Why I would trade Boldin........

[RugbyMuffin]

At the time, it made some sense to me....obviously that time has passed.

Agreed.

Why is this thread up here from 2004 ?

 

[Shane]

Agreed.

Why is this thread up here from 2004 ?

Because its

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I may get blasted for this, but as good as he is, I would trade him for a top 3 pick in next years draft.

That gives us the ability to draft either Bush/Leinart/Furguson with the first pick, and another stud at about the 7-11 level.

 

[Shane]

I may get blasted for this, but as good as he is, I would trade him for a top 3 pick in next years draft.

That gives us the ability to draft either Bush/Leinart/Furguson with the first pick, and another stud at about the 7-11 level.

Who could both bust.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I may get blasted for this, but as good as he is, I would trade him for a top 3 pick in next years draft.

That gives us the ability to draft either Bush/Leinart/Furguson with the first pick, and another stud at about the 7-11 level.

And which top 3 pick is better than Anquan Boldin?

Reggie Bush is a great COLLEGE player. This is the N F L

 

[joeshmo]

I may get blasted for this, but as good as he is, I would trade him for a top 3 pick in next years draft.

That gives us the ability to draft either Bush/Leinart/Furguson with the first pick, and another stud at about the 7-11 level.

Darn right you would get blasted.

Lets trade a proven great player for one who hasnt done a thing in the NFL who we would have to paya 20 mill bonus to. Yeah great idea.

 

[vince56]

I may get blasted for this, but as good as he is, I would trade him for a top 3 pick in next years draft.

That gives us the ability to draft either Bush/Leinart/Furguson with the first pick, and another stud at about the 7-11 level.

What makes Bush better than Boldin? Seriously. Back this up.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Ok. Signing bonuses aside, (because having 2 top 10 picks in the same draft is nearly impossible to sign them both) I would be hard pressed to make the trade.

You know sometimes you get a hunch with some players. Bush would be one of them. He may not do anything in the NFL, but he may turn into one of the best backs in history. Drafting Bush will put butts in the seats, better than any other player has been able to for the Cards.

As much as I love Boldin, hell he alone made me $25 on the game last night. A player like Bush has the ability to change the entire franchise around. Boldin's even record numbers have done little to change the fortunes of this franchise. The bottom line is winning. That is what I am looking for.

I know for sure that I wouldn't have been blasted as hard if he would have made his 2nd Godlike TD of the year. That's ok. I expected it.

It reminds me of when San Diego traded Michael Vick for what came to be LT and Drew Brees? Who won in that situation? You could argue either one, or both, but both teams were basically in a rut until the both made a major change. Trading Boldin, as much as I hate to do it, could finally change our fortunes.

 

[CardLogic]

I may get blasted for this, but as good as he is, I would trade him for a top 3 pick in next years draft.

That gives us the ability to draft either Bush/Leinart/Furguson with the first pick, and another stud at about the 7-11 level.

Where's that "BLASTED" smilie???

Guess I have to use this:

 

[Shane]

Ok. Signing bonuses aside, (because having 2 top 10 picks in the same draft is nearly impossible to sign them both) I would be hard pressed to make the trade.

You know sometimes you get a hunch with some players. Bush would be one of them. He may not do anything in the NFL, but he may turn into one of the best backs in history. Drafting Bush will put butts in the seats, better than any other player has been able to for the Cards.

As much as I love Boldin, hell he alone made me $25 on the game last night. A player like Bush has the ability to change the entire franchise around. Boldin's even record numbers have done little to change the fortunes of this franchise. The bottom line is winning. That is what I am looking for.

I know for sure that I wouldn't have been blasted as hard if he would have made his 2nd Godlike TD of the year. That's ok. I expected it.

It reminds me of when San Diego traded Michael Vick for what came to be LT and Drew Brees? Who won in that situation? You could argue either one, or both, but both teams were basically in a rut until the both made a major change. Trading Boldin, as much as I hate to do it, could do it.

I dont see BUsh selling anymore tickets than Boldin all by himself. How does his arrival guarantee wins in anyway? Do you remember Sanders in Detroit? Or Faulk in Indy?

 

[NEZCardsfan]

Boldin SHOULD be putting butts in the seats. He is electrifying. He is a class act.......and now that they are using him in the backfield......he is doing some of the very same things Bush may or may not be able to do at the next level.

Yea Boldin
Nay Bush

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I dont see BUsh selling anymore tickets than Boldin all by himself. How does his arrival guarantee wins in anyway? Do you remember Sanders in Detroit? Or Faulk in Indy?

You are ABSOLUTELY right. I remember first round exits in Detroit with Sanders, something us fans would only dream of.

I remember Super Bowl wins with Faulk in St. Louis.

I cant see anyone in their right mind wanting Boldin over Sanders. I would also take Faulk over Boldin, but at least that one is debatable.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Boldin SHOULD be putting butts in the seats. He is electrifying. He is a class act.......and now that they are using him in the backfield......he is doing some of the very same things Bush may or may not be able to do at the next level.

Yea Boldin
Nay Bush

Right again. Boldin should be putting butts in the seats. He is not. It is not really his fault though.

All along I have never doubted how good of a player Boldin is. I think he is amazing. I have followed his career and watched him in Florida State and knew that he was special.

I do love playing the wrong side in this devils advocate though. It makes for much more interesting talk.

 

[CardinalLaw]

I dont see BUsh selling anymore tickets than Boldin all by himself. How does his arrival guarantee wins in anyway? Do you remember Sanders in Detroit? Or Faulk in Indy?

I think it give us a huge boost in the Southern Cal market. But, lets not get ahead of ourselves, there is no way in hell we get him. Either Texans will, or if they want Leinhart they will trade picks with the Packers.

 

[gamebird98]

Reason #1: Fitzgerald and Boldin are competing within the same space......ie, they are both slot receivers. Fitzgerald has better upside as a slot receiver than Boldin.......irrespective of the "Q's" performance last year.

Reason #2: Anquan is feeling that he's every bit as good as Fitz and should be signed to a contract as good as Larry's. Too much money for similar skills.

Reason #3: While both have their heads together, they will become divisive/overly competitive against each other "going forward".

Reason #4: Whether right or wrong.......Fitz is Green's guy.

Reason #5: Boldin has really good trade value right now. He could be traded to a team with a top 10 pick.

Reason #6: I'm of the mind that his knees will eventually come back to haunt us.

Reason #7: Really good WR's can be had at multiple times during the draft (ie Mark Clayton/TB; Keary Colbert/Panthers)

Reason #8: We have a chance to fix more important holes by trading him for a top 10 pick, and another top 10 pick would be really helpful in this years draft......cuz I think this is the last year that we will be drafting in the top 15 for awhile......make hay while the sun shines.

WOW.....

 

[spanky1]

WOW.....

Once again.....I posted this in 01/04 when we did not have a clear idea as to how Boldin would respond to his MCL. That is DARN NEAR two years ago.

 

[Pariah]

Once again.....I posted this in 01/04 when we did not have a clear idea as to how Boldin would respond to his MCL. That is DARN NEAR two years ago.

Point taken, but it was barely over a year ago.

 

[Ryanwb]

Once again.....I posted this in 01/04 when we did not have a clear idea as to how Boldin would respond to his MCL. That is DARN NEAR two years ago.

LMAO!!

 

[Shane]

Once again.....I posted this in 01/04 when we did not have a clear idea as to how Boldin would respond to his MCL. That is DARN NEAR two years ago.

And he didnt have an MCL injury he had a relatively minor tear of his meniscus which is nowhere near the same as an MCL.

 

[azdad1978]

Wow this thread brings back negative memories!

 

[BACH]

7) Which is precisely why it was insane to use the #3 overall pick on a WR in a WR heavy draft.

Not to pick on you, Russ, but I just hate 20/20 draft comments like this one.

You don't draft for need that high in the draft. You go for best available player. G&G obviously didn't like Roethlisberger that much (as a lot of other teams, since he slided to #11), so the real choice at #3 was between Fitz, Taylor and Winslow.

Do you still think Fitz was the wrong choice?

The same goes for the Davis draft. Sure, Seymore and LT would have been nice, BUT the top three players rated after Vick was Big, Warren and Justin Smith.

 

[vince56]

Once again.....I posted this in 01/04 when we did not have a clear idea as to how Boldin would respond to his MCL. That is DARN NEAR two years ago.

You posted this 12/01/04, not 01/04. One year and one day ago, not two.

 

[Pariah]

Not to pick on you, Russ, but I just hate 20/20 draft comments like this one.

You don't draft for need that high in the draft. You go for best available player. G&G obviously didn't like Roethlisberger that much (as a lot of other teams, since he slided to #11), so the real choice at #3 was between Fitz, Taylor and Winslow.

Do you still think Fitz was the wrong choice?

It's NOT hindsight (I assume that's what you mean by 20/20) when SO many people were clammoring for Roethlisberger. Big Ben slipped to #11, and that was a surprise. He most certainly was in the mix for the #3 pick overall.

 

[AzWins23]

Reason #1: Fitzgerald and Boldin are competing within the same space......ie, they are both slot receivers. Fitzgerald has better upside as a slot receiver than Boldin.......irrespective of the "Q's" performance last year.

Reason #2: Anquan is feeling that he's every bit as good as Fitz and should be signed to a contract as good as Larry's. Too much money for similar skills.

Reason #3: While both have their heads together, they will become divisive/overly competitive against each other "going forward".

Reason #4: Whether right or wrong.......Fitz is Green's guy.

Reason #5: Boldin has really good trade value right now. He could be traded to a team with a top 10 pick.

Reason #6: I'm of the mind that his knees will eventually come back to haunt us.

Reason #7: Really good WR's can be had at multiple times during the draft (ie Mark Clayton/TB; Keary Colbert/Panthers)

Reason #8: We have a chance to fix more important holes by trading him for a top 10 pick, and another top 10 pick would be really helpful in this years draft......cuz I think this is the last year that we will be drafting in the top 15 for awhile......make hay while the sun shines.

STUPID!!!!

 

[Diamondback Jay]

You know sometimes you get a hunch with some players.

KiJana Carter.. Ryan Leaf.. Rick Mirer.. Heath Shuler.. Tony Mandarich..



What do they all have in common?? They were all players that many had a hunch would turn the NFL on it's ear.. All of them fell flat on their faces, for one reason or another.

Point is, although many have the same hunch of Bush that you do (present company included), no way do I trade one of the keys to this team's offense to move up to get him. We KNOW what Boldin brings to the table. With Bush, who's to say he's not the next KiJana Carter? Anyone else, besides Boldin, Fitzgerald, Dansby and Rolle I'd be alright with trading. However, Boldin.. no.

Bush would be one of them. He may not do anything in the NFL, but he may turn into one of the best backs in history. Drafting Bush will put butts in the seats, better than any other player has been able to for the Cards.

Perhaps, but what about when the Honeymoon period ends? New Stadium, Flashy new players... New Coaches.. What's going to win is staying pat with the playmakers they have, filling in the blanks at positions of need and maintaining the growth. Giving up Boldin sets them back. It really does.. I like McCoy, consider him a good guy and a friend, but do you feel confident going in to next season with he or Bryant Johnson as the #2 receiver? Maybe in a few years (for McCoy) but not now.

As much as I love Boldin, hell he alone made me $25 on the game last night. A player like Bush has the ability to change the entire franchise around. Boldin's even record numbers have done little to change the fortunes of this franchise. The bottom line is winning. That is what I am looking for.

See above.

It reminds me of when San Diego traded Michael Vick for what came to be LT and Drew Brees? Who won in that situation? You could argue either one, or both, but both teams were basically in a rut until the both made a major change. Trading Boldin, as much as I hate to do it, could finally change our fortunes.

Good point, but the difference here is the Falcons and Chargers didn't trade proven players, who are already established as top of the rung at their respective positions. They traded draft picks (and a few players who were basically solid, but nothing of All Pro value like Boldin is).