Why I would trade Boldin........

[spanky1]

Reason #1: Fitzgerald and Boldin are competing within the same space......ie, they are both slot receivers. Fitzgerald has better upside as a slot receiver than Boldin.......irrespective of the "Q's" performance last year.

Reason #2: Anquan is feeling that he's every bit as good as Fitz and should be signed to a contract as good as Larry's. Too much money for similar skills.

Reason #3: While both have their heads together, they will become divisive/overly competitive against each other "going forward".

Reason #4: Whether right or wrong.......Fitz is Green's guy.

Reason #5: Boldin has really good trade value right now. He could be traded to a team with a top 10 pick.

Reason #6: I'm of the mind that his knees will eventually come back to haunt us.

Reason #7: Really good WR's can be had at multiple times during the draft (ie Mark Clayton/TB; Keary Colbert/Panthers)

Reason #8: We have a chance to fix more important holes by trading him for a top 10 pick, and another top 10 pick would be really helpful in this years draft......cuz I think this is the last year that we will be drafting in the top 15 for awhile......make hay while the sun shines.

 

[azdad1978]

I guess I'm not in the category of trading Quan. Sorry Fitz is not a slot WR.

 

[Syracusecards]

Just wait. Navarre won't average 225 yards of offense next week and then Denny will put Boldin in and he'll be our "gunslinger" of the future....

 

[Russ Smith]

Reason #1: Fitzgerald and Boldin are competing within the same space......ie, they are both slot receivers. Fitzgerald has better upside as a slot receiver than Boldin.......irrespective of the "Q's" performance last year.

Reason #2: Anquan is feeling that he's every bit as good as Fitz and should be signed to a contract as good as Larry's. Too much money for similar skills.

Reason #3: While both have their heads together, they will become divisive/overly competitive against each other "going forward".

Reason #4: Whether right or wrong.......Fitz is Green's guy.

Reason #5: Boldin has really good trade value right now. He could be traded to a team with a top 10 pick.

Reason #6: I'm of the mind that his knees will eventually come back to haunt us.

Reason #7: Really good WR's can be had at multiple times during the draft (ie Mark Clayton/TB; Keary Colbert/Panthers)

Reason #8: We have a chance to fix more important holes by trading him for a top 10 pick, and another top 10 pick would be really helpful in this years draft......cuz I think this is the last year that we will be drafting in the top 15 for awhile......make hay while the sun shines.

1) Fitzgerald can also play another WR position, for all that money he OUGHT to be able to.

2) See #1, Quan can do things Fitz can't, if healthy I'm not sure Fitz can do things Quan can't.

3) Could not will, for all we know they're best friends. Certainly could happen.

4) True. He's his godson.

5) Sorry had to pick myself up off the floor on that one, trade a guy coming off knee surgery for a top 10 pick? or did you mean packaged with other picks? Nobody is trading a top 10 pick for Quan right now, especially unless they have his contract negotiated before the trade.

6) Eventually sure, his knees will slow him down. and when they do, he'll renegotiate or be cut, that's how the NFL works.

7) Which is precisely why it was insane to use the #3 overall pick on a WR in a WR heavy draft.

8) From this I gather you really think we can get a top 10 pick for Quan, if true you have a point, I just don't think it's true.

I have predicted it could happen and the hiring of Rosenhaus makes it FAR more likely than it was before. But it would be a PR nightmare for the Cards and Green and it would divide the team and make Fitz a pariah(sorry Pariah) if handled incorrectly.

The last Cardinal player I liked as much as Quan was Terry Metcalf, I NEVER forgave Bidwill for letting him go to Canada.

 

[Gee!]

someone please ban spanky

 

[imaCafan]

Unless we got, say, Payton Manning or LaDanian Tomlinson, I say NO WAY TRADE THE Q!!!!!!

 

[ajcardfan]

The cold, hard truth is we would not get more than a second rounder for Q this offseason. IMO. That's why I would hope both Q and Fitz could truly get healthy this offseason. Then we could really see what we have in them as a duo next season. I don't think we're seeing (or will see, even if lightning strikes and Navarre is amazing) what they could truly do together.

There's no rush on Boldin. He has two years left on his deal. There is no reason to panic and trade him or renegotiate his deal this year.

 

[Fiasco]

In the good old days, they burned people at the stake for heresy.

 

[Jetstream Green]

What?

A WR like Boldin does not come around often at all. A WR like Fitz does not come around often either. Boldin is not by any stretch of the imagination upset with Fitz being on the team. It can be understood about the money situation but the Cards still have Boldin under contract and he is going no where for a while. If you asked Boldin what upsets him right now he would say the lack of a capable QB and losing. If you asked the Cardinal staff they would say the same. For this franchise in comparison, letting Boldin go would be like the Niner's letting Rice go in his prime. A lot of players with his injury probably would not have come back this year but Quan did and I'm sure the coaches know this and Graves is far from seeing him leave this team.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Sorry

I respect your opinion but the very idea of trading Boldin gets me sick to the stomach and I must post that this is the worst thread I ever read. Without the Quan, Green probably wouldn't have even taken this job. That man alone carried us fans through all the crap of last year single handed. I can't even put a price on what that guy means to me as a Cardinal fan... top ten pick, second round pick...PLEASE!

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Fitzgerald is def not a slot rec. Fitzgerald runs good routes and has great body control on jump balls. Therefore you put your best route runner at split end and he demands a CB, leaving a S, LB, or Nickle on our slot rec. in Green's system.

 

[Tangodnzr]

A WR like Boldin does not come around often at all. A WR like Fitz does not come around often either. Boldin is not by any stretch of the imagination upset with Fitz being on the team. It can be understood about the money situation but the Cards still have Boldin under contract and he is going no where for a while. If you asked Boldin what upsets him right now he would say the lack of a capable QB and losing. If you asked the Cardinal staff they would say the same. For this franchise in comparison, letting Boldin go would be like the Niner's letting Rice go in his prime. A lot of players with his injury probably would not have come back this year but Quan did and I'm sure the coaches know this and Graves is far from seeing him leave this team.

How do you know this?

Everything else I agree with, but this appears to me more like only what YOU think he would say.

 

[red desert]

The last Cardinal player I liked as much as Quan was Terry Metcalf, I NEVER forgave Bidwill for letting him go to Canada.

I just about cried when that happened. Actually, now that I think about it, I did cry.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Fitzgerald is def not a slot rec. Fitzgerald runs good routes and has great body control on jump balls. Therefore you put your best route runner at split end and he demands a CB, leaving a S, LB, or Nickle on our slot rec. in Green's system.

In reviewing Sunday's game (only 1st half and last 3 min so far) I see that often the route patterns are to send the split end more often to the side lines and the slot either hitches, runs a deeper route more in the area of the hashmarks, or crosses the middle.

I would think Fitz is the better for running the sideline routes where he can elevate up and get those sideline tosses over the defending CB.

Yes he can go over the middle, but there, I think I would normally give the nod to Quan.

I think they either need to mix up the patterns a little more or actually switch who is the slot receiver.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Why?

I say this out of the fact the only thing unhappy that has ever actually come out of Boldin's mouth was that he was upset about was losing and not being their for the team because he was injured. Never heard an incident- verbal or action to suggest Boldin is upset with Fitz. Actually it is just the opposite to prove my point...give me evidence where it is otherwise that he has a problem with Fitz being on the team? Boldin has an agent, the agent wants more money because that is his job but Boldin hasn't said a word to suggest he is against playing with Fitz. or the contract thing is over riding his play on the field. My point is made from facts I know of, to say otherwise is more fictional unless you have proof otherwise.

 

[Tangodnzr]

I say this out of the fact the only thing unhappy that has ever actually come out of Boldin's mouth was that he was upset about was losing and not being their for the team because he was injured. Never heard an incident- verbal or action to suggest Boldin is upset with Fitz. Actually it is just the opposite to prove my point...give me evidence where it is otherwise that he has a problem with Fitz being on the team? Boldin has an agent, the agent wants more money because that is his job but Boldin hasn't said a word to suggest he is against playing with Fitz. or the contract thing is over riding his play on the field. My point is made from facts I know of, to say otherwise is more fictional unless you have proof otherwise.

OK, this I'll buy, but not your previous comment as to the previous claim that he and the staff would also say "lack of a capable QB".
I would hope anyone in the organization would be unhappy with losing.

I've never once, myself, ever made any kind of comment about Quan and Fitz not getting along. In fact I think once I mentioned how so far they seem to have a pretty good comraderie, and that I hope it stays that way.
This is a case where I think the completition between the two can spur each to be better. I've seen it happen more than a few times before.

It's just that YOU were the one that seemed to go a little fictional with the previous comments I highlighted. Other than that I really don't disagree with anything you've posted.

 

[Russ Smith]

I say this out of the fact the only thing unhappy that has ever actually come out of Boldin's mouth was that he was upset about was losing and not being their for the team because he was injured. Never heard an incident- verbal or action to suggest Boldin is upset with Fitz. Actually it is just the opposite to prove my point...give me evidence where it is otherwise that he has a problem with Fitz being on the team? Boldin has an agent, the agent wants more money because that is his job but Boldin hasn't said a word to suggest he is against playing with Fitz. or the contract thing is over riding his play on the field. My point is made from facts I know of, to say otherwise is more fictional unless you have proof otherwise.

Man I wish I could retract my "prediction".

This all started because I said ever since we hired Green and Quan hired Rosenhaus I've had this "fear" that we could end up like Denver with Portis.

Yesterday I rattled off a small list of players with Florida ties who fired their agent, hired Rosenhaus, and wound up on different teams. Among them, Portis, Ogunleye and kearse.

Quan has had I think 3 or 4 agents since he left FSU, I think he changed agents after the draft before signing. So it COULD be he's just looking for the right agent and Rosenhaus was another guy he tried.

But remember the timing, the Cards were quite public, we want to extend his deal, we're talking with him and his agent soon to work on this, and IIRC during that timeframe, Quan changed agents. The Cards supposedly went back to Quan and discovered he'd changed agents because they called the old agent and were told he no longer represented Quan.

My guess would be the first round of talks weren't what QUan was thinking he was worth, he did some agent "shopping" and hired the guy teams hate but players love, Rosenhaus.

My entire prediction was based on the idea that IF Rosenhaus was hired to be a pitbull because Quan is too nice a guy to do that, he and Green will butt heads, the Cards COULD side with Green, and if they do, Green may ultimately force a trade saying Quan is asking too much.

In no way do I think Quan will ask for the trade or force it like Portis did, but I do think his agent, if he's smart, will use Fitz in the negotiations to try and get more money and if he has to make a choice, Green will side with fitz, and the Cards hopefully will then tell him don't worry, we'll pay Quan too.

Best case scenario Quan plays out his contract with no issues, but you don't hire Rosenhaus if that's your intention.

 

[phillycard]

In the good old days, they burned people at the stake for heresy.

LOL!!!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The topic of this thread is blasphempous.

Trade Boldin? You related to the Bidwills?

Madness. Utter Madness.

WHY? Why trade the best player we got?

And for who? Manning? Tomlinson? those MIGHT be a fair trade.

Peace

 

[Toro]

The topic of this thread is blasphempous.

Trade Boldin? You related to the Bidwells?

Madness. Utter Madness.

WHY? Why trade the best player we got?

And for who? Manning? Tomlinson? those MIGHT be a fair trade.

Peace

I am a Cards diehard but so many Cards fan are unrealistic with what Boldin is worth. Manning or Tomlinson is fair trade value??? That is stupid. Boldin is not even a top 5 WR.

Put the kool aid down and be real.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I am a Cards diehard but so many Cards fan are unrealistic with what Boldin is worth. Manning or Tomlinson is fair trade value??? That is stupid. Boldin is not even a top 5 WR.

Put the kool aid down and be real.

Plus he is my favorite player.

And don't forget I said MIGHT either...just making this clear so when a year from now when Q is lighting up the NFL you can see how right I was.

Quan has unlimited potential, and is already proved to have Pro Bowl skills. HOW MUCH BETTER YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BE?

 

[CardinalLaw]

Well he has only been in 3 or 4 games, but the Q has gotten 280 yards. Fitz has 570 in 11, so hes catching up pretty fast. I think Q will be alright just because he hasn't had a 200 yard 2 t.d. game people seams down on him. We have like 28 million in cap room why we don't have money for both is beyond me. I predict a 100+ yard game from the Q this week just you watch!

 

[conraddobler]

Man I wish I could retract my "prediction".

This all started because I said ever since we hired Green and Quan hired Rosenhaus I've had this "fear" that we could end up like Denver with Portis.

Yesterday I rattled off a small list of players with Florida ties who fired their agent, hired Rosenhaus, and wound up on different teams. Among them, Portis, Ogunleye and kearse.

Quan has had I think 3 or 4 agents since he left FSU, I think he changed agents after the draft before signing. So it COULD be he's just looking for the right agent and Rosenhaus was another guy he tried.

But remember the timing, the Cards were quite public, we want to extend his deal, we're talking with him and his agent soon to work on this, and IIRC during that timeframe, Quan changed agents. The Cards supposedly went back to Quan and discovered he'd changed agents because they called the old agent and were told he no longer represented Quan.

My guess would be the first round of talks weren't what QUan was thinking he was worth, he did some agent "shopping" and hired the guy teams hate but players love, Rosenhaus.

My entire prediction was based on the idea that IF Rosenhaus was hired to be a pitbull because Quan is too nice a guy to do that, he and Green will butt heads, the Cards COULD side with Green, and if they do, Green may ultimately force a trade saying Quan is asking too much.

In no way do I think Quan will ask for the trade or force it like Portis did, but I do think his agent, if he's smart, will use Fitz in the negotiations to try and get more money and if he has to make a choice, Green will side with fitz, and the Cards hopefully will then tell him don't worry, we'll pay Quan too.

Best case scenario Quan plays out his contract with no issues, but you don't hire Rosenhaus if that's your intention.

You simply spoke the truth and true to form out came the torches and pitchforks.

It was a lot like this in the dark ages.

The earth is round I say hear ye hear ye...... Th earth is ROUND!!!

murmur murmur murmur... puzzled looks..... murmur murmur...

Anyone got a rope? Large stones? ahhhhh a torch, good! Burn him

Burn HIM!!!!

 

[blindseyed]

I met Quan and Fitz at the Suns game last night, they were all buddy buddy, they looked like they went to the game together. Fitz was awesome, Q seemed alittle into himself but who knows. I don't think there is any "competition" between the 2

 

[Toro]

I met Quan and Fitz at the Suns game last night, they were all buddy buddy, they looked like they went to the game together. Fitz was awesome, Q seemed alittle into himself but who knows. I don't think there is any "competition" between the 2

Were you in the Platnium Club?