Snake said:
KiJana Carter.. Ryan Leaf.. Rick Mirer.. Heath Shuler.. Tony Mandarich..
What do they all have in common?? They were all players that many had a hunch would turn the NFL on it's ear.. All of them fell flat on their faces, for one reason or another.
See Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, LT, Vick, Palmer, I could go on and on as well about players that came in and turned franchises around. Drafting is all about taking a hunch and playing it. Sometimes you have to get lucky, and sometimes you have to have the balls to gamble. You usually do not have to trade All Pro players to gamble with, but you usually do not see players like Bush coming out every year.
Point is, although many have the same hunch of Bush that you do (present company included), no way do I trade one of the keys to this team's offense to move up to get him.
This is one place where we differ. NO ONE on this team is untradeable IMO. If the right deal comes around, I will trade anyone on this roster for Peyton Manning, Michael Vick, etc. I know that we have a nice core to build around, but our team is not good enough yet to secure anyone's job if the price is right IMHO.
We KNOW what Boldin brings to the table. With Bush, who's to say he's not the next KiJana Carter?
ME x 1000, as well as every expert that has watched him play, or written a review of him thinks the same. KiJana Carter he will not be, you can quote me on that!
Anyone else, besides Boldin, Fitzgerald, Dansby and Rolle I'd be alright with trading. However, Boldin.. no.
See above
Perhaps, but what about when the Honeymoon period ends? New Stadium, Flashy new players... New Coaches.. What's going to win is staying pat with the playmakers they have, filling in the blanks at positions of need and maintaining the growth. Giving up Boldin sets them back. It really does..
When the honeymood period ends, we may have 5000+ more season ticket holders than we did last year. I do not remember the figure, but Vick was said to bring in over 10,000 more season tickets holders. LeBron James brought in 6,000 tickets (hate to use basketball analogies here, there are other factors to bring in as well, local boy etc) Can you imagine what 5,000 extra fans would do to our home games? We would actually have a home game! That doesn't count the fact of the one game tickets he would be able to generate. I know that there is no way that I can guarantee 5,000 extra season tickets, but I do not see that number as a stretch at all.
You are right, I know that trading Boldin would not be good for the immediate future though, but about a year from now, what about 2 or even 5 years from now. Bush is as much of a sure thing that you will EVER see in an NFL draft. I would also trade Boldin for Leinart as well, but that trade IMO could be scrutinized much more, due to prior injuries and such. He is about as sure as they come as well. Let's face it. Eventhough the Card's future seems as bright as ever right now, we are still the Cards. They need to convince the few of us fans that they still have, and the league that we can win.
I like McCoy, consider him a good guy and a friend, but do you feel confident going in to next season with he or Bryant Johnson as the #2 receiver? Maybe in a few years (for McCoy) but not now.
Anyone that does not have butterfingers is more than adequate for a number 2 receiver besides Fitzgerald. We KNOW that Boldin can do that and more. I am confident that McCoy would do that, if thrust into that role.
Good point, but the difference here is the Falcons and Chargers didn't trade proven players, who are already established as top of the rung at their respective positions. They traded draft picks (and a few players who were basically solid, but nothing of All Pro value like Boldin is).
Of course you are right here. Mostly draft picks were traded. The Falcons didn't really have an All Pro value player on the roster before Vick that could have been traded. They have a couple more now though. I think that if they had a player like Boldin on that team at the time of the draft, they would have been willing to trade him. So would I.
Look, I am not saying that this would be an easy decision. In fact, it would be one of the biggest decisions in franchise history. My point is that you cannot be afraid to gamble, especially in this draft where you may have as many as 4 or 5 All Pro valued players and at more important positions (QB, RB, OT, MLB (although MLB is a more important position, there is not one of all pro caliber in this years draft that is more important that Boldin))when you already have an All Pro receiver on your roster.
