Who else is excited for the new Suns era?

[Mainstreet]

Yes, that's right.

Well you have the right to dispute anything.

Well neither of us knows what NBA front offices really consider to be NBA head coaching credentials, but if standing on the sidelines in Las Vegas with a bunch of D-League castoffs is on the list, safe to say I'd be very surprised.

The Suns had two players is the summer league who were not D-League castoffs in Morris and Marshall. Also there were numerous first round picks and second year players from other teams participating. I would say coaching in the Summer League is a plus not a minus as a credential.

And if being an assistant is the magical line on the resume, then why not Cartwright?

Bill Cartwright's contract with the Suns was not renewed so I think he can be scratched off the list for now.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Dan likes to drink. Alot.

Not gonna be a match as the HC.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Dan likes to drink. Alot.

ha.

 

[Chaplin]

Well neither of us knows what NBA front offices really consider to be NBA head coaching credentials, but if standing on the sidelines in Las Vegas with a bunch of D-League castoffs is on the list, safe to say I'd be very surprised. And if being an assistant is the magical line on the resume, then why not Cartwright?

I think it's safe to say that the Suns brass think Majerle is a better candidate than Cartwright. At the end of the day, they are giving him opportunites to coach. Whether that is up to par in your opinion is debatable. But there is no question they are looking at what he could bring as a possible head coach.

Sure, there are a lot of former players that made horrible coaches, but there are some former players that made stellar coaches. In fact two of the three top coaches of the last 15 years were former players. (Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan) (The third, Gregg Popovich, was never an NBA player)

Doesn't mean he'll be a great coach, or even a good one, but there simply is no reason to discount him because he's a former player.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Dan as an announcer was hilarious. He doesn't seem serious enough for the responsibility.

 

[Superbone]

Dan likes to drink. Alot.

Not gonna be a match as the HC.

I don't know. You might need that with this squad.

 

[Errntknght]

As an announcer, Margerle demonstrated much less insight into the game of basketball than Eddie Johnson did. That's not enough to make you a prime HC candidate but if you don't have it, you have no business being a head coach.

I hope the heck the Suns brass are not 'grooming' Marjerle for the job - we've done that twice in the past with our former players - Westfall and Frank Johnson - and it didn't work out well with Westy, while FJ was a disaster. Pringles almost fell into that category though I think Colangelo hired him with the thought of installing him as the HC as soon as FJ gave him a good excuse - IMO he was another disaster though I know many will disagree.

Scotty Skiles was groomed by BC to undercut Ainge and put BC's stamp on the team so that was a slightly different scenario. Up until then JC determined the head coaches even though BC was nominally the GM.

 

[JCSunsfan]

As an announcer, Margerle demonstrated much less insight into the game of basketball than Eddie Johnson did. That's not enough to make you a prime HC candidate but if you don't have it, you have no business being a head coach.

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This observation and the one about Majerle not being serious enough are spot on.

I do wonder why no one has given EJ a shot. I don't like his delivery as a commentator much, but his content is excellent.

 

[Chaplin]

Majerle hasn't been a commentator for 4 years--all 4 of which he has been an assistant coach.

Unless you think he's too stupid to learn, don't you think 4 years is a good amount of time to learn on the job? I'm still not saying he'd be a good HC, but basing your opinion on commentating he did 4 or 5 years ago seems a little bizarre.

 

[Superbone]

... we've done that twice in the past with our former players - Westfall and Frank Johnson - and it didn't work out well with Westy...

Yeah, what a disaster. Got to the NBA Finals and didn't win. One of the worst seasons in Suns' history.

Oh, wait...

 

[elindholm]

Yeah, what a disaster. Got to the NBA Finals and didn't win. One of the worst seasons in Suns' history.

Oh, wait...

Well 1992-93 was obviously good, but the Suns had the best roster in the league the next two seasons and choked on their own vomit twice in a row against the Rockets. Surely Westphal deserves some of the blame for that, and then he went on to be a failure in both Seattle and Sacramento.

 

[BC867]

So many good points brought up about why it looks like Majerle would not be a good Head Coach.

Not serious, drinking, no solid experience, etc.

Y'know, when evaluating a player or Head Coach, it doesn't matter if he is "good" or "bad". Just that he is better than his competition.

I am solidly with Eric on this. I haven't seen anything to indicate that Dan Majerle would ever be considered anything more than average at best, and probably below that.

As I mentioned, if anyone is serious about Thunder Dan as Head Coach, let him try it in the D League, or as a college coach. Then we'll all see what he is made of when he is on the hot seat.

To make him a Head Coach in the greatest basketball league in the world, it means that some team would have a figurehead. And if they have a figurehead, they don't have a Head Coach.

 

[Phrazbit]

I'd be really surprised if at the end of this year Majerle isnt the head coach, and I dont mean that in a positive way. Gentry, with one year left on his deal and no signs of an extension coming his way, is going to be the fall guy for the upcoming rough season. And they will give the job to Majerle in an effort to stir up excitement, not because he is qualified but because the fans love him.

I really do like Dan, I thought he was a great color guy. Really question his coaching chops, and I certainly do not think Gentry deserves the treatment he will likely receive. Hopefully the team extends him, he deserves it.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd be really surprised if at the end of this year Majerle isnt the head coach, and I dont mean that in a positive way. Gentry, with one year left on his deal and no signs of an extension coming his way, is going to be the fall guy for the upcoming rough season. And they will give the job to Majerle in an effort to stir up excitement, not because he is qualified but because the fans love him.

I really do like Dan, I thought he was a great color guy. Really question his coaching chops, and I certainly do not think Gentry deserves the treatment he will likely receive. Hopefully the team extends him, he deserves it.

As I pointed out earlier in the thread, if Majerle gets a chance at coaching the Suns it will probably be on an interim basis which would give him his opportunity. However, it is hard to see the Suns players quitting on Gentry from where I sit. The Suns do not have a franchise player. IMO, Gentry is the type of coach to rebuild a young team. However, as Cotton Fitzsimmons used to say, coaches are hired to be fired so who knows.

 

[Phrazbit]

As I pointed out earlier in the thread, if Majerle gets a chance at coaching the Suns it will probably be on an interim basis which would give him his opportunity. However, it is hard to see the Suns players quitting on Gentry from where I sit. The Suns do not have a franchise player. IMO, Gentry is the type of coach to rebuild a young team. However, as Cotton Fitzsimmons used to say, coaches are hired to be fired so who knows.

I dont think the players will give up on Gentry either, but that the franchise has not offered him an extension is pretty telling. It looks as though the Suns need to do well this year for him to be retained... and with the roster in place they will be lucky to win 30 games.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'd be really surprised if at the end of this year Majerle isnt the head coach, and I dont mean that in a positive way. Gentry, with one year left on his deal and no signs of an extension coming his way, is going to be the fall guy for the upcoming rough season. And they will give the job to Majerle in an effort to stir up excitement, not because he is qualified but because the fans love him.

I really do like Dan, I thought he was a great color guy. Really question his coaching chops, and I certainly do not think Gentry deserves the treatment he will likely receive. Hopefully the team extends him, he deserves it.

If Gentry gets fired, his replacement should be Elston Turner not Majerle.

 

[mojorizen7]

Yeah, what a disaster. Got to the NBA Finals and didn't win. One of the worst seasons in Suns' history.

Oh, wait...

If i need points out of a timeout then i'll take Westphal. A good offensive mind IMO...but overall i thought he was pretty mediocre as a leader and motivator. I thought his preparation was terrible. A players coach to the extreme and blessed with an awesome,veteran roster.

As I pointed out earlier in the thread, if Majerle gets a chance at coaching the Suns it will probably be on an interim basis which would give him his opportunity. However, it is hard to see the Suns players quitting on Gentry from where I sit. The Suns do not have a franchise player. IMO, Gentry is the type of coach to rebuild a young team. However, as Cotton Fitzsimmons used to say, coaches are hired to be fired so who knows.

I think you may be right but I don't think any of us really know what kind of philosophy or system he'd like to run at this point....he was forced to just go with Nashball the last few years. I'm really interested to see what he comes up with this season.

I dont think the players will give up on Gentry either, but that the franchise has not offered him an extension is pretty telling. It looks as though the Suns need to do well this year for him to be retained... and with the roster in place they will be lucky to win 30 games.

I agree and if i'm Gentry i'm not happy about it.

 

[mojorizen7]

If Gentry gets fired, his replacement should be Stan Van Gundy not Majerle.

FTFY

 

[SirStefan32]

FTFY

Surely you must be joking? I rarely disagree with you, but if you are serious about SVG, I could not disagree more. I'd rather have his brother Jeff.

 

[95pro]

stan? really?

 

[mojorizen7]

Surely you must be joking? I rarely disagree with you, but if you are serious about SVG, I could not disagree more. I'd rather have his brother Jeff.

No sorry i meant this guy. No wait...i meant the skinny guy...No...i'm confused now too.

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[Cheesebeef]

Well 1992-93 was obviously good, but the Suns had the best roster in the league the next two seasons and choked on their own vomit twice in a row against the Rockets. Surely Westphal deserves some of the blame for that, and then he went on to be a failure in both Seattle and Sacramento.

not to mention taking over a solid Pepperdine squad which was on the way up who had strung together multiple post-season appearances and turning them into a joke by the time he was done.

The ONLY thing he did for the 1993 squad was make the Westy Guarantee. Otherwise, the guy was an asbolutely ABYSMAL coach, who had absolutely zero success anywhere else in his career after.

 

[jagu]

Didn't Lin average nearly 5 turnovers a game as a starter? You need to factor that in. And Lin is miserable defensively.

On a side note, this forum is so depressing. Not too long ago it was active and we had a ton of different posters. Some were positive about the Suns and some were negative. Now it's basically the same 10 people bitching about every little thing.

If I say anything about Lin I'm automatically crucified for being a Asian hating racist but Dragic is better than Lin. Lin plays zero defense and he's seriously turnover prone. (Cue "oh but he can learn how to play point" remarks). We'll see this year how good Lin is in the starting role, I can guarantee you it won't be Linsane.

 

[Mainstreet]

I was reading a Paul Coro tweet that contained a picture on how the Suns plan to promote themselves that was posted at the arena box office. It was interesting that neither Gortat nor Morris were in this picture, however, Scola, Dragic, Johnson, Beasley and Marshall were in the picture. I have seen pictures of other variations as well but this seems one of the newest. I couldn't help but wonder if the picture had a deeper meaning... but probably not.

Paul Coro Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro

How the #Suns sell themselves now. This went up over the arena box office Thursday. pic.twitter.com/Vn9clRdR

http://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/234100088803299328/photo/1

 

[JCSunsfan]

I was reading a Paul Coro tweet that contained a picture on how the Suns plan to promote themselves that was posted at the arena box office. It was interesting that neither Gortat nor Morris were in this picture, however, Scola, Dragic, Johnson, Beasley and Marshall were in the picture. I have seen pictures of other variations as well but this is seems to be one of the newest. I couldn't help but wonder if the picture had a deeper meaning... but probably not.




http://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/234100088803299328/photo/1

Two answers. Just introducing new players or Gortat and Morris were going to part of a deal.