Lions being interested in him and they already have the weapons. The Redskins are nothing but a headache waiting for someone. The Bucs are a losing franchise, as is the Browns. Don't see any new coach succeeding in either of those places. The Cowboys would be a great choice if they pull the plug on their coach in the next few days.

 

[Azlen]

Definitely would have to be a team with an established QB. I wouldn't trust him to find and develop one.

 

[O]

Lions.

 

[Shane]

Definitely would have to be a team with an established QB. I wouldn't trust him to find and develop one.

Wouldn't need I if it's a team with a decent GM. I agree with O I say Lions would be best fit but unknown if interested

 

[Buckybird]

Lions.

Yep

 

[Azlen]

Wouldn't need I if it's a team with a decent GM. I agree with O I say Lions would be best fit but unknown if interested

A good GM could handle the finding part but not the developing part.

 

[TruColor]

So many head coaching jobs opening up, I will be surprised if the Whiz isn't hired by one of them. Minnesota seems the most interesting to me and would allow Whiz to break in another new stadium, as well as new QB.

You're assuming he'd actually last as HC until the new stadium opens in 2016!

 

[Shane]

A good GM could handle the finding part but not the developing part.

He developed a young Big Ben right to a SB and resurrected Warner. Having the talent is the issue. None of the other guys had any of it.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

He developed a young Big Ben right to a SB and resurrected Warner. Having the talent is the issue. None of the other guys had any of it.

The Steelers made the SB in spite of Big Ben his rookie year iirc..

And Whis did nothing for Warner except give him a chance IMHO
Warner had a lightning fast release, AND Fitz and Boldin to throw to, all Whis had to do was put Warner in the huddle.

His post-Warner history will clearly show that Whis is terrible.

 

[AZ Native]

The Steelers made the SB in spite of Big Ben his rookie year iirc..

And Whis did nothing for Warner except give him a chance IMHO
Warner had a lightning fast release, AND Fitz and Boldin to throw to, all Whis had to do was put Warner in the huddle.

His post-Warner history will clearly show that Whis is terrible.

So much hate.

 

[gimpy]

Only Cards coach to take us to the Super Bowl. Don't care what you say about him. I will always be grateful to him for that.

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[Jetstream Green]

He should coach college, I would love to see Whis coach my Longhorns and continue a now Texas tradition...the inability to identify a quarterback

 

[moklerman]

The Steelers made the SB in spite of Big Ben his rookie year iirc..

And Whis did nothing for Warner except give him a chance IMHO
Warner had a lightning fast release, AND Fitz and Boldin to throw to, all Whis had to do was put Warner in the huddle.

His post-Warner history will clearly show that Whis is terrible.

I think he might be a perfect fit for Detroit as many have said because of Stafford. While I agree that his contribution to Big Ben is debatable, I think he and Haley forced Warner to at the very least approach the game a different way and pushed him to be better than he was at the time.

Before this year I might not have said that but after seeing Rivers turnaround under Whis as the Chargers OC, I think it lends credence to that line of thought. Maybe it was more McCoy but if it was Whis, Detroit and Stafford would certainly benefit from that type of coaching.

I'd say Houston if they were keeping Schaub but they'd be crazy to do that as much as he's regressed.

 

[TJ]

His post-Warner history will clearly show that Whis is terrible.

Clearly? Then why is he one of the hottest coaching candidates in the NFL right now?

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Steelers made the SB in spite of Big Ben his rookie year iirc..

Actually, Ben played pretty well his second year and was en fuego in the first three rounds of the playoffs, pushing the Steelers into the Super Bowl, winning three road games. He stunk in the actual Super Bowl, but he was good in the regular season and nails in the AFC playoffs.

And Whis did nothing for Warner except give him a chance IMHO
Warner had a lightning fast release, AND Fitz and Boldin to throw to, all Whis had to do was put Warner in the huddle.

Sorry, but if this was the case, then Warner should have been just as good with Dennis Green and he was incredibly mediocre and outrageously turnover prone.

His post-Warner history will clearly show that Whis is terrible.

Phillip Rivers would probably beg to differ with you here as well. Dude was starting to spiral down from a great career with back to back mediocre seasons and a passer rating that went from 103 to 88 in back to back years. Whiz takes over as OC and he has his best season as a pro.

bottom line...you give Wiz talented QBs and he's going to get the most out of them. You give him garbage and you're gonna get garbage...like most coaches.

 

[Duckjake]

Phillip Rivers would probably beg to differ with you here as well. Dude was starting to spiral down from a great career with back to back mediocre seasons and a passer rating that went from 103 to 88 in back to back years. Whiz takes over as OC and he has his best season as a pro.

Wow. Did not know Rivers put up those numbers. 32 TDs only 11 interceptions and over 4400 yards with almost 70% completion rate. That's awesome.

Also did not know until I looked up Rivers stats for 2013 that SD has had only one losing season in the last 10 years.

The Chargers play in a real media vacuum out there.

 

[cardpa]

Actually, Ben played pretty well his second year and was en fuego in the first three rounds of the playoffs, pushing the Steelers into the Super Bowl, winning three road games. He stunk in the actual Super Bowl, but he was good in the regular season and nails in the AFC playoffs.



Sorry, but if this was the case, then Warner should have been just as good with Dennis Green and he was incredibly mediocre and outrageously turnover prone.



Phillip Rivers would probably beg to differ with you here as well. Dude was starting to spiral down from a great career with back to back mediocre seasons and a passer rating that went from 103 to 88 in back to back years. Whiz takes over as OC and he has his best season as a pro.

bottom line...you give Wiz talented QBs and he's going to get the most out of them. You give him garbage and you're gonna get garbage...like most coaches.

There in a nutshell is my problem with Whiz, he was very involved with picking the garbage he had to work with. Remember he released Leinart to go with Dwreck as his QB. This was the beginning of the downward spiral. To this day it still boggles my mind how a HC can name a guy his starting QB at the beginning of TC only to release him at the end of TC. Bottom line is Whiz had just as much to do with the garbage at QB as anyone in the organization at the time.

 

[Hollywood]

There in a nutshell is my problem with Whiz, he was very involved with picking the garbage he had to work with. Remember he released Leinart to go with Dwreck as his QB. This was the beginning of the downward spiral. To this day it still boggles my mind how a HC can name a guy his starting QB at the beginning of TC only to release him at the end of TC. Bottom line is Whiz had just as much to do with the garbage at QB as anyone in the organization at the time.

So he fails as a GM. Ok, I think most of us can agree with that....sort of. He had graves as the GM here so you have to give him a tiny pass. If he is with a team that has a real GM I think he does great.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Lions would be the best fit. For those of you that think Whiz can't coach, he has a .667 win% in the playoffs and managed to get the Cards to 8-8 with John Skelton/KK as his primary QB's.

If he gets with Stafford, the Lions will be legit contenders in the NFC next year.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Valid points by all, but remember.. This is the guy who made a bed with Russ Grimm, and rode that fail train all the way to being fired.

Between keeping Grimm and the gawd-awful offensive lines he produced, to thinking Dwreck was a serviceable QB.. He gets no pass from me.

Whis gets as much credit for coaching Warner, as John Fox gets for coaching Manning.

Very little.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Valid points by all, but remember.. This is the guy who made a bed with Russ Grimm, and rode that fail train all the way to being fired.

Between keeping Grimm and the gawd-awful offensive lines he produced, to thinking Dwreck was a serviceable QB.. He gets no pass from me.

Whis gets as much credit for coaching Warner, as John Fox gets for coaching Manning.

Very little.

The John Fox comparison doesn't hold up for a myriad of reasons, mostly being that Peyton's level of play has always been the same and the only reason he was on another team was because the Colts had injury concerns and the number pick for the best QB prospect in twenty years. Warner hadn't had any success in the 5 years before Wiz, had been dumped by two teams because they thought he was washed up and put up 27 TDs 30 INT and 45 fumbles while compiling an 8-19 record.

 

[GuernseyCard]

The Steelers made the SB in spite of Big Ben his rookie year iirc..

And Whis did nothing for Warner except give him a chance IMHO
Warner had a lightning fast release, AND Fitz and Boldin to throw to, all Whis had to do was put Warner in the huddle.

His post-Warner history will clearly show that Whis is terrible.

He was a fumbling, bumbling, shell shocked wreck when he arrived in AZ, and more than a few fans thought he was grossly overpaid as a backup.

Whiz insisted that he be disciplined and responsible with the ball. He was... and he completed his personal odyssey and legacy.

There is a QB in Detroit who needs the same direction at this point.

 

[cardpa]

The John Fox comparison doesn't hold up for a myriad of reasons, mostly being that Peyton's level of play has always been the same and the only reason he was on another team was because the Colts had injury concerns and the number pick for the best QB prospect in twenty years. Warner hadn't had any success in the 5 years before Wiz, had been dumped by two teams because they thought he was washed up and put up 27 TDs 30 INT and 45 fumbles while compiling an 8-19 record.

I agree with the Fox/Whiz comparison, Manning is such a better QB for a much longer period of time. That said I believe Haley had as much if not more to do with Warner's resurrection than Whiz. I also believe Haley was in Whiz's ear to use Warner. If history serves me correct how many times did you see Haley and Warner huddling on the sidelines pouring over things and making changes on the fly? If I recall it seemed they were together almost all the time. I think in some ways Warner loved the kind of school yard on the fly adjustments he and Haley made which was part of Warner's success. The draw it up in the dirt plays.

 

[Shane]

Actually, Ben played pretty well his second year and was en fuego in the first three rounds of the playoffs, pushing the Steelers into the Super Bowl, winning three road games. He stunk in the actual Super Bowl, but he was good in the regular season and nails in the AFC playoffs.



Sorry, but if this was the case, then Warner should have been just as good with Dennis Green and he was incredibly mediocre and outrageously turnover prone.



Phillip Rivers would probably beg to differ with you here as well. Dude was starting to spiral down from a great career with back to back mediocre seasons and a passer rating that went from 103 to 88 in back to back years. Whiz takes over as OC and he has his best season as a pro.

bottom line...you give Wiz talented QBs and he's going to get the most out of them. You give him garbage and you're gonna get garbage...like most coaches.[/QUOTE]

There in a nutshell is my problem with Whiz, he was very involved with picking the garbage he had to work with. Remember he released Leinart to go with Dwreck as his QB. This was the beginning of the downward spiral. To this day it still boggles my mind how a HC can name a guy his starting QB at the beginning of TC only to release him at the end of TC. Bottom line is Whiz had just as much to do with the garbage at QB as anyone in the organization at the time.

Time has proven that while seemingly dumb at the time dumping Leinart wasn't the bafoonery many people make it out to be. Leinart is an awful QB. He plays scared and has been cut from three teams since. Yet Anderson has managed to be a back up in this league for another 3 years and counting.

This team would have been no better off keeping Leinart sad to say!

 

[Shane]

I agree with the Fox/Whiz comparison

Wow. Cheese clearly showed the difference not even close to the same. Can you explain then Whiz as OC completely revitalizing Phillip rivers career?