Who is on Hall watch?

[Shane]

You won't be saying that next year when/if we pass on one of the stud QB's coming out (esp if its Luck) because Wiz wants to see what Hall can do after a season of clip board holding.

I like Hall more then most but I'll pull my hair out if that happens.

We will absolutely win enough games to be out of that sweepstakes so all in all it doesn't even cross my mind.

That is plain and simply irrelevant IMO.

 

[Shane]

I don't understand why it is so absurd to think of Max hall as our QB.

EVEN OUR COACH DOES!

Can you find that and quote it for me please? With a link?

 

[desertdawg]

If Hall does start, he will do either better or worse than DA.(duh right?) First few games will probably blow chunks. But we should be able to see (like Bradfords games) if hes a joke or a good hopeful. Nobody knows.

Again I hope DA steps it up in these next two games. I am a fan first, DA hater second, I hope he goes for 300 +. If he can pull out a win against the bolts or the champs, I will go buy some shoes with gold fish in them and be on cloud 9.

 

[Shane]

Hall will start at some point this year. that is a given IMO. Especially with the beating DA takes weekly. It is inevitable.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

FYI I wouldn't say I am on "Hall watch" per se but rather....

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[Arizona's Finest]

We will absolutely win enough games to be out of that sweepstakes so all in all it doesn't even cross my mind.

That is plain and simply irrelevant IMO.

Man Shane I hope your right because a 6 win record gets us a Top 10 pick and a chance at Locker, maybe Luck, and Ryan Mallett and Ponder for sure.

 

[Mulli]

I am going to say what everybody knows, but is scared to admit.

Max Hall is Jay Fiedler.

 

[Shane]

Man Shane I hope your right because a 6 win record gets us a Top 10 pick and a chance at Locker, maybe Luck, and Ryan Mallett and Ponder for sure.

No way in hell I Wang Locker. I have had all the inaccuracy I can handle with DA.

 

[slanidrac16]

Can you find that and quote it for me please? With a link?

Hi Shane.

Whiz has named HAll as the back up QB. That puts him one play away from being our starter.

I don't have to find a direct quote from Whiz and I'm not saying he is hoping for injury or failure on DA's part. But when your head coach names a second string QB he is basically saying, "If anything happens to our starter, then Max Hall is our guy."

No?

 

[Mulli]

Man Shane I hope your right because a 6 win record gets us a Top 10 pick and a chance at Locker, maybe Luck, and Ryan Mallett and Ponder for sure.

I was into Mallett until he "threw away" the Bama game last week. That was horrificical!!!

 

[Mulli]

Hi Shane.

Whiz has named HAll as the back up QB. That puts him one play away from being our starter.

I don't have to find a direct quote from Whiz and I'm not saying he is hoping for injury or failure on DA's part. But when your head coach names a second string QB he is basically saying, "If anything happens to our starter, then Max Hall is our guy."

No?

He did the same with Leinart.

 

[Mitch]

I agree with you, Redheart ! After that abomination of a shovel pass, I had seen enough. The Cardinals really need Hall's accuracy, his mobility and his playmaking prowess.

Here's what I think Whiz's situation is. What he didn't get a chance to see is what Hall could do with the 1st team offense versus another team's starters...which made him reluctant to throw Hall in too early.

But, now, I found myself agreeing with Bickley and his urging this week to start Hall for the following reasons:

1. The longer the wait the harder it may be for Hall. He's used to playing and getting into a groove. Plus...too much time to think...can often be a deterrent.

2. It would not be the wisest of scenarios to wait for the Seahawks' game as Hall's first start...which was at the forefront of Bickley's argument. What the team doesn't need is first game jitters from Hall in that important game. He needs to have his feet wet by then. Plus, he needs to develop his timing and chemistry with the receivers.

3. I would absolutlely love to see Hall versus Brees...in a matchup of similar styles...how many of you saw Brees' first drive on MNF in the first game versus the Vikings? He was pressured by the LDE, stepped up into a clear passing lane and delivered a strike TD...and it looked almost exactly like the play Hall made in pre-season when he stepped up to elude the pressure and found an open Max Komar for the TD.

Mobility + Accuracy + Ability to Think Fast Under Pressure = The Three Biggest QB Keys to Winning in Today's NFL.

I believe Hall is head and shoulders better at all three than any QB on the Cardinals' roster today and through training camp.

 

[Shane]

Hi Shane.

Whiz has named HAll as the back up QB. That puts him one play away from being our starter.

I don't have to find a direct quote from Whiz and I'm not saying he is hoping for injury or failure on DA's part. But when your head coach names a second string QB he is basically saying, "If anything happens to our starter, then Max Hall is our guy."

No?

Big diffence between saying a guy can come in for a few games due to injury. As compared to saying they can be "our QBOF."

Coach had Matt as the back up for three years. What does that say? Tells me it doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

[JAB]

I agree with you, Redheart ! After that abomination of a shovel pass, I had seen enough. The Cardinals really need Hall's accuracy, his mobility and his playmaking prowess.

Here's what I think Whiz's situation is. What he didn't get a chance to see is what Hall could do with the 1st team offense versus another team's starters...which made him reluctant to throw Hall in too early.

But, now, I found myself agreeing with Bickley and his urging this week to start Hall for the following reasons:

1. The longer the wait the harder it may be for Hall. He's used to playing and getting into a groove. Plus...too much time to think...can often be a deterrent.

2. It would not be the wisest of scenarios to wait for the Seahawks' game as Hall's first start...which was at the forefront of Bickley's argument. What the team doesn't need is first game jitters from Hall in that important game. He needs to have his feet wet by then. Plus, he needs to develop his timing and chemistry with the receivers.

3. I would absolutlely love to see Hall versus Brees...in a matchup of similar styles...how many of you saw Brees' first drive on MNF in the first game versus the Vikings? He was pressured by the LDE, stepped up into a clear passing lane and delivered a strike TD...and it looked almost exactly like the play Hall made in pre-season when he stepped up to elude the pressure and found an open Max Komar for the TD.

Mobility + Accuracy + Ability to Think Fast Under Pressure = The Three Biggest QB Keys to Winning in Today's NFL.

I believe Hall is head and shoulders better at all three than any QB on the Cardinals' roster today and through training camp.

+1

It's not like we will win with Anderson the next two games. So get Hall ready for the push we have nothing to lose.

 

[slanidrac16]

He did the same with Leinart.

Not really. He (we) were somewhat salary strapped to a certain degree. ANd if he didn't have some comfort level with Max I think we would have went and got a veteran, especially after week 1 when you consider how contracts work.

Of course there would have been an injury to one Hall or Skelton who would have been placed on injured reserve. You know.."concussion" or something of that nature so as to not put either guy on wavers.

Let's face it. None of us really know what the hell is going on in Whiz's mind. There was a reason we moved up to grab Skelton. Maybe he is our QBOF. But we now know Whiz could give a rats ass on where a guy was drafted to determine his playing status.

I wish this qb thing would just go away, but I think we will be discussing it foe anothe 2 years.

 

[Mulli]

Starting a rookie QB with Fitz and 3 other rookie Wr's would never work in a million years. Never. Not ever. It would not even get Hall good experience. It would crush him forever. Then people could post that Whiz destroyed Hall's confidence.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I see your point.

But that you wanna bet 100 bucks we DON'T go 0-2 the next two games? Because PM and I'll take that bet.

So if thats such a given for me, you can see why I am not too excited about our prospects, even at 2-1.

Maybe I am delusional but I actually think Max gives us a better chance to win one of these next 2 games. At least thier isn't a bunch of tape on him to view and he can run around and add a new dimension to our team.

You would have to give me odds for that bet. As a gambler at heart and a numbers guy, I can tell you we wouldn't be favored in either game. I agree with your assements tho. I am just pointing out that we're not out of it yet, so I don't want to shake a reookies confidence, by throwing him in there too early. I saw his only two regular season passes up close. With our o-line he looked lost.

 

[Mulli]

If I get 3 turnovers + and you make it for a week and your on.

I win if DA turns it over fewer than 4 times. You have a DA Avatar for a month.

You win, I have a UofA avatar for a month.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Starting a rookie QB with Fitz and 3 other rookie Wr's would never work in a million years. Never. Not ever. It would not even get Hall good experience. It would crush him forever. Then people could post that Whiz destroyed Hall's confidence.

THIS

 

[desertdawg]

Starting a rookie QB with Fitz and 3 other rookie Wr's would never work in a million years. Never. Not ever. It would not even get Hall good experience. It would crush him forever. Then people could post that Whiz destroyed Hall's confidence.

Where do you buy your crystal balls homie? You gotta give the kid a shot if DA plays the same or worse as he already has.

 

[Mulli]

Where do you buy your crystal balls homie? You gotta give the kid a shot if DA plays the same or worse as he already has.

No, that would not be giving him a shot. It would serve no purpose whatsoever.

 

[desertdawg]

It will be Hall at some point. It will be sink or swim. After DA has already drowned.

 

[Russ Smith]

Man Shane I hope your right because a 6 win record gets us a Top 10 pick and a chance at Locker, maybe Luck, and Ryan Mallett and Ponder for sure.

I would hope we Luck out because I sure don't want to Ponder any of the other 3, I would take a Mallett to the QB's Locker with any of them.



Honestly Locker is a better athlete than a QB, Mallett is a big rocket armed QB who makes poor decisions and isn't accurate enough, he's better this year but still fell apart against Alabama in a game they would have won if he'd just not turned it over 3 times. Ponder just doesn't impress me.

Even Luck I love the kid but he's really not having a great year, even Harbaugh came out and said the passing game needs to be a lot better.

 

[gamebird98]

Starting a rookie QB with Fitz and 3 other rookie Wr's would never work in a million years. Never. Not ever. It would not even get Hall good experience. It would crush him forever. Then people could post that Whiz destroyed Hall's confidence.

Marino + Duper + Clayton...... pretty close

 

[azsouthendzone]

I already asked how it is? You tell me how it is?

This division as a whole is irrelevant to this season being a disaster if we don't win it. We all know with the turnover on this roster that being anywhere near where we were was a futile proposition.

This is a transition year in its truest form. If we win the division it is just icing on a good 3 year cake. If we don't it is hardly a disaster.

So how will you measure the success of this season?