Who Don't you want the Cards to take in the draft?

[Buckybird]

Well a combination of Robinson and Watson held Gore to 30 yards on 22 carries. They held Steven Jackson to 17 yards on 7 carries, Seattle to 12 yards on 10 carries, Slaton of the Texans to 39 yards on 13 carries and stuffed them at the goal line. And we all know what they did during the SB run.

Going into the Carolina game last season (through 6 games) the Cards had the #1 ranked rushing defense in the NFL( could have been just the NFC).

What happened to cause the run D to collapse after that is still a mystery to me but at least they have shown the Cards can defense the run with Gabe and some UDFA.

Beat me to it Duck.

I'm for still for adding a more athletic 300l Nt/DT anyway. I still say Mt. Cody will be Mt. Busto...

 

[BW52]

With the strength and conditioning coaches the colleges have nowdays there is no excuse to be a college athlete and look like Terrence Cody.He looks like a total fat slob.............not a kid looking to get a contract that could set him up for his entire life.I question his stamina and wonder how he will do against NFL caliber Centers and OGs.I question his motivation.................
How we handle a NFL training camp in the heat ?This kid looks like the fat kid who is just bigger than everyone else......................

 

[Buckybird]

With the strength and conditioning coaches the colleges have nowdays there is no excuse to be a college athlete and look like Terrence Cody.He looks like a total fat slob.............not a kid looking to get a contract that could set him up for his entire life.I question his stamina and wonder how he will do against NFL caliber Centers and OGs.I question his motivation.................
How we handle a NFL training camp in the heat ?This kid looks like the fat kid who is just bigger than everyone else......................

My exact questions exactly earlier in another thread. I want no part of Mt. Fatty.

 

[Monty]

2. He is not quick off the snap. That means he will not get to the QB. It also means he will not get the RB behind the LOS. His life will completely reside within the 2 guards.

I find this a very good point to look at when considering the role of a NT in a 3-4 defense. Their whole role is to eat up space and ensure they get double teams whether it is two guards, a centre and a guard or any other combination on the offensive line. His role should centre around eliminating several blockers from the game allowing the DE's and linebackers to shoot the gaps created by the NT occupying these blockers. A succesfull NT will command several blockers and ensuring the RB cannot run right through centre. As you can see it is a very difficult role and requires a lot of skill in negotiating blockers and focus in keeping an eye out for the RB. It is entirely futile to expect the NT to be putting pressure on the QB regularly as that is impossible when he usually attracts the attention of a double team.

in order for out In order for our 3-4 scheme to be effective next year we need a dominating nose tackle who can constantly occupy 2 or even 3 blockers is needed. Terrence Cody no matter how you look at his body does that VERY well. If we can manage his weight and his consistency over the course of a season not only will he be a success but he'll make Porter, Campbell, Dockett and the rest of our defense extremely effective in particular in the pass rush aspect but also in the run defence. I would be very satisfied if we took him at #26.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Tim Tebow and Jimmy Clausen. Both are going to be terrible pros.

 

[WarnerHOF]

Sergio Kindle.

 

[CardsFan88]

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Nuff said.

ROFL that face screams.....'I didn't think I was going to have to take off my shirt'

Also nice lance armstrong's two sizes too small.

 

[Buckybird]

Mt. Bloaty has enough fat on him to feed a starving 3rd world country. I'm gonna email Wiz this picture to remind him why we don't want him in Cardinal red.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't care how fat Cody is now, put him around John Lott, Adrian Wilson, D Dockett, J Porter, C Campbell and he will change that body type. There is something to be said for the pressure of your peers and what it can make you do.

 

[DoTheDew]

Anyone who is knocking T. Cody simply because of how he looks without a shirt on loses any credibility to me. This is the NFL not a beauty pageant. I bet if you look at almost any top 3-4 NT and most top OLinemen shirtless you will see a bunch of fat and man boobs. If they were ripped at that height they'd be TEs, QBs, LBs or safeties. These guys are playing NT because they are heavy and hard to move. Do you people not understand what the purpose of a 3-4 NT is in our system?

If you complain that he has poor stamina or don't like him as a player that's fine but if you are saying, "I hope that picture is in the minds of all the Cards drafting personell" then you are clueless. If our drafting personnel are judging people on physical appearance rather than their ability to play football they should be fired immediately.

 

[Longcolts]

Anyone who is knocking T. Cody simply because of how he looks without a shirt on loses any credibility to me. This is the NFL not a beauty pageant. I bet if you look at almost any top 3-4 NT and most top OLinemen shirtless you will see a bunch of fat and man boobs. If they were ripped at that height they'd be TEs, QBs, LBs or safeties. These guys are playing NT because they are heavy and hard to move. Do you people not understand what the purpose of a 3-4 NT is in our system?

If you complain that he has poor stamina or don't like him as a player that's fine but if you are saying, "I hope that picture is in the minds of all the Cards drafting personell" then you are clueless. If our drafting personnel are judging people on physical appearance rather than their ability to play football they should be fired immediately.

Co-sign

 

[Monty]

Anyone who is knocking T. Cody simply because of how he looks without a shirt on loses any credibility to me. This is the NFL not a beauty pageant. I bet if you look at almost any top 3-4 NT and most top OLinemen shirtless you will see a bunch of fat and man boobs. If they were ripped at that height they'd be TEs, QBs, LBs or safeties. These guys are playing NT because they are heavy and hard to move. Do you people not understand what the purpose of a 3-4 NT is in our system?

I did try to explain the role of an NT in the 3-4 system we use but people tend to look past that and look at one stupid picture taken at the combine (BTW what the heck was his agent doing allowing Cody to take his shirt off ,there is no regulation that says they have to). Bodywise Cody actually isnt far of having a typical NT body, he just needs to loose 10lb's or so and keep it off. I have no doubt that with Lott's fitness regime and work-out programme's Cody can do that as his coaches have indicated he is a very hard worker.

But make no doubt it, Cody has the talent to be a dominant 3-4 NT and ill go as far as saying I think he will be one of the best NT's in the game in the right organisation i.e. The Cardinals.

 

[kerouac9]

Well a combination of Robinson and Watson held Gore to 30 yards on 22 carries. They held Steven Jackson to 17 yards on 7 carries, Seattle to 12 yards on 10 carries, Slaton of the Texans to 39 yards on 13 carries and stuffed them at the goal line. And we all know what they did during the SB run.

Going into the Carolina game last season (through 6 games) the Cards had the #1 ranked rushing defense in the NFL( could have been just the NFC).

What happened to cause the run D to collapse after that is still a mystery to me but at least they have shown the Cards can defense the run with Gabe and some UDFA.

How about that the NFL figured out whatever scheme Davis was running to stop the run, and then countered it? It's like how Clancy Pendergast's pass rush schemes were effective for eight weeks, but then he ran out of of rush packages, and the Cards started hemorrhaging points.

Scheme can be used when talent isn't there, but scheme only lasts so long. If the Cards believe that just something happened and they couldn't stop the run anymore, then we're going to be a good defense for six weeks and then fall apart.

 

[Cardiac]

How about that the NFL figured out whatever scheme Davis was running to stop the run, and then countered it? It's like how Clancy Pendergast's pass rush schemes were effective for eight weeks, but then he ran out of of rush packages, and the Cards started hemorrhaging points.

Scheme can be used when talent isn't there, but scheme only lasts so long. If the Cards believe that just something happened and they couldn't stop the run anymore, then we're going to be a good defense for six weeks and then fall apart.

I agree with this and would also factor in that Hayes was a shell of himself in the 2nd half of the season.

Having a true NT (Cody) would help protect the ILB's and allow more schemes from the DC.

 

[Buckybird]

Anyone who is knocking T. Cody simply because of how he looks without a shirt on loses any credibility to me. This is the NFL not a beauty pageant. I bet if you look at almost any top 3-4 NT and most top OLinemen shirtless you will see a bunch of fat and man boobs. If they were ripped at that height they'd be TEs, QBs, LBs or safeties. These guys are playing NT because they are heavy and hard to move. Do you people not understand what the purpose of a 3-4 NT is in our system?

If you complain that he has poor stamina or don't like him as a player that's fine but if you are saying, "I hope that picture is in the minds of all the Cards drafting personell" then you are clueless. If our drafting personnel are judging people on physical appearance rather than their ability to play football they should be fired immediately.

We will see in 3 years. If he's drafted by our Redbirds I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Anyone who is knocking T. Cody simply because of how he looks without a shirt on loses any credibility to me. This is the NFL not a beauty pageant. I bet if you look at almost any top 3-4 NT and most top OLinemen shirtless you will see a bunch of fat and man boobs. If they were ripped at that height they'd be TEs, QBs, LBs or safeties. These guys are playing NT because they are heavy and hard to move. Do you people not understand what the purpose of a 3-4 NT is in our system?

If you complain that he has poor stamina or don't like him as a player that's fine but if you are saying, "I hope that picture is in the minds of all the Cards drafting personell" then you are clueless. If our drafting personnel are judging people on physical appearance rather than their ability to play football they should be fired immediately.

K9 and Joe place but this is the post of the thread.

I want McClain 1, and Cody 2. I like Cody even better then Williams. Williams only did it for one year and that was more of a Cover 2 type D he played in. And I think people are overhyping Weatherspoon on this board. Workout Warrior and more of a 2nd round pick IMHO.

 

[Zeno]

I am glad some people here grasp the job of a prototypical 3-4 NT. He doesn't have to pile up the statistics to have an impact on the defense. His whole job will be to occupy space and deny running lanes or collapse a pocket from the middle. He did this consistently in college, he routinely dominated his opponents and his presence allowed McClain a lot of opportunities to make plays (I am not taking anything away from McClain but put an average NT in front of him and he is not going to be as effective in that Alabama defense).

I could care less what he looked like without a shirt or ran his 40 in. I saw enough of him in college IN UNIFORM that would make me thrilled to have him as a Cardinal.

 

[BW52]

I think everybody understands what a NT does.I question if Cody has the dediocation and desire to be worthy of a top pick.He has a reputation as a player who coasts and doesn`t always hustle.Right there are TWO things that i don`t want to hear about a Cards top pick.He is just got too many question marks IMHO.
1.Stamina ?
2.Attitude ?
3.hustle ?
4.Work ethic ?


Sorry gang................i hope Cards stay the hell away from Cody.

 

[Zeno]

I think everybody understands what a NT does.I question if Cody has the dediocation and desire to be worthy of a top pick.He has a reputation as a player who coasts and doesn`t always hustle.Right there are TWO things that i don`t want to hear about a Cards top pick.He is just got too many question marks IMHO.
1.Stamina ?
2.Attitude ?
3.hustle ?
4.Work ethic ?


Sorry gang................i hope Cards stay the hell away from Cody.

Watch an Alabama game or 2. 2,3 & 4 are answered without any doubt. As for stamina its rare for any 3-4 NT to be everydown players, even Pro Bowlers.

 

[BW52]

Watch an Alabama game or 2. 2,3 & 4 are answered without any doubt. As for stamina its rare for any 3-4 NT to be everydown players, even Pro Bowlers.

I want the Cards top pick to be a every down player.A playmaker type. A player without questions concernig attitude.

 

[Zeno]

I want the Cards top pick to be a every down player.A playmaker type. A player without questions concernig attitude.

Who questions this guys attitude? Saban loves him, I haven't read a thing from a teammate questioning him.

Did you not want Beanie last year? Because he wasn't an everydown player.

Sometimes playmakers get the opportunities to make plays because of their teammates. This guy blocked 2 FGs in one game last year, so in addition to playing most of the defensive snaps he also played special teams.

Lets see what the country sees in him. These are excerpts of articles during the college football season...

From LA Times...

Terrence Cody is 6 feet 5, 355 pounds.
Alabama's senior nose tackle is the best player on what might be college football's top defense, yet the Heisman front-runner headed into the most recent games was teammate Mark Ingram, who, with the spotlight on him against Auburn, was held to 30 yards in 16 carries.
Meantime, Cody spent the game as he usually does, being double- and triple-teamed, plugging up the line of scrimmage and opening opportunities for the rest of Alabama's defense.

From Houston Chronicle...

Terrence Cody, Alabama's 354-pound All-America nose tackle, presents a different sort of obstacle for McCoy and the UT offense. Cody has only 25 tackles , including six for loss, but his inside presence alters opponents' game plans.
“You cannot forget about him,” said Tide defensive end Lorenzo Washington. “He may not make many tackles, but he requires double and triple teams. They slide protections away from him. They run the ball to the outside, so Rolando (McClain) gets to make plays, and (safety) Mark Barron comes up and makes a lot of plays.”

From Miami Herald...

Cody enters Saturday's game with 24 tackles, including five tackles behind the line of scrimmage. Statistically, the Floridian's impact on No. 2 Alabama's defense is directly correlated with a large number of stops by Crimson Tide junior inside linebacker Rolando McClain.
With opponents forced to double team Cody, McClain has roamed freely this season and flourished despite the loss of fellow inside linebacker Dont'a Hightower

 

[WarnerHOF]

Have you people ever actually watched Cody play before or are you just judging him from one picture?

 

[Buckybird]

everyone has there own flavor of ice cream...mine just isn't whatever Mt. Bloaty eats.

 

[Buckybird]

Have you people ever actually watched Cody play before or are you just judging him from one picture?

just because some disagree about him doesnt mean I haven't seen him. Probably saw 7-8 Bama games the last 2 years. Just because he played at Bama & the great SEC doesn't mean he's gonna succeed at the next level.

 

[BW52]

Have you people ever actually watched Cody play before or are you just judging him from one picture?

Yes i have watched him on TV and i still don`t want him as the Cards top pick.You don`t like it.......too bad.