Who would you draft right now?

Who would you draft right now at #13?

  • David DeCastro - OG - Stanford

    Votes: 22 42.3%
  • Jonathan Martin - OT - Stanford

    Votes: 14 26.9%
  • Mike Adams - OT - Ohio St

    Votes: 3 5.8%
  • Alshon Jeffrey - WR - South Carolina

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Kendall Wright - WR - Baylor

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Melvin Ingram - OLB/DE - South Carolina

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Courtney Upshaw - OLB/DE - Alabama

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • Nick Perry - OLB/DE - USC

    Votes: 4 7.7%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .

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Many thing will likely change after FA in regards to the Cardinals draft plans, but as of right now, who would you take with the #13 pick? I have determined 8 players who should be available when the Cardinals pick, fit needs, and could be considered BPA.

David DeCastro - OG - Stanford
-Arguably the best offensive linemen available, DeCatro is strong in all aspects of the game. He can hold at point of attack, is adept at both pulling outside on run plays as well as getting to the second level inside, and is very solid in pass protection. However, we have spent significant money in Daryn Colledge at LG and Rex Hadnot played well at RG. More than that, this is one of the best OG classes in recent history, and the Cardinals could use a later pick and still get a quality player to fill this need.

Jonathan Martin - OT - Stanford
-Martin was a solid OT in college who brings athleticism and solid tools to develop. There are questions about Martin's physicality to play OT, and if he can hold up against NFL pass rushers. Martin has not shown any off-field issues, and being a Stanford player, it can be assummed that he will not be overmatched with the metal aspects of the professional game. With the Cardinals deficiencies protecting the passer and a lack of talent at OT, you would have to expect Martin to start right away.

Mike Adams - OT - Ohio St.
-Adams is a physically gifted athlete who played at a big time program in Ohio St. He has a history of off-field issues, but comes with enough talent to gamble on those issues being resolved as he matures. Adams has the strength to hold up at point of attack in the NFL, but some question if he has the feet to play LT. The Cardinals have needs at both OT positions so they could move Adams to RT if he struggles at the LT position.

Alshon Jeffrey - WR - South Carolina
-Jeffrey is a physical specimen who excelled in college despite lacking a solid passing QB. Jeffrey has all of the tools be become a force at WR, but some question if he has the speed to seperate from the faster CBs in the NFL. Jeffrey comes with some risk as wide receivers sometimes struggle to transition to the NFL, but has enough talent to take a gamble on him in the first round. Jeffrey would bring a physical pressence to the Cardinals WR corp that they have lacked since Boldin was traded, and hopefully would draw coverage away from Fitzgerald to allow him to work deep gainst single coverage more.

Kendall Wright - WR - Baylor
-Wright is arguably the best deep threat in this draft at WR. He displays speed and route running ability to get seperation deep, and has shown the ability to make big plays in college. Wright comes with some risk, like most smaller college wide receivers, as it remains to be seen if he can physically beat press coverage in the NFL or if he will be relegated to the slot. Wright does offer the potential to create "splash" plays for the team that drafts him, and this potential definitely warrants first round consideration. Wright would give the Cardinals a deep threat opposite of Fitzgerald, and would allow Fitzgerald to work more of the complete route tree in any given situation. He would also be expected to hold safeties back, and prevent teams from loading up the box vs. the running game.

Melvin Ingram - OLB/DE - South Carolina
-Ingram was a productive college DE that was able to play various positions on defense. He is short (6'1"), but is stout enough (275) to hold against NFL OTs. There is a question about his ability to consistently play standing up in the 3-4, but Ingram has shown fluidity in LB drills and seems to be natural standing up. Ingram has also shown multiple pass rush moves which has allowed him to be successful getting after the QB. He does lack great speed, but most scouts feel that his quickness and strength are more than enough to make up for it. Ingram would bring size and versatility to the Cardinals defense as he could stand up in the base 3-4 at OLB, and is experienced enough to play DE in nickel packages as well.

Courtney Upshaw - OLB/DE - Alabama
-Upshaw was a vital member of a very good Alabama defense. Like Ingram he lacks height, but has the size to make up for it (6'1" 272). Upshaw uses his physicality to rush the QB, and seemed more effective rushing the passer from a 3 point stance than a 2 point stance at the Senior Bowl. Despite this, Upshaw played OLB in college, so there is less risk in his ability to transition to the position in the NFL. Like Ingram, Upshaw lacks top athleticism, but plays a very physical game. Upshaw would provide the Cardinals with an experienced OLB whose pass rush skills they could develop. He also offers the versatility to play DE in nickel packages.

Nick Perry - OLB/DE - USC
-Maybe the most athletic of the conversion players to go in the first round, Perry has rare burst and athleticism. He is a bit smaller than Upshaw and Ingram, but his quickness could make him an elite pass rusher in the NFL. Perry would have to adjust to playing OLB in the NFL as he played DE for USC under Monte Kiffen. However, he offers the potential as a pass rusher that should be worth the risk. Perry would provide the Cardinals with the premier athlete at OLB that they are lacking, and would be able to bring immediate pass rush skills while the Cardinals worked to develop him as a complete 3-4 OLBer.

There are of course other options, but I view these as the most likely options at this point in time. Vote away.
 
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Personally, while I love the idea of bringing in one of the edge rushers (I prefer Melvin Ingram) I think that it is time to start addressing the offensive line. Because of that need, I would add the best one available regardless of the position he plays on it. While both Martin and Adams seem like they could be good players at LT or RT, I think that DeCastro has the ability to be a Pro Bowler at RG which is what we really need. In the arguement of good vs great, I take the great.
 

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Agree that it needs to be OL and of the three listed DeCastro has the highest potential to be elite. In fact, of all listed he is the safest pick and probably still has the highest potential to reach elite status.
 

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You didn't list my choice:

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2012lkuechly.php

Luke Kuechly, ILB
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Kuechly looks like one of the safest picks in the 2012 NFL Draft. He should be able to play immediately in the NFL, and before long, he could be one of the better run-defending linebackers in the NFL. Kuechly has the ability to play in a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense.
 

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assuming that Levi is cut and moves on --

DeCastro is the better player, but Martin has to be the pick --

it stinks the FO has put itself in this position, AGAIN, but it seems there is no other choice
 

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assuming that Levi is cut and moves on --

DeCastro is the better player, but Martin has to be the pick --

it stinks the FO has put itself in this position, AGAIN, but it seems there is no other choice

I think we should re-sign Levi and move him back to RT.
 

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If we didn't have a glaring need the convientional list would be, IMO:

Kirkpatrick, CB
Upshaw, OLB
DeCastro, OG
Martin, OT

Why? Toler is on the last year of his contract. History dictates that the Cardinals will let both Jefferson, and Toler walk at the end of the year leaving a glaring need at CB. Thus Kirkpatrick, who would fit well in this system, is the best pick. It is a quasi-need pick, but he could be BPA at #13, unless 12 teams are dumb enough to pass on Claiborne.




Since the Cardinals ALWAYS have a need, the list is:

Martin, OT
Kirkpatrick, CB
Upshaw, OLB
DeCastro, OG

Why? Cause the Cardinals are frustratingly stupid at times, that is why.



If I were GM the list would be:

Hightower, ILB
Kirkpatrick, CB
Martin, OT
Upshaw, OLB
DeCastro, OG


Why Hightower ? Cause in the pass happy world of college, and NFL football ILB is becoming a rarity. 6'4" 260lbs are once in a decade, and ones that can also put their hand in the dirt and rush the passer are more rare than an "once a decade player" Hightower is not an every down ILB, but he is an every down player.
 

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I think we should re-sign Levi and move him back to RT.

Why?

Are we getting him at a discount ?

There are more talented RT's in free agency that will be had (speculating here) at much cheaper cost.

Levi Brown played RT for a couple years here in AZ, and I don't remeber him being much better at the position.
 

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Why?

Are we getting him at a discount ?

There are more talented RT's in free agency that will be had (speculating here) at much cheaper cost.

Levi Brown played RT for a couple years here in AZ, and I don't remeber him being much better at the position.

I think he was a pro bowl alternate one year at RT. Who are the more talented RTs in FA?
I'm not saying Brown is great but he's a decent RT.
 

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I think he was a pro bowl alternate one year at RT. Who are the more talented RTs in FA?
I'm not saying Brown is great but he's a decent RT.

I will throw out this list, knowing that it can be debated to death and back, and I will say again, we are talking about RT.:

Kareem McKenzie
King Dunlap
Jared Gaither
Khalif Barnes
Max Starks
Guy Whimper
 
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If we didn't have a glaring need the convientional list would be, IMO:

Kirkpatrick, CB
Upshaw, OLB
DeCastro, OG
Martin, OT

Why? Toler is on the last year of his contract. History dictates that the Cardinals will let both Jefferson, and Toler walk at the end of the year leaving a glaring need at CB. Thus Kirkpatrick, who would fit well in this system, is the best pick. It is a quasi-need pick, but he could be BPA at #13, unless 12 teams are dumb enough to pass on Claiborne.




Since the Cardinals ALWAYS have a need, the list is:

Martin, OT
Kirkpatrick, CB
Upshaw, OLB
DeCastro, OG

Why? Cause the Cardinals are frustratingly stupid at times, that is why.



If I were GM the list would be:

Hightower, ILB
Kirkpatrick, CB
Martin, OT
Upshaw, OLB
DeCastro, OG


Why Hightower ? Cause in the pass happy world of college, and NFL football ILB is becoming a rarity. 6'4" 260lbs are once in a decade, and ones that can also put their hand in the dirt and rush the passer are more rare than an "once a decade player" Hightower is not an every down ILB, but he is an every down player.

Hightower is interesting, and I could see him moving up if he shows some athleticism at the combine.

I also agree that if we were just looking at talent, both Kirkpatrick and Janoris Jenkins might be considered at #13, but in our current situation, it would be too much of a luxury pick.
 
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I will throw out this list, knowing that it can be debated to death and back, and I will say again, we are talking about RT.:

Kareem McKenzie
King Dunlap
Jared Gaither
Khalif Barnes
Max Starks
Guy Whimper

The Chargers might be cutting Marcus McNeill as well though he has health issues.
 
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I will throw out this list, knowing that it can be debated to death and back, and I will say again, we are talking about RT.:

Kareem McKenzie
King Dunlap
Jared Gaither
Khalif Barnes
Max Starks
Guy Whimper

Cincy also has a kid that has showed potential subbing at OT. I forget his name, but he could be an option as well.
 

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We are unfortunately desperate for an OT. If Martin is there its him else we probably will reach and go for Adams.
 

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We are unfortunately desperate for an OT. If Martin is there its him else we probably will reach and go for Adams.

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If that is the case, then re-sign Brown, and get the BPA.

Cause Levi Brown = Adams.

There were concerns about how good Adams really is, and he was owned at the Senior Bowl.
 

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It's still early (Let's see what the Combine tells us) but - going on my gut and if I had to make the decision right now and he was available -

DiCastro.
 
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:barf:

If that is the case, then re-sign Brown, and get the BPA.

Cause Levi Brown = Adams.

There were concerns about how good Adams really is, and he was owned at the Senior Bowl.

I heard differently in the practice reports, and did not watch the game. Despite this, the only way I consider Mike Adams is if we trade back. Other than that, my board goes DeCastro, Ingram, Upshaw, Perry, Martin.
 

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:barf:

If that is the case, then re-sign Brown, and get the BPA.

Cause Levi Brown = Adams.

There were concerns about how good Adams really is, and he was owned at the Senior Bowl.

???
He was dominating at the Senior Bowl practices and game. Here is an update from Scott Wright -Draft Countown.com.
Ohio St. OT Mike Adams looked like a stud, making pass protection look easy against some of this drafts best rushers. The knock on Adams is that he is inconsistent and doesn’t always play up to his considerable talent level, but this performance was a preview of what the guy is capable of at his best.
 

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Adams reminds me of LD and Levi. An awesome tackle with physical size yet with questions regarding footwork and lapses in game. So basically a bulldozer that is slow on his feet backwards and prone to false starts.
 

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Adams reminds me of LD and Levi. An awesome tackle with physical size yet with questions regarding footwork and lapses in game. So basically a bulldozer that is slow on his feet backwards and prone to false starts.

If this is the case we better trade up to get him.
 

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Adams reminds me of LD and Levi. An awesome tackle with physical size yet with questions regarding footwork and lapses in game. So basically a bulldozer that is slow on his feet backwards and prone to false starts.

Definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I'd like to think they won't reach for Adams @ #13.
 

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I picked Decausto because I believe Martin willbe gone when the we draft. Can see him opening holes for Beanie and Williams.
 
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