Who is tired with the same Whiz BS during Post game presser??

[Cards_Campos]

The man says the exact same things over and over and over. "We made some mental mistakes and we let some big plays slip by" "There was some things working but we didn't do the little things" blah blah blah blah...

Dude you are the Coach...We have lost the same games, the same intensity, the same execution, the same way, the same bullcrap excuses.... CHANGE IT. Take some responsibility!!! For once!!! I dont care if we got lucky in the no huddle....Obviously with us Lucky is better than the crap you put out on the field. Take some chances...do something DIFFERENT. Or don't and your As errr butt will be gone soon. I dont know which to hope for.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Don't put too much into a presser. It is just window dressing and changes nothing which is done on the field. In a loss, about the only thing it can do is cause friction for saying the wrong thing. Keep it boring and simple, and tell your team behind closed doors what you think

 

[Buckybird]

The man says the exact same things over and over and over. "We made some mental mistakes and we let some big plays slip by" "There was some things working but we didn't do the little things" blah blah blah blah...
Dude you are the Coach...We have lost the same games, the same intensity, the same execution, the same way, the same bullcrap excuses.... CHANGE IT. Take some responsibility!!! For once!!! I dont care if we got lucky in the no huddle....Obviously with us Lucky is better than the crap you put out on the field. Take some chances...do something DIFFERENT. Or don't and your As errr butt will be gone soon. I dont know which to hope for.

What part is Wiz wrong in saying that? It's true & we keep seeing much of the same crap, from most of the same peeps. I'm sorry but I can't blame everything we've seen for the last 2 years on the HC. Now, if you would've said the coach is wrong for playing Porter at OLB, Levi & Keith at OT and playing a suspect SS in coverage I would agree. Kolb made 2 throws yesterday as bad as any DA did last year, though he's a better player.

Players aren't executing at a winning level on a consistant basis. Like I've said many times already this year, IMO the talent to win just isn't good enough.

 

[Stout]

I'm with you. How about a little responsibility? How about not sounding like a jackass without a clue? How about 'we really should have stuck with the no-huddle, because it was working'? How about 'we need to evaluate our personnel this week, because I don't feel all of our players were putting in an acceptable performance'?

This team has no sense of responsibility. The players see that the coaches can just make all the mistakes that they make, over and over, not correct them, and not have anything happen about it. The players do the same stupid things over and over again, and they don't get demoted for it. Why bother even trying to correct those little mistakes if they'll constantly be let off the hook by their coach? Baffles the mind.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

"The system works."

 

[AZ Native]

I'm with you. How about a little responsibility? How about not sounding like a jackass without a clue? How about 'we really should have stuck with the no-huddle, because it was working'? How about 'we need to evaluate our personnel this week, because I don't feel all of our players were putting in an acceptable performance'?

This team has no sense of responsibility. The players see that the coaches can just make all the mistakes that they make, over and over, not correct them, and not have anything happen about it. The players do the same stupid things over and over again, and they don't get demoted for it. Why bother even trying to correct those little mistakes if they'll constantly be let off the hook by their coach? Baffles the mind.

How about you become the coach so we can all criticize you? You must be smarter than him.

 

[gmabel830]

You mean all of those times good coaches like Bellicheck and Tomlin go off in press conferences? Hell, we should just be thankful our coach uses voice inflection during his press conferences!!

 

[Seandonic]

I do agree that Whiz should open up more and make some informative if not even stirring comments such as:

'we really should have stuck with the no-huddle, because it was working'. and 'we need to evaluate our personnel this week, because I don't feel all of our players were putting in an acceptable performance'.

But...there is a fine line between opening up a bit more and a Denny Green type meltdown. Given the choice between the two, I choose Whiz.

One thing that does make me wonder, is that if he is so dead pan during these pressers, how could he possibly be much different when a little motivation is needed behind close doors? I just don't see it. And I certainly don't see it reflected in his players performance on the field.

People on this board certainly use words like lackluster, uninspired, gutless, and emotionless a lot to describe the style of play they see from the Cards. Maybe there is some merit to this.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Nope. Not at all.

I think Whiz does a good job in his manditory media day. He is cool calm collected, and tries to answer the questions as truthfully as he can without putting his foot in his mouth, insulting anyone, and tries to take responsibility, while sticking to what he believes.

I don't always agree with his answers, but he is not hired to appease me and only me and what I think. He has thousands of fans, players, coaches, and administrative people who he is representing, speaking for, and giving answers too.

He is not sitting at the bar telling you what is on his mind.

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Anyone who has a problem with the presser our Coach gives, I would LOVE, absolutely LOVE to hear what you would say in his place.

And, yes be prepared to defend yourself.

Those pressers are P&R strictly.

Ok, and if you don't want to tell me what you would say in your press conference, then please tell me what coach in the NFL, or college that gives a press conference interview to your liking so we have an idea of what any you would be satisfied with.

Good grief. Are we going to break down how the water boy effected the game next ?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

One thing that does make me wonder, is that if he is so dead pan during these pressers, how could he possibly be much different when a little motivation is needed behind close doors? I just don't see it. And I certainly don't see it reflected in his players performance on the field.

People on this board certainly use words like lackluster, uninspired, gutless, and emotionless a lot to describe the style of play they see from the Cards. Maybe there is some merit to this.

If you are a professional football player, being played millions of dollars to play the game, and your a MAN then if you are looking for the coach to motivate you, and putting that onus on him.

Then you are a one sorry case for a professional football player.

 

[Cardiac]

Nope. Not at all.

I think Whiz does a good job in his manditory media day. He is cool calm collected, and tries to answer the questions as truthfully as he can without putting his foot in his mouth, insulting anyone, and tries to take responsibility, while sticking to what he believes.

I don't always agree with his answers, but he is not hired to appease me and only me and what I think. He has thousands of fans, players, coaches, and administrative people who he is representing, speaking for, and giving answers too.

He is not sitting at the bar telling you what is on his mind.

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Anyone who has a problem with the presser our Coach gives, I would LOVE, absolutely LOVE to hear what you would say in his place.

And, yes be prepared to defend yourself.

Those pressers are P&R strictly.

Ok, and if you don't want to tell me what you would say in your press conference, then please tell me what coach in the NFL, or college that gives a press conference interview to your liking so we have an idea of what any you would be satisfied with.

Good grief. Are we going to break down how the water boy effected the game next ?

If you are a professional football player, being played millions of dollars to play the game, and your a MAN then if you are looking for the coach to motivate you, and putting that onus on him.

Then you are a one sorry case for a professional football player.

 

[conraddobler]

The guy is about as exciting as watching paint dry in these press conferences but by comparison if you were at a New England presser and unleashed the Whiz fury on them most of them might die of excitement.

I think it'd be funny if a coach started going off and actually slinging out the truth.

Russ Grimm told me 50 frickin times that this would be the year Levi "get's it", the dude swore on his Springsteen ticket stubs.

Rod Graves is killing me!!!!!! I can't work under these conditions....

Now that would be entertaining.

 

[Duckjake]

How about you become the coach so we can all criticize you? You must be smarter than him.

Considering some of the goofballs I've seen coach in Arizona and other places he might be. It is just amazing that some people are so naive that they think just because a guy has the title of Head Coach or Defensive Coordinator he's some kind of football genius.

As for the press conferences coaches can't do anything other than dole out coachspeak. If they say anything even the least bit controversial or out of the ordinary the media and internetworld go postal on them.

 

[NJCardFan]

What part is Wiz wrong in saying that? It's true & we keep seeing much of the same crap, from most of the same peeps. I'm sorry but I can't blame everything we've seen for the last 2 years on the HC. Now, if you would've said the coach is wrong for playing Porter at OLB, Levi & Keith at OT and playing a suspect SS in coverage I would agree. Kolb made 2 throws yesterday as bad as any DA did last year, though he's a better player.

Players aren't executing at a winning level on a consistant basis. Like I've said many times already this year, IMO the talent to win just isn't good enough.

So, the idiotic play calling falls on the players? Um, if you say so. Also, if the coach doesn't make that much a difference, explain to me why the Bills are 3-0 with the same personnel from last season.

 

[JC_AZ]

"The system works."

Apparently Secretary Napolitano has just weighed in

 

[Stout]

How about you become the coach so we can all criticize you? You must be smarter than him.

Ah yes, the famous 'the coach must be infallible because fan criticism is unwarranted' post. Has about all the relevance of a freezer in Alaska.

Rugby, I think you're way off base. How would I have conducted myself in the presser had I been CKW? I'm not going to type out a script, but these are a few choice words that I would have used.

'We're making the same mental mistakes we've made for a long time. They are unacceptable, and if a player can't do his job, we will find a player who can.' (holding players accountable without having to throw specific players under the bus? *gasp* it actually is possible!)

'Some of this loss definitely fell upon the coaching. I decided to play conservative in the second half on offense, when we should have stuck with the no-huddle. Other coaching mistakes were made, and they will be addressed. Hindsight is 20-20, but we need to do a better job of making in-game adjustments.' (coaches taking responsibility? with this team? never!)

'We have to do a better job of protecting the passer. Period.' (stating the obvious? priceless)

Nah, bland and boring is the ONLY way to go, clearly

 

[CtCardinals78]

You mean all of those times good coaches like Bellicheck and Tomlin go off in press conferences? Hell, we should just be thankful our coach uses voice inflection during his press conferences!!

Two key differences though Tomlin and Belichick are good coaches and their teams usually play at a high level and win consistently.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Rugby, I think you're way off base.

So off base, that you go on to answer the question ?

How would I have conducted myself in the presser had I been CKW? I'm not going to type out a script, but these are a few choice words that I would have used.

'We're making the same mental mistakes we've made for a long time. They are unacceptable, and if a player can't do his job, we will find a player who can.' (holding players accountable without having to throw specific players under the bus? *gasp* it actually is possible!)

'Some of this loss definitely fell upon the coaching. I decided to play conservative in the second half on offense, when we should have stuck with the no-huddle. Other coaching mistakes were made, and they will be addressed. Hindsight is 20-20, but we need to do a better job of making in-game adjustments.' (coaches taking responsibility? with this team? never!)

'We have to do a better job of protecting the passer. Period.' (stating the obvious? priceless)

Nah, bland and boring is the ONLY way to go, clearly

Fair enough.

 

[crisper57]

Every week he says something along the lines of "we'll use this as an opportunity to learn and get better..."

I've been hearing this line for years. Just once I would like to hear him say, "We executed the gameplan perfectly. Everyone knew their responsibilities. We had no mental lapses."

Apparently preparation is not this team's strong suit.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Two key differences though Tomlin and Belichick are good coaches and their teams usually play at a high level and win consistently.

I've also heard Belichick blame himself instead of laying blame on players and Tomlin has given speeches that made ME want to run through a brick wall for him after a loss.

there's no comparing those two guys to wiz in any way shape or form at this point.

 

[CtCardinals78]

I've also heard Belichick blame himself instead of laying blame on players and Tomlin has given speeches that made ME want to run through a brick wall for him after a loss.

there's no comparing those two guys to wiz in any way shape or form at this point.

Two press conferences stick out to me with Tomlin the one a few years back with the embarrassing loss at home to the Raiders and after week one in this years loss to the Ravens. Tomlin went off on the Steelers effort and yet the effort in those two games are still better than the usual Cardinal effort and the Cardinals losses are usually more embarassing. Some of you can say what you will about PC's but they are a very public way for the HC to convey messages to their team and displaying their displeasure without throwing players under the bus.

 

[Capital Card]

x2.

The pressers are all beyond dull. Virtually every player/coach who has a microphone in front of them is coached up to not say anything at all. They've all perfected the art of giving nothing but canned answers.

To me, Whiz looks extremely professional, which I prefer to the wild unpredictability of Denny Green. Frankly, it's what the Cardinals need to portrey as most of the organization still thinks our ownership/coaching staff are a bunch of bumbling idiots. (Denny was fun to listen though.)

I take a lot of comfort when I hear players on programs, such as Big Red Rage, go a bit off script and reveal that the Coach we see in front of the camera is in no way what he is like behind closed doors. I suspect Whiz is an EXTREME hard @#$, and it's why some players (*cough* Leinart *cough*) couldn't stand him.

Go Cards!!!

 

[cardpa]

What part is Wiz wrong in saying that? It's true & we keep seeing much of the same crap, from most of the same peeps. I'm sorry but I can't blame everything we've seen for the last 2 years on the HC. Now, if you would've said the coach is wrong for playing Porter at OLB, Levi & Keith at OT and playing a suspect SS in coverage I would agree. Kolb made 2 throws yesterday as bad as any DA did last year, though he's a better player.

Players aren't executing at a winning level on a consistant basis. Like I've said many times already this year, IMO the talent to win just isn't good enough.

I just don't agree with this, the real problem is expectations set by the coach, discipline and accountability. The team is soft because Whiz is soft.

 

[cardpa]

I coached middle school girls soccer for 7 years and I think I had higher expectations than Whiz has of his players.

The girls knew and understood exactly where they stood and what I expected of each and every player including those who I felt had leadership abilities. If a girl kept making the same mistakes over and over I would talk to her, tell her exactly what the problem was and what the consequences would be if they did not take steps to correct their mistakes. I would also tell them what it was they needed to do to fix those mistakes.

For the most part it wasn't physical limitations or skills it was mental mistakes. Not focusing on their responsibilities, making the same bad decisions, and not playing in the moment. For some it was lack of effort. Some lost their starting position and some saw reduced playing time until they corrected their mistakes. I expected leadership from the ones I felt could lead. Some grasped the lead others lost their position as captains of the team. Some received the position of captain as they showed improvement in leadership. Yes I actually stripped girls of their captains band and handed them to other players during the season.

Every player was better at the end of each season and our results showed it. Even in the years where our talent level wasn't there we still put forth maximum effort and were competitive and pulled off some upsets over stronger better teams simply because we left it all on the field.

That's all I want from the Cardinals. That is not what we get. It's the least we should expect from the head coach.

 

[conraddobler]

I coached middle school girls soccer for 7 years and I think I had higher expectations than Whiz has of his players.

The girls knew and understood exactly where they stood and what I expected of each and every player including those who I felt had leadership abilities. If a girl kept making the same mistakes over and over I would talk to her, tell her exactly what the problem was and what the consequences would be if they did not take steps to correct their mistakes. I would also tell them what it was they needed to do to fix those mistakes.

For the most part it wasn't physical limitations or skills it was mental mistakes. Not focusing on their responsibilities, making the same bad decisions, and not playing in the moment. For some it was lack of effort. Some lost their starting position and some saw reduced playing time until they corrected their mistakes. I expected leadership from the ones I felt could lead. Some grasped the lead others lost their position as captains of the team. Some received the position of captain as they showed improvement in leadership. Yes I actually stripped girls of their captains band and handed them to other players during the season.

Every player was better at the end of each season and our results showed it. Even in the years where our talent level wasn't there we still put forth maximum effort and were competitive and pulled off some upsets over stronger better teams simply because we left it all on the field.

That's all I want from the Cardinals. That is not what we get. It's the least we should expect from the head coach.

That's exactly how you should coach.

Here's my theory why Whiz dosen't.

"You sir, did not exhibit the proper effort out there, we've talked about your lack of effort and you will be benched if you do that agaiin!"

Cue the next game.

Same mistake happens, player is benched, the replacement sucks, you lose the game, other players snicker at you and start counting down the days until you are fired.

IMO you have to be on a whole different level to get a professional football team to fall in line, mostly they have to believe that you are better than the coaches on the other team.

If they don't believe that, then you're just going to have to fake it and never really confront certain players.

That's my best guess anyhow.