Who Is The Best Team In The NFC??

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After the GB beat down, Atlanta almost losing every game they play and it finally working against them today and the cards not beating a team with a winning record all year(combined 13-34 record) who is the team people fear? Is it Carolina? Could the NFC run through Carolina? I think matchup wise I'd be more scared of playing the panthers than the pack. Thoughts?


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Whoops mods can you change that to Best and not Beat....thanks!


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Who's at home? Can't see the Cards coming close to winning in Green Bay!
 

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To paraphrase Harry, I can't see GB coming close to beating the Cardinals at Glendale. Especially, after watching last night's game.
 

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Carolina and Seattle... They both have the "it" factor at the most important position - QB, to go along with solid defenses. I see one of them coming out of the NFC.
 

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If they get home field for the playoffs, Packers will be tough to beat in Lambeau in January.
 

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I don't think there is a best team. Green Bay is good but last night showed how mediocre the WR's are, Rodgers makes them look better than they are, against a good defense they were exposed.

Carolina is good, nice balance, nice defense they haven't lost yet so they should get the title for now as best in the NFC.

The Cards are right there with the rest of the best in the NFC.
 

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I don't think there is a best team. Green Bay is good but last night showed how mediocre the WR's are, Rodgers makes them look better than they are, against a good defense they were exposed.

Carolina is good, nice balance, nice defense they haven't lost yet so they should get the title for now as best in the NFC.

The Cards are right there with the rest of the best in the NFC.

If they play like they did the 2nd half all the time, I think they will have a chance to dominate the NFC. They just need to play like that every quarter..
 

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As I have been saying all along, The Cardinals are the best team in the NFC.
 

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Carolina and Seattle... They both have the "it" factor at the most important position - QB, to go along with solid defenses. I see one of them coming out of the NFC.

Carson Palmer is better than both of them to go along with a solid defense. Why aren't they coming out of the NFC :shrug:
 

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I don't think there is a best team. Green Bay is good but last night showed how mediocre the WR's are, Rodgers makes them look better than they are, against a good defense they were exposed.

Carolina is good, nice balance, nice defense they haven't lost yet so they should get the title for now as best in the NFC.

The Cards are right there with the rest of the best in the NFC.

You can throw the Falcons in the mix with the Cardinals too... Yes, I know they lost to the Bucs, but like the Cardinals they are inconsistent and it will be interesting :)
 
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Yeah I just can't trust the cardinals yet until they beat someone....the teams they beat have a winning percentage right over 27% that is not impressive


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Green Bay at home is the best.

Then maybe Carolina or the Cards. Gotta give the nod to Carolina now because of their record, but I do think they they get exposed next week against the Pack. They should also get tests from the rejuvenated Saints and the G-Men this season, as well as @ATL. So plenty of chances for them to come down to earth, I think.

Let's put it this way. If the Cards can go 6-2 in the second half of their season, they will be the best, because they will clearly be the most tested of the NFC contenders.
 

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Carolina and Seattle... They both have the "it" factor at the most important position - QB, to go along with solid defenses. I see one of them coming out of the NFC.

Wilson also has the "OH _ _ it" factor given that line of his.
 

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Carolina is undefeated, so this early in the season they should be at the top, though they also have the advantage of playing one less game due to already having their bye. Plus they haven't played tonight, so literally as of right now, they've played two fewer games. They could lose tonight, and next week while we have a bye and we might go into the Seattle game with the same record as Carolina. Not saying they will, but they have to play two games before we play our next one.

I don't think they can score enough to win a shootout, if they were to ever get in one. Isn't their best WR Ted Ginn Jr? He's only caught 18 passes. Their best receiver is actually their TE Olsen, with 27 catches. They also have a pretty tough schedule. Colts (tonight), Packers, Falcons TWICE, resurgent Saints, and likely the Cowboys once they have Romo back. As well as the Giants, and Bucs, Titans, and Redskins. So not exactly easy.

The Packers have been exposed. They are still a great team, but their offense isn't the offense you think they have. Too many injuries and sub-par play this season has brought them down to earth.

Rodgers only has 1568 yards passing so far, which is about 85 yards per game less then his best season 224 ypg vs 309 ypg, and about 50 less then last year. Eddie Lacy is not playing well, they've had to turn to James Starks. Remember how people talk about them like us having played bad teams. Yes, but our offense is massively exceeding our previous efforts and just about everyone's in the league, while theirs is massively receding from their previous efforts, and was as they said on the broadcast last night 22nd in the league passing (before last nights horrible peformance). In other words, their offense stinks by their standards against bad teams, and overall their offense simply doesn't look that good.

Raise your hand if you thought (even though with one more game played) you thought Carson Palmer would have 818 more passing yards then Rodgers? Or if you want per game yardages to more directly compare, then it's 298 (Palmer) vs 224 (Rodgers). Palmer is averaging 74 more yards per game passing.

They've had injuries to their WR core, and it just doesn't look like they have that downfield attack. Again, they've needed to turn to a former castoff to regain some semblance of what they have, James Jones. They are not the air it out team everyone still thinks they are. Maybe next year... likely not the rest of this year. I think there is a good chance they fade down the stretch.

They play the Panthers, Vikings twice, Cowboys (w/Romo), Raiders, and us. Also games against Bears, and two against the lions.

Seahawks should be 3-5, they've played like a 3-5 team, and barely beat the Romoless Cowboys on a losing streak. The Seahawks still have 4 losses which matches what they did last year. They are still a semi-dangerous team, but they could be out of it by the end of November. We have to beat them, but they clearly look like two steps back from their previous team. The OL is a mess, their offense stinks, Wilson is regressing (though nothing like Kaep), and the legion of boom hasn't been so great this year. They still haven't assimilated Graham, and their backup TE Luke Wilson at times has outplayed him. Like others I think there is a good chance they finish 3rd in the NFC west. We've scored almost a hundred points more then them. The ONLY reason they are in the discussion is because of their past... They have done NOTHING this season to merit anything. Their greatest moment this season was a referee call to win the game against the hapless Lions.

They do NOT have an easy schedule. You can't take us out of that equation. They have to play us TWICE, the Steelers, Vikings, and Rams. That's five tough games. Plus they have the Ravens, Browns, and 49ers... and none of those three teams are going to lay down and die for the Seahawks (assuming Seahawks aren't playing against Johnny Football).

Atlanta has been close in every game, and now has dropped two of them. Still some unknowns, but they haven't been blowing people out. They have to play the Colts, Panthers twice, Saints, Vikings. They also have games against the Bucs, Jags, and 49ers.


The NFC east is a mess, and some bad team is going to get a free playoff spot. Giants have the edge and have an offense. The Cowboys have dug themselves too big of a hole because of key injuries in a division that should of been theirs with ease.

Giants have Patriots, Jets, Dolphins, Panthers, Vikings. Also have games against Bucs, Redskins, and Eagles.

Rams and surprisingly Vikings are in the mix. Rams have a great shot at getting a wildcard, and have a better shot at the division then the Seahawks. They are finally utilizing Tavon Austin and Gurley is all that and a bag of chips.

Rams have Vikings, Ravens, Bengals, us, Seahawks. Also games with Bears, Lions, Bucs, and 49ers.

Vikings have Raiders, Packers twice, Falcons, Seahawks, Cardinals, Giants. Also a game against the Bears. This is likely the toughest schedule remaining.

When I look at our team, we're exceeding ourselves in just about everything. We have everything in place for a championship run, but we've let a couple of games get away that we shouldn't of. Some fluky stuff, some bad officiating, some mental lapses. Correctable stuff mostly. I think we can win a grind it out game with Denver or a shootout with New England. Not saying we would, just saying we are built to play either way, and legitimately can. I think we have a great shot at #1 seed, and we have the talent for it, but we aren't there yet, and those two losses means we don't deserve it... yet. But we have a great shot to get it by the end of the season. We play the Packers, Rams, Bengals, Vikings once and the Seahawks twice. Also 49ers and Eagles.

Need to beat Seattle. A win against Seattle almost knocks them out of the chase. They are hanging by a thread and we get a chance to cut it in two weeks. If we win, they then have losses against both us and the Rams, while having only one shot against each of us to tie the series. We control our destiny and the only team that we can't set back is Carolina. Otherwise we have the opportunity to get above the Packers, Vikings, Rams, and Seattle. Atlanta is another team we don't play, but they already have two losses as well, so we aren't looking up at them.
 
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Carson Palmer is better than both of them to go along with a solid defense. Why aren't they coming out of the NFC :shrug:

Love Carson... He's one of my favorites on this team for sure. But, he can't make plays the way Wilson and Newton can.
Until Seattle loses - and, particularly until we go to Seattle and beat them, I still consider them the front-runner. With Carolina second and the Cards third.
All three teams have a hole or two with arguably the Panthers having the fewest, or least impactful.
I think the Cards massive inability to get to the opposing QB is perhaps the biggest hole of all. You can argue Seattle's o-line is the biggest hole, however, Lynch is still a factor and Wilson more than makes up for it with his legs and football IQ.

We travel to Seattle right after our BYE. That should be a very telling game to say the least...
 

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Love Carson... He's one of my favorites on this team for sure. But, he can't make plays the way Wilson and Newton can.

Until Seattle loses - and, particularly until we go to Seattle and beat them, I still consider them the front-runner. With Carolina second and the Cards third.

All three teams have a hole or two with arguably the Panthers having the fewest, or least impactful.

I think the Cards massive inability to get to the opposing QB is perhaps the biggest hole of all. You can argue Seattle's o-line is the biggest hole, however, Lynch is still a factor and Wilson more than makes up for it with his legs and football IQ.



We travel to Seattle right after our BYE. That should be a very telling game to say the least...


Palmer can do much more than Wilson and Cam strictly with his arm. Wilson has a great football IQ and is mentally tough, but he's not the type to lead a high powered offense, but rather one that relies on running the ball and controlling the clock. Cam is the most athletic QB in the league, but lacks the requisite decision making, pocket presence and consistent accuracy to be a next level talent.

Right now, the more productive QB is Palmer.
 

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Palmer can do much more than Wilson and Cam strictly with his arm. Wilson has a great football IQ and is mentally tough, but he's not the type to lead a high powered offense, but rather one that relies on running the ball and controlling the clock. Cam is the most athletic QB in the league, but lacks the requisite decision making, pocket presence and consistent accuracy to be a next level talent.

Right now, the more productive QB is Palmer.

I agree in general but yesterday Palmer missed Floyd and Fitz wide open for long plays or TD's. he's been struggling a bit all year with the deep balls. It's bizarre to think how good his stats are already, 20 TD 6 INT's and realize he could have 25 or more TD's and at least 2 of those picks came on uncalled PI plays(the one yesterday the deflection against the Steelers). He could have easily had 450 yards passing yesterday.

I joked about it earlier in the week but you knew with Clevelands issues stopping the run they were going to expect us to run the ball and BA was going to come out throwing, and he did.
 

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None of the other top records in the NFC belong to teams at the level of New England or Denver (at least the Broncos D is elite, beyond question). If we get in the playoffs, we'll have a legit shot to do damage.
 

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I'm happy to be 6-2, but I still don't know what kind of damage this team can do in the playoffs until it actually beats someone with a pulse. There's a TON of talent on this team, at least on the offensive side of the ball (and in the secondary), but jury's still out on them. That said, court's in order the next two weeks. They win those two games and they'll make a true-believer out of me. Even if they split, I'll start juicing a little more Kool-Aid again, but they have to beat SOMEONE good before I fully buy in.
 

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Right now, the more productive QB is Palmer.

I might have misunderstood the purpose of this thread then...I didn't think it was a question about who is the more productive QB, but who is the best "team"... :shrug:
 
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Doesn't matter how productive he is if we keep putting the ball on the turf


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I'm happy to be 6-2, but I still don't know what kind of damage this team can do in the playoffs until it actually beats someone with a pulse. There's a TON of talent on this team, at least on the offensive side of the ball (and in the secondary), but jury's still out on them. That said, court's in order the next two weeks. They win those two games and they'll make a true-believer out of me. Even if they split, I'll start juicing a little more Kool-Aid again, but they have to beat SOMEONE good before I fully buy in.

I think the point is it's not clear who really is "good" in the NFC? Green Bay looked horrible last night, Carolina looks good but not great, Atlanta, the Rams, Seattle etc. The Vikings have a good defense and a great RB but they are passing for under 200 yards a game.

I think the Cards have the most explosive offense in the NFC, if we can avoid playing in Green Bay we have as good a chance as anybody else to get out of the NFC.

We have to fix some things on defense and not turn the ball over as much but we're pretty explosive.

3 weeks ago I'd have said NE's defense was far inferior to ours, they are getting better every week I think it's largely the front 7 I think their secondary is mediocre. I think their offense is as good or better than ours because of Brady but I'm not sure there's another team in the NFL that has a better offense than us when hitting on all cylinders.

Denver's defense is pretty special, I'm not sure they have enough offense to win so they better hope they get home field all the way through.
 

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I think the point is it's not clear who really is "good" in the NFC? Green Bay looked horrible last night, Carolina looks good but not great, Atlanta, the Rams, Seattle etc. The Vikings have a good defense and a great RB but they are passing for under 200 yards a game.

I think the Cards have the most explosive offense in the NFC, if we can avoid playing in Green Bay we have as good a chance as anybody else to get out of the NFC.

We have to fix some things on defense and not turn the ball over as much but we're pretty explosive.

3 weeks ago I'd have said NE's defense was far inferior to ours, they are getting better every week I think it's largely the front 7 I think their secondary is mediocre. I think their offense is as good or better than ours because of Brady but I'm not sure there's another team in the NFL that has a better offense than us when hitting on all cylinders.

Denver's defense is pretty special, I'm not sure they have enough offense to win so they better hope they get home field all the way through.

I agree with most of this... But if I were placing bets today, I would rank the NFC as: 1.) Seattle, 2.) Carolina, 3.) Cards, 4.) Packers, 5.) Rams, 6.) Vikes/Falcons

The separation between the top 4 is very tiny and any of them can pop out of the NFC. But when I look at the overall team, their strengths and weaknesses, I can't get past the glaring fact that the Cards can't get to the opposing QB, as well as the inconsistent (at best) play of our ILBers...
 
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