Whisenhunt Aftermath

[dogpoo32]

DA has bagged more co eds; therefore, he should start

I'll take USC & ASU chicks over Oregon State & Whatever's in Cleveland chicks any day of the week. But I bet Matt's dose of Valtrex is higher, so he should start.

 

[conraddobler]

One bad throw is a ridiculous thing to get po'd about on a QB, you don't judge a QB on one friggin throw in a preaseaon game.

OMG the drama here is epic.

Warner had legendary ducks that popped out every once in a while, this is off the charts stupid to worry about or even discuss one throw this intensely, wow we need some real football fast.

 

[Cardiac]

One bad throw is a ridiculous thing to get po'd about on a QB, you don't judge a QB on one friggin throw in a preaseaon game.

OMG the drama here is epic.

Warner had legendary ducks that popped out every once in a while, this is off the charts stupid to worry about or even discuss one throw this intensely, wow we need some real football fast.

cosign.

I find myself agreeing with almost all your thoughts about Leinart.

 

[D-Dogg]

One bad throw is a ridiculous thing to get po'd about on a QB, you don't judge a QB on one friggin throw in a preaseaon game.

OMG the drama here is epic.

Warner had legendary ducks that popped out every once in a while, this is off the charts stupid to worry about or even discuss one throw this intensely, wow we need some real football fast.

False. This is indicative of the leadership faults of Toast. If he were a good leader, he would have put that on the money and then shown the rest of the team what he's made of. I play a lot of Madden, and I can make that pass almost every time. Toast can't make that throw, and now we have picture perfect proof.

Toast is just an :safe: machine.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Matt underthrew it. Maybe a veteran receiver finds the ball sooner, comes back for it and makes a play.

I do think if Leinart had more time to set his feet (maybe he did and just rushed it based on how things were going) maybe he would have got more on it.

Either way, it is what it is. One not good throw out of 6.

he also bounced a post to an open Williams before that, which Wiz also commented on.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Yep and the miss to Breaston was probably even worse because it showed his complete lack of touch, he fired the ball on a line high when most NFL QB's would have just put it over the defender and dropped it in. Hard for you or I to do but most NFL QB's make that throw, if you can't, you don't play in the NFL.

If you watch that play carefully, you'll see safety Mike Griffin (#33) standing directly in the passing lane. Also, when you look at the play from the normal camera angle, not the back of the endzone camaera, you'll see Alterraun Verner (#20) cheating inside, and short, on Breatson to prevent the easy slant route completetion.

If DA didn't put some extra height on the pass, he ran the risk of putting the ball right into a Titan defender's hands.

It's only first and goal. I wouldn't expect any legit NFL quarterback to force the ball in that situation.



Start watching at at the 1:20 mark. It has two angles of the play in question. You tell me if you don't see what I'm talking about.

People should be more upset with the 3rd down pass to Williams that was thrown behind him. At least in that case, the bad pass was thrown low, and hard enough, not to get picked off.

While neither pass play resulted in a touchdown, DA did minimize the risk of a turnover.

The Cards still came away with 3 points...a disappointing 3 points, but they still got on the scoreboard.

 

[RonF]

The bright side of this whole issue is that we have an undrafted receiver who can get open down the sideline or across the middle during a game with a team that has a tough defense.

Williams can be coached to overcome weaknesses in his pass patterns but coaching the QBs to throw accurately to the open receiver is going to be tougher.

Matt wasn't the only QB to miss the open opportunity, Derek missed his guy in the endzone also.

 

[Mulli]

If you watch that play carefully, you'll see safety Mike Griffin (#33) standing directly in the passing lane. Also, when you look at the play from the normal camera angle, not the back of the endzone camaera, you'll see Alterraun Verner (#20) cheating inside, and short, on Breatson to prevent the easy slant route completetion.

If DA didn't put some extra height on the pass, he ran the risk of putting the ball right into a Titan defender's hands.

It's only first and goal. I wouldn't expect any legit NFL quarterback to force the ball in that situation.



Start watching at at the 1:20 mark. It has two angles of the play in question. You tell me if you don't see what I'm talking about.

People should be more upset with the 3rd down pass to Williams that was thrown behind him. At least in that case, the bad pass was thrown low, and hard enough, not to get picked off.

While neither pass play resulted in a touchdown, DA did minimize the risk of a turnover.

The Cards still came away with 3 points...a disappointing 3 points, but they still got on the scoreboard.

You love DA so much, you should marry him.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

You love DA so much, you should marry him.

I tried...he said "NO!"

 

[Cardiac]

If you watch that play carefully, you'll see safety Mike Griffin (#33) standing directly in the passing lane. Also, when you look at the play from the normal camera angle, not the back of the endzone camaera, you'll see Alterraun Verner (#20) cheating inside, and short, on Breatson to prevent the easy slant route completetion.

If DA didn't put some extra height on the pass, he ran the risk of putting the ball right into a Titan defender's hands.

It's only first and goal. I wouldn't expect any legit NFL quarterback to force the ball in that situation.



Start watching at at the 1:20 mark. It has two angles of the play in question. You tell me if you don't see what I'm talking about.

People should be more upset with the 3rd down pass to Williams that was thrown behind him. At least in that case, the bad pass was thrown low, and hard enough, not to get picked off.

While neither pass play resulted in a touchdown, DA did minimize the risk of a turnover.

The Cards still came away with 3 points...a disappointing 3 points, but they still got on the scoreboard.

I gotta disagree. DA through the ball too hard and about 8 inches to high. He should have and could have completed that pass. The play action worked well and most of the defenders were sucked in closer to the LOS.

The 3rd down pass to Williams was thrown behind because there were 2 Titan defenders in position if DA would have lead him based on when he threw the ball. Either Williams needed to flaten out the pattern of DA had to throw the ball much earlier.

As far as minimizing the risk of a turnover.....I could throw a ball where No One stands a chance of catching it.

It's interesting how people see the same thing but see it so differently.

 

[Longcolts]

Ok, for my part I looked at it, and my opinion of the play is Anderson flat missed an easy touchdown by badly over throwing Breaston. There is no way to sugar coat it.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

It's interesting how people see the same thing but see it so differently.

And that, my friend, is the joy of a message board!

 

[BigRedRage]

If you watch that play carefully, you'll see safety Mike Griffin (#33) standing directly in the passing lane. Also, when you look at the play from the normal camera angle, not the back of the endzone camaera, you'll see Alterraun Verner (#20) cheating inside, and short, on Breatson to prevent the easy slant route completetion.

If DA didn't put some extra height on the pass, he ran the risk of putting the ball right into a Titan defender's hands.

It's only first and goal. I wouldn't expect any legit NFL quarterback to force the ball in that situation.



Start watching at at the 1:20 mark. It has two angles of the play in question. You tell me if you don't see what I'm talking about.

People should be more upset with the 3rd down pass to Williams that was thrown behind him. At least in that case, the bad pass was thrown low, and hard enough, not to get picked off.

While neither pass play resulted in a touchdown, DA did minimize the risk of a turnover.

The Cards still came away with 3 points...a disappointing 3 points, but they still got on the scoreboard.

on the third down pass, if he threwe it in front of a reciever there was a linebacker there closing on the throw. He had to throw it behind and if the reciever (rookie) saw the linebacker cheating he would have cut back in just like DA expected.

 

[BigRedRage]

and by the way, he could have floated it to breaston, it was incomplete because he threw a bullet pass

 

[Cardiac]

And that, my friend, is the joy of a message board!

Yes and no. It is one of the joys of a message board.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

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Too high? Or high enough, and just a little behind?

Looks to me like Breaston didn't try hard enough.

 

[D-Dogg]

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Too high? Or high enough, and just a little behind?

Looks to me like Breaston didn't try hard enough.

Your picture negates your contention that Breaston wasn't wide open.

However, I have to give you kudos for how well you've thrown your chips in with DA, especially since it was basically on a whim.

 

[green machine]

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Too high? Or high enough, and just a little behind?

Looks to me like Breaston didn't try hard enough.

Pass was a rocket. DA had no touch, which is his M.O.

 

[Cardiac]

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Too high? Or high enough, and just a little behind?

Looks to me like Breaston didn't try hard enough.

Good pic.

How about too hard? When I watched the video the ball was past Stevie before he got his hands up. Of course that was after leaping 2 feet in the air so maybe too high still applies.

The closest Titan defender is what, 10 feet away? Nice touch DA.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Your picture negates your contention that Breaston wasn't wide open.

However, I have to give you kudos for how well you've thrown your chips in with DA, especially since it was basically on a whim.

I hope that Gee! appreciates just hard I am trying to spite him.

But, I must disagree with you on one thing. I never said that Breaston wasn't open, I was merely trying to point out what DA may have seen to affect his decision making process on how he threw the pass.

However, it's Breaston's job to make those kind of catches. If we apply the Jaworski/Carmichael rule; if he could touch it he should have caught it.

Honestly though, if that throw was 8 inches lower, 2 feet further in front of Breaston, with a tad bit less zip, it's an easy six.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

he also bounced a post to an open Williams before that, which Wiz also commented on.

Under HEAVY pressure IIRC.

 

[CaptTurbo]

DA threw that ball 10 yards with the velocity youd use on an 80 yard pass.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

man, i don't know why so many people are defending matt, defending anderson, or making comparisons between the two. personally i'm just horrified by what both have shown and the prospect that we don't have a winning nfl quarterback on our roster.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

man, i don't know why so many people are defending matt, defending anderson, or making comparisons between the two. personally i'm just horrified by what both have shown and the prospect that we don't have a winning nfl quarterback on our roster.

Exactly. At this point it's trying to argue the benefits of hard poop vs. diarrhea. Either way, they've both been crap. I wonder what Jeff Garcia is up to these days.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I dont know how Matt "looks so bad" After a good Titans game last year in his only start with no preperations and being 10-13 in preseason with no line or running game.