Who is on Hall watch?

[Mulli]

Marino + Duper + Clayton...... pretty close

Kinda sorta, not really.

 

[azsouthendzone]

I am going to say what everybody knows, but is scared to admit.

Max Hall is Jay Fiedler.

I am going to say what everybody knows, but is scared to admit.

Jay Fiedler is a HOF QB compared to DA.

 

[Mulli]

I am going to say what everybody knows, but is scared to admit.

Jay Fiedler is a HOF QB compared to DA.

 

[gamebird98]

Kinda sorta, not really.

All I was saying was that Marino was a rookie, those receivers didn't have alot of experience, yet still played well. I think a guy like Fitz could be a big help for someone like Hall

 

[WildBB]

Marino + Duper + Clayton...... pretty close

And Hall would be anything close to Marino?!


If we go Hall the season is already shot.

 

[gamebird98]

We don't know now.....DO WE!

 

[WildBB]

We don't know now.....DO WE!

He COULD be like a Steve Young TYPE. He isn't anything like Marino. Yes I KNOW THAT.

 

[gamebird98]

How do you know?

 

[Mulli]

How do you know?

By watching them play...

 

[gamebird98]

You have seen enough of Hall's play to know.....mights well cut him now then.

 

[Mulli]

You have seen enough of Hall's play to know.....mights well cut him now then.

Lots of QB's aren't the next Marino. You don't cut them for it.

 

[desertfitter]

If DA stays in at qb all the wideouts presently on the roster just might be on the ir list.

 

[azsouthendzone]

We will know soon either way. Either Anderson miraculously returns to Pro Bowl form or he struggles and a switch is made at some point, although conventional wisdom is out the door this year so maybe Whiz keeps DA in come hell or high water but I will give Whiz the benefit of the doubt that he will make a move at some point. It will be fun to watch unfold either way. I think Hall would add more interest, and if he does make a mistake or two there is the rookie excuse. I just wish we had one for DA.

 

[AzStevenCal]

No way in hell I Wang Locker. I have had all the inaccuracy I can handle with DA.

I wouldn't Wang Locker either.

Steve

 

[Zeno]

I am not sold on Hall but at least with him there is a glimmer of hope. BUT we've probably seen about the best we will get out of Anderson and haven't seen his worst yet.

I still say the only way Whisenhunt makes a change at QB is either DA gets hurt or we are officially out of the playoff hunt...his ego says he can win with DA, he can improve his game and he isn't going to admit failure unless he has absolutely no choice.

 

[TJ]

It boils down to this

Out best playmaker, Fitz, is being shut out simply because our QB cannot throw the ball within his catching radius. And that is absolutely embarrassing. He has more range than most WRs in the league; subtext, put the ball semi-close to his arm length and he will bring it in. When I see Anderson throw a ball either at his feet or 12' over his head, that is complete epic fail. Unequivocally.

That's why I am officially joining the Max Hall bandwagon. I dont mind if Whis is trying to pioneer something that I do not think has ever been done in the history of the NFL: have success with an UDFA in his first season in the league (and no, it took Kurt two years). I have to imagine a QB who had a career completion % of 65% would have to be at least marginally more accurate than the garbage we have behind center right now.

Really, the Fitzgerald instruction manual forr pitch and catch is simpler than putting a cheap Ikea coffee table together: toss ball, put close to fitz, let fitz catch ball and go for touchdown. Even if Hall takes his lumps in his first couple of games, it is worth it if he gets his feet wet right now. Anderson is not the future. Hall might be...but it would be worth it to find out so we can decide whether or not to pic a QB in the first round in 2011.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

No way in hell I Wang Locker. I have had all the inaccuracy I can handle with DA.

I am WAYYY more in Luck then Locker but I gotta asusme you are basing this assessment off of one game - no doubt a horrific game - but still just one game.

Nick Foles maybe the most accurate passer in the country and is certainly up there. In last years Holiday Bowl against Bo Pelinis team and defense he looked horrific.

As bad as Locker was, I wouldn't hold that one game against him. College o-lines can't handle Nebraska D-line and they have one of the best corners in the nation. Locker won't play at such a disadvantage in the NFL.

Unless he's drafted by the Bills

 

[kerouac9]

People who say that it can't get worse than Derek Anderson must not watch a lot of football. Derek Anderson looks bad, and he may be the worst starting quarterback in the NFL, but it can certainly be worse.

Jimmy Clausen went 16-33 for 188 yards and an INT last week. He fumbled three times and lost two of them. And everyone in the NFL considered him a better prospect than Max Hall.

If people have faith in Whis to make the correct decision with regard to the quarterback, I'm not sure why they're so quick to say that Derek Anderson isn't the answer and that Max Hall is the savior. Coach Whis obviously doesn't think so.

Even if we get a Top 10 pick (and I don't think we will), we'll likely pass on a QB in favor of a pass rusher or offensive tackle and look to get a Chad Henne type in the second. I'd start watching Christian Ponder (Florida State), Colin Kaepernick (Nevada), Jerrod Johnson (Texan A&M) and Pat Devlin (Delaware) now.

I'm not sure why "we" need to know what is there in Max Hall before the end of the season. The coaching staff sees him in practice and in the film room every day. They probably know that he can't run with the big boys yet--if at all. I'm sure they see his tiny frame and noodle arm and know that they don't want him anywhere near live action unless they are facing a 2/3rd empty stadium.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If people have faith in Whis to make the correct decision with regard to the quarterback, I'm not sure why they're so quick to say that Derek Anderson isn't the answer and that Max Hall is the savior. Coach Whis obviously doesn't think so.

That's a fair point. I'm in that group that wants to see Hall as soon as possible or at least that's what typically comes from my keyboard. Actually, though, what I really want is for Whiz to insert Hall as soon as possible because he feels Max gives this team the best chance to win. I am not on the "coach is an idiot if he doesn't start Hall this week" bandwagon and I think the same holds true for many of the people here that are pushing for Hall.

Steve

 

[Duckjake]

Starting a rookie QB with Fitz and 3 other rookie Wr's would never work in a million years. Never. Not ever. It would not even get Hall good experience. It would crush him forever. Then people could post that Whiz destroyed Hall's confidence.

I agree but we've also seen what happens with a weak veteran QB and a bunch of rookie and no name WRs. The team was 5-11 and finished dead last in points scored. Although one rookie WR had a super season.

We need Breaston and Doucet on the field asap no matter who is the QB.

 

[az1965]

I think I have said this before...
be careful what you wish for...those wishing for Hall will probably be those calling for Skelton two weeks after we get Hall

I'm giving Da until the bye

I think it is reasonable giving DA until the bye, I just don't think anything is going to change much with DA...

 

[azsouthendzone]

K9, for me it boils down to the fact that watching the team with DA under center is not a pleasant experience and gives no hope. I sat on the frying pan bleachers of Sun Devil Stadium and I saw my share of bad players. The difference is that some were so bad that there was no hope and no direction, like Jeff Blake. With Blake, you knew that his days were numbered and that each week would be a struggle. Then came Josh McCown, whose grit and toughness and least gave you hope that there was light at the end of the tunnel. Did he end up being a great QB? Not really, but he didn't hurt the team and he was fun to watch at times which was the opposite of Blake. I am not asking for perfection, I just want to see a team that makes me believe that no matter what happens this year, that there is hope for the future and reason to keep watching. Hall may not be the QBOF, but his style of play coupled with DA being DA should give any fan hope and would add to the entertainment value win or lose if a move is made. Let the standard personal attacks commence.

 

[kerouac9]

That's a fair point. I'm in that group that wants to see Hall as soon as possible or at least that's what typically comes from my keyboard. Actually, though, what I really want is for Whiz to insert Hall as soon as possible because he feels Max gives this team the best chance to win. I am not on the "coach is an idiot if he doesn't start Hall this week" bandwagon and I think the same holds true for many of the people here that are pushing for Hall.

Steve

Quick conspiracy theory: Whis is holding Max Hall until the last 5 games of the season. If the Cards are anywhere near .500 coming into December, he can unleash a quarterback on which there is no film on the NFL. The element of surprise is huge in the NFL, but the league eventually catches up to everyone.

A new QB with no film in a new-ish offense could be enough to squeak out three wins and take the division.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Quick conspiracy theory: Whis is holding Max Hall until the last 5 games of the season. If the Cards are anywhere near .500 coming into December, he can unleash a quarterback on which there is no film on the NFL. The element of surprise is huge in the NFL, but the league eventually catches up to everyone.

A new QB with no film in a new-ish offense could be enough to squeak out three wins and take the division.

Why not unleash the QB with no film now and steal wins now?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Quick conspiracy theory: Whis is holding Max Hall until the last 5 games of the season. If the Cards are anywhere near .500 coming into December, he can unleash a quarterback on which there is no film on the NFL. The element of surprise is huge in the NFL, but the league eventually catches up to everyone.

A new QB with no film in a new-ish offense could be enough to squeak out three wins and take the division.

A better conspiracy theory might be: DA starts each (winnable) game as the QB but pulls up lame on the first play. Hall comes in and does his best Flutie impression against these teams that haven't prepared for him.

I do think there will be a drop-off with Hall once the league has a chance to game plan for him. Still, I think he might be better than DA has been thus far. And he only has to help us out this season as we all know that Skelton is our true QBOF. At least until he actually gets a chance to play and shows us how wrong we are.

Steve