Which team will be the best fit for our ex-HC.

[Cheesebeef]

I agree with the Fox/Whiz comparison, Manning is such a better QB for a much longer period of time. That said I believe Haley had as much if not more to do with Warner's resurrection than Whiz. I also believe Haley was in Whiz's ear to use Warner. If history serves me correct how many times did you see Haley and Warner huddling on the sidelines pouring over things and making changes on the fly? If I recall it seemed they were together almost all the time. I think in some ways Warner loved the kind of school yard on the fly adjustments he and Haley made which was part of Warner's success. The draw it up in the dirt plays.

Maybe so, but everything trickles down from the HC and considering that Wiz was still calling plays in 2007 when Warner came on fire again in the second half of the year (no one remembers that the only season Haley was the playcaller was '08...and called plays out of Wiz's playbook no less) and he was still calling plays in 2009 after Haley left and the offense was still killing it, it still seems like Wiz had a pretty big hand in knowing how to use Warner and get the best out of him.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I agree with the Fox/Whiz comparison, Manning is such a better QB for a much longer period of time. That said I believe Haley had as much if not more to do with Warner's resurrection than Whiz. I also believe Haley was in Whiz's ear to use Warner. If history serves me correct how many times did you see Haley and Warner huddling on the sidelines pouring over things and making changes on the fly? If I recall it seemed they were together almost all the time. I think in some ways Warner loved the kind of school yard on the fly adjustments he and Haley made which was part of Warner's success. The draw it up in the dirt plays.

Fine. If Whiz gets no credit as HC for Warner's re-emergence, then McCoy gets none of the credit for the Rivers turn around in SD this season; another QB who had serious turnover problems.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Fine. If Whiz gets no credit as HC for Warner's re-emergence, than McCoy gets none of the credit for the Rivers turn around in SD this season; another QB who had serious turnover problems.

bingo. can't have it both ways.

 

[kerouac9]

People are free to disagree, but I think that either Houston or Cleveland would be ideal landing spots for Whis. Both teams will have stacked offenses and offensive lines; both teams are going to have solid defensive personnel to work with. Both teams have strong front offices. Both teams have 3-4 base defensive personnel.

Basically, what both teams will require is a strong head administrator to orchestrate an offense while it breaks in a young and (presumably) talented quarterback.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

People are free to disagree, but I think that either Houston or Cleveland would be ideal landing spots for Whis. Both teams will have stacked offenses and offensive lines; both teams are going to have solid defensive personnel to work with. Both teams have strong front offices. Both teams have 3-4 base defensive personnel.

Basically, what both teams will require is a strong head administrator to orchestrate an offense while it breaks in a young and (presumably) talented quarterback.

You may be right there. I was only looking at teams from an offensive side of things. Detroit's defense is not set up for a 3-4 scheme at all. It would render Nick Fairley kind of useless and if they tried to make Suh play NT, I don't think that would go over very well. But he and Ansah would be pretty good DE's.

 

[kerouac9]

You may be right there. I was only looking at teams from an offensive side of things. Detroit's defense is not set up for a 3-4 scheme at all. It would render Nick Fairley kind of useless and if they tried to make Suh play NT, I don't think that would go over very well. But he and Ansah would be pretty good DE's.

IMO, Marc Trestman would be a good candidate for the Lions. It's hard to say what the right fit is there. I don't follow Detroit religiously, so I can't really speak to their particular concerns (and clearly Trestman isn't available). It's possible that the psychology of the Lions is so messed up that they're going to have to tear down and rebuild, but that doesn't make much sense to me, either.

I wonder if just a more calm leader like Lovie Smith would make sense. His Tampa-2 would play well there, and I think the talent on the offense could overcome whatever assistants he'd recruit? They'll probably do something dumb like hire Greg Roman, though.

 

[desertdawg]

Whiz and Horton together again would be cool, Lions look like a good place for that. They have a defense for Horton to mess with, and a QB so Whiz has a shot ..downfield.. .everyplay.

 

[GuernseyCard]

People are free to disagree, but I think that either Houston or Cleveland would be ideal landing spots for Whis. Both teams will have stacked offenses and offensive lines; both teams are going to have solid defensive personnel to work with. Both teams have strong front offices. Both teams have 3-4 base defensive personnel.

Basically, what both teams will require is a strong head administrator to orchestrate an offense while it breaks in a young and (presumably) talented quarterback.

Cleveland has said they are not re-interviewing candidates from last year, which eliminates Whiz.

 

[kerouac9]

Cleveland has said they are not re-interviewing candidates from last year, which eliminates Whiz.

I think that Cleveland is going to hire Josh McDaniels. That doesn't mean that I don't think that Whis would be an ideal fit for what they need.

That's the question posed by the OP.

 

[Buckybird]

I think that Cleveland is going to hire Josh McDaniels. .

Which is why they have sucked pretty much every season since Kosar & that secondary left the NFL...though its a differant team. MCDaniels is soooooooo overrated IMO

 

[Reddog]

I think he might be a perfect fit for Detroit as many have said because of Stafford. While I agree that his contribution to Big Ben is debatable, I think he and Haley forced Warner to at the very least approach the game a different way and pushed him to be better than he was at the time.

Before this year I might not have said that but after seeing Rivers turnaround under Whis as the Chargers OC, I think it lends credence to that line of thought. Maybe it was more McCoy but if it was Whis, Detroit and Stafford would certainly benefit from that type of coaching.

I'd say Houston if they were keeping Schaub but they'd be crazy to do that as much as he's regressed.

Only problem is Stafford is notorious for not putting the extra time in and Whiz will not do well with that.

 

[PACardsFan]

Whiz took this ultra crappy organization to the Super Bowl. That alone makes him an extraordinary HC. I love the job that Arians did this year, but Whiz got shafted in that he was stuck with Graves as a GM. Wherever Whiz goes, expect that team to reach the pinnacle.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Whiz took this ultra crappy organization to the Super Bowl. That alone makes him an extraordinary HC. I love the job that Arians did this year, but Whiz got shafted in that he was stuck with Graves as a GM. Wherever Whiz goes, expect that team to reach the pinnacle.

He also took that Super Bowl team and drove it into the ground and made them non contenders within two years of that Super Bowl. If you give him credit for the Super Bowl run, he also deserves blame for the mess he created. The fact that BA and SK were able to unscrew that mess up in one year is nothing short of amazing.

 

[PACardsFan]

He also took that Super Bowl team and drove it into the ground and made them non contenders within two years of that Super Bowl. If you give him credit for the Super Bowl run, he also deserves blame for the mess he created. The fact that BA and SK were able to unscrew that mess up in one year is nothing short of amazing.

Talk to me when BA wins 2 division titles, 4 playoff games, and an NFC Championship. Until then, facts are facts.

 

[moklerman]

Talk to me when BA wins 2 division titles, 4 playoff games, and an NFC Championship. Until then, facts are facts.

To be fair, Whis got his playoff wins with a 9-7 division winner while BA didn't even get a wild card for 10-6.

The 2013 team may not be as prolific offensively as the 2009 team but top to bottom, it seems to be in better shape and for the future. It's just bad timing for the comparison that BA is coaching in the toughest division in football.

 

[PACardsFan]

To be fair, Whis got his playoff wins with a 9-7 division winner while BA didn't even get a wild card for 10-6.

The 2013 team may not be as prolific offensively as the 2009 team but top to bottom, it seems to be in better shape and for the future. It's just bad timing for the comparison that BA is coaching in the toughest division in football.

I won't argue your point. But BA also wasn't saddled with having to keep a crappy DC & having to deal with a crappy GM. BA would gladly trade in his 10-6 for a 9-7, if it meant getting into the playoffs. Bottom line, Whiz did what no other Cardinal coach did or may ever do. He deserves respect from this base. Graves was the culprit for us not being able to build on Whiz's early success.

 

[Shane]

I won't argue your point. But BA also wasn't saddled with having to keep a crappy DC & having to deal with a crappy GM. BA would gladly trade in his 10-6 for a 9-7, if it meant getting into the playoffs. Bottom line, Whiz did what no other Cardinal coach did or may ever do. He deserves respect from this base. Graves was the culprit for us not being able to build on Whiz's early success.

 

[New Mexico]

Who cares?

 

[conraddobler]

Who cares?

Ah, finally sanity raises it's head.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Lions would be the best fit. For those of you that think Whiz can't coach, he has a .667 win% in the playoffs and managed to get the Cards to 8-8 with John Skelton/KK as his primary QB's.

If he gets with Stafford, the Lions will be legit contenders in the NFC next year.

He would also have a decent Oline and a young stud pass rusher. Something

he didnt have in Arizona

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Only problem is Stafford is notorious for not putting the extra time in and Whiz will not do well with that.

Heard Mort on the radio this morning and he said one of signs pointing to Whiz is that Stafford needs some tough love from the coach and Whiz would be the guy to provide it. He said Whiz was very hard on Ben but that it turned out very well and also mentioned the success Whiz has had resurrecting Warner and Rivers.

 

[D-Dogg]

Who cares?

Ah, finally sanity raises it's head.

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[8ndkorner]

Lions.

NFL.com

The Detroit Lions have very strong interest in San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, Ian Rapoport reports. Find out why Whisenhunt makes sense in Detroit.

 

[desertdawg]

Whiz and Horton together again would be cool, Lions look like a good place for that. They have a defense for Horton to mess with, and a QB so Whiz has a shot ..downfield.. .everyplay.

We have the Lions at home next year, and Whiz will try and come for his revenge!! Horton too!! It's just in the Cards!!

 

[GuernseyCard]

Heard Mort on the radio this morning and he said one of signs pointing to Whiz is that Stafford needs some tough love from the coach and Whiz would be the guy to provide it. He said Whiz was very hard on Ben but that it turned out very well and also mentioned the success Whiz has had resurrecting Warner and Rivers.

If it happens, wouldn't be surprised if he brings Frank Reich along with him.

He was SD's QB coach this season.