Who is on Hall watch?

[Redheart]

It is official for me.

DA is a dead end; even if he improves all season long. The deal-breaker is accuracy; a capacity that is almost impossible to gain, you can improve slightly, but you either have it or you don't; clearly DA is not improving in any big steps, if at all.

Max Hall is too promissing not to find out; there is just something about that little bantum rooster that says he may be the real deal, smart, fast, accurate, fast release, anticipates well; a "level-above" type QB that could hold his own with the likes of Sam Bradford.

I would hate to loose this opportunity in this "transition-season", to rub the rookie-edges off of Max; while we I sadly believe, waste snaps on DA who has limited upside.

Check it out. As DA plays, Max Hall stands at the edge of field, so very close to the sideline, with his helmut on, chin strap fully buckled, staring intently out at the field at the offense and the defence while he read his wrist-band listening to the play call and sucking up learning.

Max is an intense type-A; good QB material. Matt was NEVER like that.

 

[Mulli]

Nope, not me. I see six interception games, and lots of pick sixes from an undrafted, scrappy, too short, no arm QB.

 

[desertdawg]

I don't know if Hall will be that good. I hope so. But I do know DA is that bad. I know so.

Its all up to coach, and there is plenty of season left. Next two games really seal the deal on DAs future. If he does well, that means the Cards are doing well. Also gives Hall a better shot at learning the speed of the game.

If Hall does come in, akuna matada. We didn't spend a pick or a player on him. I think he is all upside. With some reps and the coaching staff behind him, I could see him being successful.

Either way is OK, just don't go with Anderson if he continues too suck so bad.

 

[Redheart]

Nope, not me. I see six interception games, and lots of pick sixes ... .

Sort of like Bradfords game against us?

 

[Mulli]

Sort of like Bradfords game against us?

I didn't watch it. Did Bradford through six picks? Am I thinking of the wrong Bradford who was drafted in the first round?

 

[Shane]

Not on Hall watch.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I've been on it since the last preseason game. I never believed DA was more then a stop gap, and with a stop gap, their time eventually runs out.

This season would be an EPIC disaster if we don't win the division and Max Hall never gets 3-4 games under his belt as starter.

Everyone wants to point to Max "the undrafted FA" QB having no chance at success but I can't belive people who have cheered for the Wiz regime so feverishly the past two years don't see it as startling that he jettisoned Matt and NAMED MAX THE NUMBER 2 going into the season. That might be unprecedented and I highly doubt this would have happened if he didn't think the kid has major upside in his system.

What did Wiz get stupid all of a sudden? Somehow I have more confidence in the guy who led us to the Super Bowl and his opinion (and actions) rather then the arm chair QB's on this board who rely on lazy genaralities and probablities to make their point on why Hall won't succeed.

You just don't have the same credibility with me. Sorry

 

[Shane]

I've been on it since the last preseason game. I never believed DA was more then a stop gap, and with a stop gap, their time eventually runs out.

This season would be an EPIC disaster if we don't win the division and Max Hall never gets 3-4 games under his belt as starter.

Everyone wants to point to Max "the undrafted FA" QB having no chance at success but I can't belive people who have cheered for the Wiz regime so feverishly the past two years don't see it as startling that he jettisoned Matt and NAMED MAX THE NUMBER 2 going into the season. That might be unprecedented and I highly doubt this would have happened if he didn't think the kid has major upside in his system.

What did Wiz get stupid all of a sudden? Somehow I have more confidence in the guy who led us to the Super Bowl and his opinion (and actions) rather
then the arm chair QB's on this board who rely on lazy genaralities and probablities to make their point on why Hall won't succeed.

You just don't have the same credibility with me. Sorry

How is the season an "epic disaster" if we don't win the division?

 

[Mulli]

I've been on it since the last preseason game. I never believed DA was more then a stop gap, and with a stop gap, their time eventually runs out.

This season would be an EPIC disaster if we don't win the division and Max Hall never gets 3-4 games under his belt as starter.

Everyone wants to point to Max "the undrafted FA" QB having no chance at success but I can't belive people who have cheered for the Wiz regime so feverishly the past two years don't see it as startling that he jettisoned Matt and NAMED MAX THE NUMBER 2 going into the season. That might be unprecedented and I highly doubt this would have happened if he didn't think the kid has major upside in his system.

What did Wiz get stupid all of a sudden? Somehow I have more confidence in the guy who led us to the Super Bowl and his opinion (and actions) rather then the arm chair QB's on this board who rely on lazy genaralities and probablities to make their point on why Hall won't succeed.

You just don't have the same credibility with me. Sorry

Okay by me. I don;t think it is a matter of Whiz being stupid, I think he just figured the risk of having a crappy #2 is worth it. Heck, ML was kept around for a long time. Hall will just have to show me more than 4th quarters of preseason games. Yes, DA is bad. Hall is just very very likely to play like most other crappy undrafted rookies or any other crappy backup QB who has never practiced with the first team, let alone started an NFL game with three rookie WR's.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

How is the season an "epic disaster" if we don't win the division?

How is it NOT when you look at our division?

 

[Arizona's Finest]

How is the season an "epic disaster" if we don't win the division?

You missed the second part of the sentence - if we don't win the divison AND Max Hall never sees any time.

My point being we sold our soul to DA for nothing, and now we have no idea what we have in Hall going into yet ANOTHER offseason of starting from scratch under center.

 

[WisconsinCard]

It is official for me.

DA is a dead end; even if he improves all season long. The deal-breaker is accuracy; a capacity that is almost impossible to gain, you can improve slightly, but you either have it or you don't; clearly DA is not improving in any big steps, if at all.

Max Hall is too promissing not to find out; there is just something about that little bantum rooster that says he may be the real deal, smart, fast, accurate, fast release, anticipates well; a "level-above" type QB that could hold his own with the likes of Sam Bradford.

I would hate to loose this opportunity in this "transition-season", to rub the rookie-edges off of Max; while we I sadly believe, waste snaps on DA who has limited upside.

Check it out. As DA plays, Max Hall stands at the edge of field, so very close to the sideline, with his helmut on, chin strap fully buckled, staring intently out at the field at the offense and the defence while he read his wrist-band listening to the play call and sucking up learning.

Max is an intense type-A; good QB material. Matt was NEVER like that.

So let me get this straight. We are 2-1 tied for first place, and you think now is the time to bench our QB in favor of a rookie. If Whiz did that and Hall stinks it or even plays like a good rookie, he would be laugh out of the league.

Max Hall may be our QBOF, but if you believe our coaching staff can couch him up to starter material, then why can't they do that with DA? I have to believe that our coach (and me too) think that DA is the best QB on our roster as of right now, and gives us the best chance to win. Now that is not a ringing endorsement either, as our QB situation sucks right now. But thats my 2 cents on the matter.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Okay by me. I don;t think it is a matter of Whiz being stupid, I think he just figured the risk of having a crappy #2 is worth it. Heck, ML was kept around for a long time. Hall will just have to show me more than 4th quarters of preseason games. Yes, DA is bad. Hall is just very very likely to play like most other crappy undrafted rookies or any other crappy backup QB who has never practiced with the first team, let alone started an NFL game with three rookie WR's.

See Mulli thats proving my own point and following my own lead. I tried to believe what I saw in college and that first season with Matt, rather then listening to the coach. Mitch and all those guys were right. Matt was never Wiz's guy and it was there to see for anyone not so blinded by their love for Matt.

I was one of those guys. Count me in as a guy who will follow Wiz when betting on a QB going forward. His actions and words show he values Max more then pretty much everyone else, and he also has more information at his disposal to evaluate.

I am not saying its a definite that Hall is going to be a star. It just excites me how much our Coach seems to love him.

That speaks volumes to me when you look at the last two QB's he has led and his evaluations on them.

 

[Mulli]

See Mulli thats proving my own point and following my own lead. I tried to believe what I saw in college and that first season with Matt, rather then listening to the coach. Mitch and all those guys were right. Matt was never Wiz's guy and it was there to see for anyone not so blinded by their love for Matt.

I wasn't one of those guys. Count me in as a guy who will follow Wiz when betting on a QB going forward. His actions and words show he values Max more then pretty much everyone else, and he also has more information at his disposal to evaluate.

I am not saying its a definite that Hall is going to be a star. It just excites me how much our Coach seems to love him.

That speaks volumes to me when you look at the last two QB's he has led and his evaluations on them.

You are making a good point. I am just jaded as a long time Cardinal fan. I still dig the Whiz, I am just not buying Hall as NFL material. To me this whole thing reminds me of Stan Gelbaugh.

 

[mrbyte]

I think I have said this before...
be careful what you wish for...those wishing for Hall will probably be those calling for Skelton two weeks after we get Hall

I'm giving Da until the bye

 

[Arizona's Finest]

So let me get this straight. We are 2-1 tied for first place, and you think now is the time to bench our QB in favor of a rookie. If Whiz did that and Hall stinks it or even plays like a good rookie, he would be laugh out of the league.

Max Hall may be our QBOF, but if you believe our coaching staff can couch him up to starter material, then why can't they do that with DA? I have to believe that our coach (and me too) think that DA is the best QB on our roster as of right now, and gives us the best chance to win. Now that is not a ringing endorsement either, as our QB situation sucks right now. But thats my 2 cents on the matter.

I see your point.

But that you wanna bet 100 bucks we DON'T go 0-2 the next two games? Because PM and I'll take that bet.

So if thats such a given for me, you can see why I am not too excited about our prospects, even at 2-1.

Maybe I am delusional but I actually think Max gives us a better chance to win one of these next 2 games. At least thier isn't a bunch of tape on him to view and he can run around and add a new dimension to our team.

 

[Mulli]

I see your point.

But that you wanna bet 100 bucks we DON'T go 0-2 the next two games? Because PM and I'll take that bet.

So if thats such a given for me, you can see why I am not too excited about our prospects, even at 2-1.

Maybe I am delusional but I actually think Max gives us a better chance to win one of these next 2 games. At least thier isn't a bunch of tape on him to view and he can run around and add a new dimension to our team.

 

[Shane]

You missed the second part of the sentence - if we don't win the divison AND Max Hall never sees any time.

My point being we sold our soul to DA for nothing, and now we have no idea what we have in Hall going into yet ANOTHER offseason of starting from scratch under center.

I think whether Hall gets the time or not it is far from a disaster. Sitting on the sidelines learning has been good for many many many QB's over the years.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

LOL Probably.

But you remember I said this when Anderson has a 4 turnover game on this upcoming Sunday

 

[Mulli]

I think whether Hall gets the time or not it is far from a disaster. Sitting on the sidelines learning has been good for many many many QB's over the years.

Yep. Especially since the QB we draft in the first round next year will be SO much better than Hall.

 

[Mulli]

LOL Probably.

But you remember I said this when Anderson has a 4 turnover game on this upcoming Sunday

Avatar wager on the four turnovers?

 

[Shane]

How is it NOT when you look at our division?

I already asked how it is? You tell me how it is?

This division as a whole is irrelevant to this season being a disaster if we don't win it. We all know with the turnover on this roster that being anywhere near where we were was a futile proposition.

This is a transition year in its truest form. If we win the division it is just icing on a good 3 year cake. If we don't it is hardly a disaster.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I think whether Hall gets the time or not it is far from a disaster. Sitting on the sidelines learning has been good for many many many QB's over the years.

You won't be saying that next year when/if we pass on one of the stud QB's coming out (esp if its Luck) because Wiz wants to see what Hall can do after a season of clip board holding.

I like Hall more then most but I'll pull my hair out if that happens.

 

[slanidrac16]

I don't understand why it is so absurd to think of Max hall as our QB.

EVEN OUR COACH DOES!

If that wasn't true, then why would he put this team in a position to be ONE play from Max being our starter?

I would just like to see the kid get a week of practice in with the starters before being fed to the wolves.

That being said , if (when) we lose to the Chargers and Saints we will be 2-3 going into the bye. DA will start away at Seattle, home vs Tampa and away at Minnesota. If we are 2-7 or even 3-6 I believe Max will be inserted as starter week 10 vs the Seahawks. Of coarse all that changes with injury OR success of which we all pray for the latter.

Whiz will lose the starters if he were to put Max in right now unless there is some underlying turbulance brewing that we don't know about.

If we lose 4 out of our next 5 and can attribute the losses to the QB play, then and only then will we see Whiz make a change.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Avatar wager on the four turnovers?

If I get 3 turnovers + and you make it for a week and your on.