Whisenhunt Aftermath

[PortlandCardFan]

I dont know how Matt "looks so bad" After a good Titans game last year in his only start with no preperations and being 10-13 in preseason with no line or running game.

Didn't it take Toast a whole half before he started getting comfortable?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I dont know how Matt "looks so bad" After a good Titans game last year in his only start with no preperations and being 10-13 in preseason with no line or running game.

I find it really hard to understand why people continue to crow about his performance at Tennesee last year. Under the circumstances, he performed ok, but the bottom line is that with Matt at the helm, the offense in that game put up a grand total of 10 points. (Another TD by LSH on a return)

If that's what you're hanging onto for hope, I think you need to keep digging.

People also keeping hammering that the Cards haven't performed well in the preseason the last couple years, and they're completely missing the point. I don't think anyone is declaring a great or terrible season off of preseason results, but the bottom line is you'd like to at least see some positive signs of the starting offense being able to move the ball, which they've failed at miserably.

 

[CaptTurbo]

I find it really hard to understand why people continue to crow about his performance at Tennesee last year. Under the circumstances, he performed ok, but the bottom line is that with Matt at the helm, the offense in that game put up a grand total of 10 points. (Another TD by LSH on a return)

If that's what you're hanging onto for hope, I think you need to keep digging.

People also keeping hammering that the Cards haven't performed well in the preseason the last couple years, and they're completely missing the point. I don't think anyone is declaring a great or terrible season off of preseason results, but the bottom line is you'd like to at least see some positive signs of the starting offense being able to move the ball, which they've failed at miserably.

First he didnt know he was playing till game day. Second Im not crowing about it but I dont think its a knock against him.

 

[Russ Smith]

If you watch that play carefully, you'll see safety Mike Griffin (#33) standing directly in the passing lane. Also, when you look at the play from the normal camera angle, not the back of the endzone camaera, you'll see Alterraun Verner (#20) cheating inside, and short, on Breatson to prevent the easy slant route completetion.

If DA didn't put some extra height on the pass, he ran the risk of putting the ball right into a Titan defender's hands.

It's only first and goal. I wouldn't expect any legit NFL quarterback to force the ball in that situation.



Start watching at at the 1:20 mark. It has two angles of the play in question. You tell me if you don't see what I'm talking about.

People should be more upset with the 3rd down pass to Williams that was thrown behind him. At least in that case, the bad pass was thrown low, and hard enough, not to get picked off.

While neither pass play resulted in a touchdown, DA did minimize the risk of a turnover.

The Cards still came away with 3 points...a disappointing 3 points, but they still got on the scoreboard.

I watched it and I still don't agree. Yes Griffin is in the passing lane but he's about a yard from the LOS, he's not close enough to Breaston, and there is still plenty of room for Anderson to loft the ball. Verner is beaten, if the throw is accurate it's an easy TD IMHO. I completely agree with Gruden on that play an NFL starter has to hit that throw.

Anderson seemed to be upset with Williams on the missed slant, I assume he felt Williams ran the route incorrectly although it looked like the throw was either late or just behind Stephen.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

First he didnt know he was playing till game day. Second Im not crowing about it but I dont think its a knock against him.

Sure, which is why I said "under the circumstances, he performed ok". Nowhere did I insinuate that it was a knock against him. Again, my point was that performance was ok, but nothing to hang your hat on.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Anderson seemed to be upset with Williams on the missed slant, I assume he felt Williams ran the route incorrectly although it looked like the throw was either late or just behind Stephen.

Anderson claims that Williams should have "flattened out" the route. Regardless, that was an easy pass to a receiver who had beaten the corner. No excuse for an NFL qb for not executing it.

 

[D-Dogg]

Sure, which is why I said "under the circumstances, he performed ok". Nowhere did I insinuate that it was a knock against him. Again, my point was that performance was ok, but nothing to hang your hat on.

Or to start a witch hunt over.

 

[Mulli]

Sure, which is why I said "under the circumstances, he performed ok". Nowhere did I insinuate that it was a knock against him. Again, my point was that performance was ok, but nothing to hang your hat on.

Yet Max Hall throws a garbage time improvised TD pass, and people rave about him overlooking a horrible throw it up for grabs Rex Grossman interception.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I dont know how Matt "looks so bad" After a good Titans game last year in his only start with no preperations and being 10-13 in preseason with no line or running game.

a "good" titans game last year? The offense scored a whopping 10 points. He played mediocre and it's his job to be prepared as the number 2 QB, especially a week after Warner got blind-sided and was seeing stars all week.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Yet Max Hall throws a garbage time improvised TD pass, and people rave about him overlooking a horrible throw it up for grabs Rex Grossman interception.

True, the INT was horrible, but to be fair it was his first NFL drive ever. The rest of the game he played far better than either Leinart or Anderson. Worse, he showed far more poise, touch and moxie than either was well.

 

[Mulli]

a "good" titans game last year? The offense scored a whopping 10 points. He played mediocre and it's his job to be prepared as the number 2 QB, especially a week after Warner got blind-sided and was seeing stars all week.

That Titans D was on a pretty good run at the time. Just saying. He played well enough on the road to get the team the win. That 99 yard TD drive is on the D.

 

[Mulli]

True, the INT was horrible, but to be fair it was his first NFL drive ever. The rest of the game he played far better than either Leinart or Anderson. Worse, he showed far more poise, touch and moxie than either was well.

Who cares. Garbage time is garbage time.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Or to start a witch hunt over.

True. Who is starting a witch hunt though? I'll prepare the dunking chair!

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[ASUCHRIS]

Who cares. Garbage time is garbage time.

Ha, you're next in the dunking chair. We'll solve the debate once and for all if you're a witch.

 

[Shane]

That Titans D was on a pretty good run at the time. Just saying. He played well enough on the road to get the team the win. That 99 yard TD drive is on the D.

Matt and the O put up more than a lousy 10 spot then there is no need for the D to stop that 99 yard drive or worry about it. Two sides to every coin.

 

[Duckjake]

Good pic.

How about too hard? When I watched the video the ball was past Stevie before he got his hands up. Of course that was after leaping 2 feet in the air so maybe too high still applies.

The closest Titan defender is what, 10 feet away? Nice touch DA.

Boldin would have caught it.

 

[Shane]

Boldin would have caught it.

Well duh!

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Matt and the O put up more than a lousy 10 spot then there is no need for the D to stop that 99 yard drive or worry about it. Two sides to every coin.

Exactly what I've been thinking since the second the that game ended.

I've been watching Whiz on every newscast/report I can find since the day camp opened. Concentrating on what he had to say about Matt and watching how he said it. I just have not seen the love or the confidence. Most notable was the report that had Whiz hemming and hawing about Matt's performance after the first game. Then they cut to Matt saying, basically, he thought he had a fine game. It was as if they were not only not talking about the same game, they weren't talking about the same team.

I was even trying to watch the body language and comradery between Matt and Whiz and Matt and the team up in Flag last week and it just was not there.

I absolutely do not think Whiz is sold on Matt. (And he talks about his quarterbackS a lot. He uses the plural so much it's telling.)

(BTW The most comradery I saw was during a QB drill where they were trying to hit the cross-bar of the goal posts. Max Hall over-threw the ball and it ended up buried in the mats that were rolled up against the wall. They made Hall go and dig it out and he spent a couple of minutes up-side down with his legs in the air trying to find the thing. He came out with it and a big smile on his face. Great applause from the fans.)

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Ha, you're next in the dunking chair. We'll solve the debate once and for all if you're a witch.

Put Mulli to the test. Does he weigh more than a duck?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g&feature=related

 

[Mulli]

Matt and the O put up more than a lousy 10 spot then there is no need for the D to stop that 99 yard drive or worry about it. Two sides to every coin.

Wow, you are so smart AND old. Pfft.

99 yard drive against VY. Think about that.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Matt and the O put up more than a lousy 10 spot then there is no need for the D to stop that 99 yard drive or worry about it. Two sides to every coin.

What about in the SuperBowl when the defense allowed the last score??


If they would have scored 28 vs. only 23............??

 

[Cheesebeef]

That Titans D was on a pretty good run at the time. Just saying. He played well enough on the road to get the team the win. That 99 yard TD drive is on the D.

The D and Special teams are the only reason we were in that game. Up until midway through the 4th quarter, the offense had put up a whopping 3 points. Putting that game on the D which had been out there all game long because our offense went nowhere fast doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Do they share responsibility for the loss? Absolutely, but an offense putting up 10 points in a game isn't playing well enough to get a win on the road Mulli.

 

[Shane]

Wow, you are so smart. Just a pure genious!.

Thanks bro!

 

[Mulli]

99 yard drive against VY. Think about that.

 

[Shane]

What about in the SuperBowl when the defense allowed the last score??


If they would have scored 28 vs. only 23............??

23 if you look league wide is a decent number unlike the paltry 10 put on the board in Tennessee.