Who starts at QB game 1?

[Crimson Warrior]

If he stayed healthy and put up 30/12ish/4000 and won a game in the playoffs I think he’d have a really strong case to stay QB for another year.

It would be foolish not to resign him after a performance like this. If we went 11-5 and won the division with the above numbers, would you really let Bradford go and give the reins to an unproven sophomore QB?

Good QBs last a long time in this league. If Rosen is the real deal, it won't kill him sit a couple of years, and we won't lose anything either.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It would be foolish not to resign him after a performance like this. If we went 11-5 and won the division with the above numbers, would you really let Bradford go and give the reins to an unproven sophomore QB?

Good QBs last a long time in this league. If Rosen is the real deal, it won't kill him sit a couple of years, and we won't lose anything either.

Yeah... I’d prob pick up the second year option but wouldn’t do anything else.

 

[MadCardDisease]

You are, of course, right. My bad. Thanks for clarifying. Still, it is far away from the Cardinals necessarily paying 20 million.

Yeah the only way Bradford can make $20M this year is if he is Active for all 16 games and then gets cut before the 2019 new league year begins in March which would accelerate his signing bonus of $10M.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Given the cap space allocated to the two vet QBs it is a legitimate question as to why SK spent that much and still went with a QB in the draft (who has his own health issues besides).

All that cap space is 26 mil for three QB's. That is starter money for one QB these days. Signing Bradford for 15 or 20 mil doesn't matter, if he doesn't start one game, if Rosen pays off and wins the job out of camp you spent 26 mil for your starter , backup, and number 3 QB....Chump Change.

 

[HeHasRosen]

All that cap space is 26 mil for three QB's. That is starter money for one QB these days. Signing Bradford for 15 or 20 mil doesn't matter, if he doesn't start one game, if Rosen pays off and wins the job out of camp you spent 26 mil for your starter , backup, and number 3 QB....Chump Change.

Yup. Its nothing for a guy we know can play. A guy who we think can play. And.. well.. Glennon.

Make no mistake about it. Bradford will start. The Rams might kill him in week 2. Glennon will come in and suck. Rosen will play this year. Its not if, but when. Just not week 1

 

[THESMEL]

I think Sam is a pro bowl qb and will stay healthy and Rosen or Glennon will have to play elite to take it from him - I hope they do - but many 10 plus completion streaks is my prediction for Sam or who takes the ball out of his hands

 

[oaken1]

I think Sam is a pro bowl qb and will stay healthy and Rosen or Glennon will have to play elite to take it from him - I hope they do - but many 10 plus completion streaks is my prediction for Sam or who takes the ball out of his hands

stay positive smelly,... Sam needs your support!!

This year is his interview for the rest of his career so he really needs for it to go well

 

[THESMEL]

stay positive smelly,... Sam needs your support!!

This year is his interview for the rest of his career so he really needs for it to go well

Chicken little caught the sky that was falling last month and Sam and Josh might just toss it through the universe - Star one or star 2? improved our QB room from none to spectacular potential- good job Keim and Cards

 

[Cardiac]

Bradford will start if healthy. His years of experience will give the Cards a better chance to win games and his ability to read D's should limit the hits he takes from our needing to gel Oline. Rosen simply won't be as good at getting rid of the ball quickly enough to avoid getting killed.

With the new CBA one can argue that there simply isn't enough reps to have a true QB battle for all three to get a fair shot. That leaves Glennon out in the cold and that's not a bad thing. Rosen may get more reps earlier depending on Bradford's knee.

SK insured we had a punchers chance to win games this season by acquiring Bradford and Glennon, not doing so would have been criminal and grounds for not only being fired but beaten within an inch of his life.

Fans complained that SK didn't have the brass ones to get a QBOTF or trade up and yet he did both without giving up critical draft capital. He was able to do that because he signed Bradford and Glennon and could tell the Raiders take the 3rd and 5th rd picks or the deal is off because I already have a starting QB.

IMO signing Bradford and Glennon served two purposes:

1) Insuring we could compete this year and if the planets align maybe getting our next Warner/Palmer

2) Giving us the flexibility and swagger in the draft to grab our QBOTF if things fell our way

Rosen has plenty of time to learn the right way instead of being thrown to the wolves behind a very suspect Oline.

 

[Veer]

The sooner Rosen starts, the better. Odds are Bradford won't last long anyway. Rosen is the most pro-ready QB in the last 3 or so draft classes. Bradford was a nice insurance to have. If Rosen is ready to start, you play him. And my money is on him being ready because he's super smart. We have no time to waste.

 

[cardncubfan]

Bradford is going to surprise a lot of people on here. Mainly his doubters.

 

[Cardiac]

The sooner Rosen starts, the better. Odds are Bradford won't last long anyway. Rosen is the most pro-ready QB in the last 3 or so draft classes. Bradford was a nice insurance to have. If Rosen is ready to start, you play him. And my money is on him being ready because he's super smart. We have no time to waste.

If Rosen plays before the Oline gels and proves itself to be at least decent then we waste this entire year with Rosen on IR. Rosen very well may be the most pro-ready QB in the past 3 drafts but that doesn't mean his is actually truly fully NFL ready.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bradford is going to surprise a lot of people on here. Mainly his doubters.

Ill give you this dude... no one could ever accuse you of pessimism with anything Cards related.

 

[Passepartout]

Think Sam will start week 1. But if he goes down may have to go with Glennon unless Josh puts up great numbers in the preseason.

 

[Stout]

Ill give you this dude... no one could ever accuse you of pessimism with anything Cards related.

Seriously. Anybody looking at Bradford's career and predicting with certainty he's going to be good are homers.

 

[gmabel830]

Seriously. Anybody looking at Bradford's career and predicting with certainty he's going to be good are homers.

The only thing you can predict with certainty related to Bradford is that he will be injured. [emoji16]

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[MrYeahBut]

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Josh Rosen, Arizona Cardinals

When he should be inserted into the lineup: When Sam Bradford gets hurt. Many observers regarded Rosen as the most pro-ready quarterback in this draft class by virtue of playing in a West Coast scheme under Jim Mora Jr. at UCLA. The concerns about Rosen are more about his arm strength and intangibles, problems that aren't going to be fixed if Rosen sits on the sideline.

The Cardinals already have committed a minimum of $15 million to Bradford, a figure that will likely rise to $20 million unless Arizona trades him before or during the season. If a team offers a first-round pick for Bradford, as was the case with the Vikings before the 2016 season, the Cards would be smart to give that serious consideration. The chances of that happening, though, are relatively slim.

Given Bradford's track record, everyone expects him to get injured at some point during the 2018 season. He has completed just three healthy seasons in his eight pro campaigns and has missed 37.5 percent of possible games since entering the league as the first overall pick. The simplest projection suggests that Bradford will suit up for 10 games in 2018. The first time he's hurt, though, the Cardinals should use the opportunity to replace him with the 10th overall pick.

When he will be inserted into the lineup: When Bradford gets hurt.This one seems pretty straightforward. Even if the Cardinals are competitive in a tough NFC West, Arizona is likely to turn things over to Rosen once Bradford is unable to play. The Cardinals also have Mike Glennon on the roster, but putting the former Bears starter into the lineup ahead of Rosen would be, as the UCLA product would put it, a mistake.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...arts-five-2018-nfl-draft-round-1-quarterbacks

 

[Snakester]

I think Bradford starts the season and if he stay's healthy will get a chance to play the first half of the season. Then I think it's up to Bradford's play. If the team has a winning record he keeps playing. If the team and Bradford are not playing well and have a losing record that's when I think we see Rosen. No matter what I wouldn't want Rosen to start the season. It normally takes half a season to implement a new offense and defense. Plus I want the O'line to have gelled before Rosen plays. Let all the kinks of the team get worked out first then if we want to put our rookie in at least everybody around him will know what they are doing and he will have a better chance of being successful.

 

[overseascardfan]

Bradford unless he gets injured in preseason. You want to give that OL time to gel and not put your future out there while they work out the kinks. If this OL ends up being terrible, hold out Rosen until you stabilize that unit.

 

[Garthshort]

Sam Bradford.

 

[Gandhi]

The sooner Rosen starts, the better. Odds are Bradford won't last long anyway. Rosen is the most pro-ready QB in the last 3 or so draft classes. Bradford was a nice insurance to have. If Rosen is ready to start, you play him. And my money is on him being ready because he's super smart. We have no time to waste.

I would agree that he will be ready to start. I honestly think he will know most of the playbook, if not all of it, when they begin camp, and I believe that Mike McCoy can throw a lot at him that you wouldn’t normally expect a rookie to comprehend. I think Cardiac makes a great point that it might be a good idea to wait until the offensive line becomes more of a unified unit, but on the other hand that could also cost Bradford another injury and thus forcing Rosen to play anyway, and even without a capable backup. No, I don’t believe in Glennon at all.

For what it’s worth, Bruce Arians often said that a rookie quarterback should play right away, because he wouldn’t learn enough by sitting behind a veteran. Other coaches obviously have other approaches, and I am not sure where I stand, but I do think Arians’ words carries a lot of weight. He does have experience from managing both Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck in their rookie years. You could argue that Rosen’s football IQ as a rookie are equal with those three, or at least not far behind.

I don’t really know what I feel myself. I really believe in Rosen, but I also think Bradford can be a very good quarterback when he is on his best. After the draft I predicted that Rosen would start in week one, but now I might be leaning slightly to start Bradford.

 

[BW52]

I think we all should wait and see how all the QBs play in preseason before rushing to judgement.All in all being equal IMHO Bradfords starts if healthy.The real battle could be for backup QB between Rosen/Glennon if Bradford is healthy.

 

[Stout]

I think Bradford starts the season and if he stay's healthy will get a chance to play the first half of the season. Then I think it's up to Bradford's play. If the team has a winning record he keeps playing. If the team and Bradford are not playing well and have a losing record that's when I think we see Rosen. No matter what I wouldn't want Rosen to start the season. It normally takes half a season to implement a new offense and defense. Plus I want the O'line to have gelled before Rosen plays. Let all the kinks of the team get worked out first then if we want to put our rookie in at least everybody around him will know what they are doing and he will have a better chance of being successful.

This is the perfect response to the QB situation this season. Note that Glennon doesn't even appear in it lol

 

[THESMEL]

Seriously. Anybody looking at Bradford's career and predicting with certainty he's going to be good are homers.

Yep homer - deal with it - but he is a very good qb and was pulled early last year without additional surgery - and that helped the knee and the cardinals - anybody that is certain that he will not stay upright and play at an elite level needs to apply for the cardinals doctor position- cause some act like they know everything about anything - any player can go down on any play -seen it - am sure about it- Warner playing with one arm, palmer comingback time and again with the same problem Sam has - I ain’t saying you ain’t right - just saying WE don’t know! Sam is really good and I thank him for being a Cardinal and support him.